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Mofisto
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom585 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 14:01:15
February 11 2011 11:47 GMT
#1
20/04/11 - Several new guides added

Cheers to everyone who sent in the edited image. I appreciate it, looks much better now
INTRODUCTION

Well Starcraft has been out for a while now, and as such people have had time to think out various strategies; the strategy forum being tantamount to this.

However the strategy forum has one major problem. Far too many people theorycrafting and posting worthless tactics/strategies because "hey, it works for my mate jimmy, so it must be the greatest strategy ever". That is not to say that there aren't absolutely awe inspiring tactics posted, indeed there are. The problem is that these posts/threads get lost within the deluge of new threads that get posted every day.

The aim of this thread is to try to address this issue. Basically the idea is that links will be posted below, to any thread deemed by the community to be outstanding enough to be considered required reading.

Obviously this is a very big undertaking, and I doubt I will be able to to do this on my own, so I hope the TL community will help by coming up with suggestions of threads which need to be included. So please, please, please, help me dig out the gems.

Also, I only play Terran and Zerg, so I will need help with Protoss in particular.

Newly Added

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20/4/11

PvT 2 Gate Fast Obs FE
One of the safest pvt openings. Aim to get fast observer to enable you to react to your opponents initial build.

PvT Overview
General overview of this matchup

How to Get Better at SC2
Excellent guide to improving your play

ZvP Guide
Great thread going into lots of detail about how to deal with every aspect of this matchup

Worker Split Guide
Neat trick to maximise mining efficiency in the early game

10/4/11
12 Weeks With the Pro's
Series of videos. Excellent resource for all zergs

Basic timings
Common and important timings

Liquid'Tyler's Double Forge
Aim to get early +2 weapons and armour which, when coupled with guardian shield make gateway units extremely durable against bio units.

How To Improve
A must read for all SC players. Show you how to improve 1v1


GENERAL GUIDES


BEGINNER

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Unit Production Calculator
Figure out exactly the number of production buildings you can support on a particular number of bases

How to Play When You're Ahead or Behind
Guide showing how to judge whether you're ahead or behind, and how your decision making/actions should be determined by your situation.

How to Improve
This is a Broodwar PDF, but many of the sections, particularly removing false beliefs and skills, are applicable to SC2.

Analysing Replays
Explains how to go about analysing your own play. Great place if you have no idea where to start.

Macro Macro Macro
There's a reason the more experienced players have this mantra. Here's someone simply massing stalkers and a-moving to diamond.

Playing With Low APM
Guide to playing with low apm.

General Basic Guide
A guide to the most basic things. Great help understanding common SC terms; everything from APM to macro, along with certain settings newer players may not realise they should use eg. health bars.

(Wiki)Starcraft Definitions
List of all common SC phrases and words

Improving your SC2
Great thread filled with tonnes of information which could be useful to veterans and new players alike

Day 9 Daily Newbie Tuesday
Examine common mistakes between Bronze and Plat

Day 9 Newbie Tuesday
How to deal with midgame banelings

Day9 Newbie Tuesday
How to deal with collossi

Day9 Newbie Tuesday
Dealing with early pressure

Day9 Newbie Tuesday
Dealing with banshee harass

Day9 Newbie Tuesday
Drone Timing

Day9 Newbie Tuesday
How to deal with expanding players

Day9 Newbie Tuesday
How to gain an advantage by using drops

Day9 Newbie Tuesday
Refining mechanics with day9



ADVANCED

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Designing Build Orders
Walks you through the creation of a build order; how to refine; how to test etc.

In Depth Mining Analysis
Mining analysis to help you maximise your mineral returns

Formation Analysis
Analysis of formations, tactical maneuvers etc. Advantages and vulnerabilities of each

Griffith's Magic Box
Who said muta's were the only ones. Shows how to magic box your units.

Introduction to BOX style of play
Interesting tactic if you face the same opponents repeatedly

Build Order Timing Calculator
Plug details in, then gives you the optimal timing for a particular build. Generally speaking the the calculator will be faster than what you can achieve in game, but at least it gives you something to aim for.

Analysis of Macro
Mathcrafting at its finest. You want to see the effect of mules vs chronoboost on min income (amongst other things), then this is the thread for you.

Critical upgrade analysis
Shows which upgrades you should be getting depending on match up. An invaluable resource.

Common and Important timings
Want to know when stim push can hit your ramp? What about the earliest 4 gate can arrive? This thread goes through all the most common and important timing pushes, so you can know what to expect at a particular time

The Metagame
Zerg Legend's take on the metagame. An interesting read.

