EPTIs this true? And if so, what is the list, from fastest to slowest, and how big is the difference?
Fighting Spirit mining rates
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
Is this true? And if so, what is the list, from fastest to slowest, and how big is the difference? | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
 List of Unit and Building SizesMeaning you will have to trial&error on each main for each race. Most likely not that big of a difference as compared to Hunter/BGH. All this is nitpicky as in the end its up to your skill rather than if you managed to boost some more minerals. | ||
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Soulforged
Latvia913 Posts
There's been some images around with efficiency %'s for each mineral patch on each spawn, but I can't seem to find them anymore. | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
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TT1
Canada9990 Posts
![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674795465040068648/1079561672966012928/luna_mining_rates.png) (these are all auto-mine stats, u have to mine the corners of the most