Comprehensive Ladder Analysis
The most up to date explanation of the BNET ladder system

Excalibur's Ladder Analysis
Explains the BNET ladder system in full detail

Excalibur's Ladder Analysis Part II
Delving even deeper into the maths behind the ladder

Excalibur's Division Analysis
Explanation of the division tiers

Strategy from the pros
A collection of posts made by pros on TL




RACE SPECIFIC GUIDES


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[image loading]General


The Real Cost of Units
Useful database showing per minute costs of all Terran units.

(Wiki)Terran Strategy

[image loading]TvX

6 Rax All In
Effective chedder against all races

2 Rax 3 Bunker FE
Fast expanding opener with intention of longer macro game

[image loading]TvT[image loading]


iEchoic's 2fact2Port
Brilliant strat which eschews the traditional Tank/Viking which dominates TVT, for a mix of air and hellions.

[image loading]TvP[image loading]


Bio into Mech
Non specific build order to allow 3 base mech transition

The Art of Mech
Excellent guide to mech play, along with solutions to common pure mech problems. ie. immobility

Synystyr's Anti Colossus
Another unconventional strat, which favors banshees, to rip through a colossi heavy protoss

StimmedProbe's Million Man Marine
MMM= Marine, Marine, Marine. FE allows for mass marine production. Be Constantly attacking your enemy

iEchoic's 1/1/2 Hellion Drop
Efficient build, focusing on gaining economic advantage through hellion drop harass

2 Thor Push
Effective against a whole range of protoss builds, however was weakened in most recent patch.

PF Rush
Plexa goes through the viability of this rush

[image loading]TvZ[image loading]


Griffith 4 OC
This build is incredible. Weak (ish) early game sets you up for an absolutely explosive mid game. The rate you gather mins has to be seen to be believed. Ive been using this in team games as well, and I seem to mine out both my main and nat before anybody has even mined their main.

Marine/Raven
Re-imagining of a brood war classic creates a potent SC2 strategy



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[image loading]General


ChronoBoost Math
The math behind chronoboost

(Wiki)Protoss Strategy

[image loading]PvP[image loading]


1 Gas 2 Gate Robo
Alternative to eco 4 gate; strong against many protoss openings

Motherships
Plexa goes through the viability of using motherships in this matchup

IMYongHwa's 3gate Robo
Twist on the robo opening, which aims to delay proxy pylons, in order to properly defend 4 gate


Adel's No Gas PvP
Delayed gas allows to expand safely against 4gate rush

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3 Gate Aggressive Expo
Build which lets you apply heavy pressure while expanding at the same time

Standard Play Part 2: 2 Gate Robo
Open with a 2 gate robo, secure expansion, with intention to fast tech to colossus

Fake 3 gate robo
Interesting strat which uses early hallucinated immortals to "pressure" opponent and try to force mistakes

Gnial's Stalker/Void ray
Early game strategy to gain advantage using stalkers and void rays


Immortal/sentry/Zealot

Plexa goes through the viability of this build against terran

KCDC's Fast Expand
For those of you struggling with this matchup. Stay one base ahead, and abuse mobility to subdue the enemy

[image loading]PvZ[image loading]


How to stop a 6 pool
Defending against 6 pool as protoss

Standard Play PT 1: 3 Gate Sentry Expand
Open with sentries to secure an expansion, then go into "shark mode", forcing zerg to build units, not drones.

Plexa's PvZ Overview
Weaker players may find more to learn than diamonds/masters, but an excellent analysis of PvZ nonetheless.

15 Nexus
Mainstream opening which allows you to transition into a variety of builds


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[image loading]General


(Wiki)Zerg Strategy


Playing Zerg in SC2

Great guide to Zerg mechanics and tactics

A Second Look at Zerg Openings
In-depth analysis of zerg openings. Differences in larva count, drone production etc examined

Improving As A Low Level Zerg
For zerg players wanting to improve in a macro centric way.


Macro Efficiency

Comprehensive guide to zerg macro efficiency

The Zerg Help Me Thread
This thread is long but is filled with gems.

[image loading]ZvX


Sheths Guide
Tips, advice and tricks for ZvP and ZvT


[image loading]ZvZ[image loading]


Speedling expand
Take early map control, and expand relatively safely with this build

12 weeks with the pros
ZvZ with StrifeCro

12 weeks with the pros
ZvZ with Sheth

12 weeks with the pros
ZvZ with Machine

[image loading]ZvP[image loading]


Upgrade Centric style
Comprehensive guide leading to a "baneling bomb" transition

The Art of ZvP
Excellent overview of this matchup. From dealing with DT rush, to reacting to cannon cheddar, this thread has it all.

Muta/Ling
Plexa analyzes this unit composition

Mass Baneling Carpet Bombing
Using a combination of overlords and banelings, rain acid death on your enemy

[image loading]ZvT[image loading]


Mr Bitter's ZvT Infestor Play
Skip muta's for quick infestors

No Queen Roach FE
By skipping the queen for an early warren, this build allows for early aggression whilst tricking your opponent into thinking you're going for an economic build.

Muta's vs Thors
Introduction to the magic box

The Art of ZvT
Similar to his other thread, this provides an overview of this matchup. How to deal with stim pushes, Planetary fortress's etc. Excellent resource

Cutesmallhydra's Ultalisk/bling
Effective Zerg strategy using the synergy between ultralisks and banelings to create a devastating late game combination


TEAM TACTICS

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An introduction to 2v2
A great overview of 2v2 team games

5 Warp gate 24 speedling rush
While I wouldn't call it unbeatable, but a very effective strategy nonetheless

Day9 Newbie Tuesday
Day9 takes us through 2v2 strategy


Highlighted Users
Dont argue with them, don't abuse them, don't flame them: they know what they're talking about


NEED FEEDBACK FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSIONS

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191771 - Stimpush expand
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191430 - 2 gate robo
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=172488 -zvz
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=150082 - Cattlebruiser rush
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194585- improving as a low level zerg
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188539 -protoss shield upgrades



EXAMPLE OF THREAD I WONT BE RECOMMENDING

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The Future of TvX
Epic build





This thread is a work in progress.

Oh and before I forget, I want to give a shout out to Chill, Grot and Taiche, who gave me the idea for the thread and its format, and hellsan361 for providing the banners.

Edit: Banners fixed. Cheers hellsan

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod changed the title. Bit embarrassing, but there you go.
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
nesohc
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden12 Posts
February 11 2011 12:29 GMT
#2
Really good threat imo!
Here is a lot of thread I've stored up during some times, you can pick and choose between which you feel. Also only play terran and zerg so those are the ones i got

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189301
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191745
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190896
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190292
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=170096
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176625
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176558
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171315
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
hotdog118
Profile Joined April 2010
United States4 Posts
February 11 2011 12:30 GMT
#3
your missing the [/ u] after protoss maybe?
telfire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 12:35:09
February 11 2011 12:34 GMT
#4
This thread is useful and needed, and you laid it out well (barring some unfinished tag issues that I'm sure you'll fix). You should definitely definitely link to MrBitter's stuff under Zerg.

I don't know if you want to link to them individually under respective matchups or just link his main thread as a single resource, either way all the urls are here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177791
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 14:06:59
February 11 2011 12:37 GMT
#5
Thanks for featuring my thread under the Terran guides :D I also have a few threads I can link to you...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=185963
TvX 2 Rax 3 Bunker Fast Expand Opener

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146518
iEchoic's TvP 1-1-2 Hellion Drop Build

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
Antisocialmunky's TvZ Marine/Raven Build

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=140629
Gnial's PvT Stalker-Void Ray Build

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141155
Antimage's PvZ Void Ray Expand Build

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191430
Kcdc's PvP 2 Gate Robo 1 Gas Opener

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142887
Kcdc's PvT 1 Gate FE Opener

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=159671
Anihc's PvZ 15 Nexus Guide

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187603
Kazansky's Critical Upgrade Analysis

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191702
LaLush's Analysis of Macro
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
Mofisto
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom585 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 12:54:28
February 11 2011 12:48 GMT
#6
On February 11 2011 21:30 hotdog118 wrote:
your missing the [/ u] after protoss maybe?


Thats what i thought when i saw it, but when i tried to edit i saw that the tag was correct. Its starting to annoy me as well because it looks so shit. Ive rewritten that part about 5 times, but it does the same thing every time. Apologies to everyone, but it will be sorted out once i figure out what wrong.

And cheers for the suggestions. Ill be editing the OP whenever I get a chance (ie. when my boss isnt on my back).

Keep them coming

edit: seems to have fixed itself, when i was writing this post. Either it was magic, or a mod fixed it. If it was a mod, cheers for your editing wizardry
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
MrArarat
Profile Joined September 2010
Argentina132 Posts
February 11 2011 13:12 GMT
#7
Excelent Thread!
TL is full of good resources.
Resting on the mountain side...
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
February 11 2011 13:16 GMT
#8
You should definitely add Plexa's PvZ overview:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167992
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
February 11 2011 13:26 GMT
#9
I see myself spamming this thread with links constantly >_>

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167992
Plexa's PvZ Overview

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190292
WZP's ZvP 3 Roach Speedling All-in

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190226
DiranMan's ZvP Ultralisk/Queen Deathball Guide

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191771
TvT Stim Timing Push Expand as discussed by Thromboyzt

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169602
TvP 2 Thor Push popularized by Janook

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187434
CuteSmallHydra's How-to-use Ultralisks in ZvT

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=173430
Jdseemoreglass' ZvX 11 Pool 18 Hatch Opening (Locked thread, but worth a look at)


Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
Mofisto
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom585 Posts
February 11 2011 15:36 GMT
#10
OP, has been updated with a few more guides. Will update more when I have a chance. In the mean time keep them coming
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
NacRuno
Profile Joined July 2010
44 Posts
February 11 2011 15:55 GMT
#11
This is a very good idea, thanks for starting it up. All the guides I had bookmarked are already posted but I have a suggestion. Put the game version the guide was written in next to its description in the initial post. I think this thread will be around for a long time and it is better to put the patch versions now rather than later.
Mofisto
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom585 Posts
February 11 2011 17:22 GMT
#12
On February 12 2011 00:55 NacRuno wrote:
This is a very good idea, thanks for starting it up. All the guides I had bookmarked are already posted but I have a suggestion. Put the game version the guide was written in next to its description in the initial post. I think this thread will be around for a long time and it is better to put the patch versions now rather than later.

Good idea pal. Will do this when i get the chance
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
February 11 2011 18:14 GMT
#13
looks prety good, but you do plan on adding more Text to everything right? And if you wanna go pro, try adding some pictures.
ponyo.848
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
February 11 2011 18:43 GMT
#14
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176706

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Adel's_No_Gas_PvP
Mofisto
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom585 Posts
February 11 2011 21:05 GMT
#15
On February 12 2011 03:14 Ponyo wrote:
looks prety good, but you do plan on adding more Text to everything right? And if you wanna go pro, try adding some pictures.


Yeah of course I'm going to be adding more text. Like I said it's a work in progress, and there will always be strategies to add as the game is patched or when the metagame changes.

I'm not too sure what pictures you want me to put up. All this thread is doing is linking to the best strategies and guides on TL, so that it's easier to find them
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
February 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#16
On February 12 2011 06:05 mofisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 03:14 Ponyo wrote:
looks prety good, but you do plan on adding more Text to everything right? And if you wanna go pro, try adding some pictures.


Yeah of course I'm going to be adding more text. Like I said it's a work in progress, and there will always be strategies to add as the game is patched or when the metagame changes.

I'm not too sure what pictures you want me to put up. All this thread is doing is linking to the best strategies and guides on TL, so that it's easier to find them


Your PvZ header is messed up.

And I think pictures is unnecessary. You're just linking to other threads, so pictures would just be a huge space clogger and doesn't really serve much of a purpose for something like this. You should place more of the threads I linked into the OP, they're all solid builds for the designated matchup.

A TvX, ZvX and PvX sub header would be cool too for the more generalized build openers.

....man I wish I thought of this a long time ago xD
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
Mofisto
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom585 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 00:40:49
February 12 2011 00:32 GMT
#17
Fixed now mate. If you spot any other errors let me know.

Dont worry, ill be adding the guides bit by bit.

And good idea for the TvX etc. Will add this soon
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
February 12 2011 01:07 GMT
#18
I'm pretty sure the iEchoic's 1/1/2 Hellion Drop is a TvP, not TvT.
Mofisto
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom585 Posts
February 12 2011 10:56 GMT
#19
On February 12 2011 10:07 HRSA wrote:
I'm pretty sure the iEchoic's 1/1/2 Hellion Drop is a TvP, not TvT.


Whoops, fixed now. Let me know if you spot any others mate
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
February 12 2011 11:15 GMT
#20
I really wouldn't recommend most guides for protoss or terran here. Unfortunately, most guides here are either people trying to put their name on a gimmicky build, outdated, or both. It's a much better idea for players to learn solid fundamentals through standard, common builds. With this in mind, here are the only Protoss threads that I would recommend currently:

PvZ:
Incontrol coaching: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182108

both PvZ and PvP:
4 gate: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177569

PvT:
incontrol coaching: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188418

Also I think players of every race needs to see MrBitter's stream and VODs. IMO they are more important/helpful than any other resource out there.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=164284
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177791
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
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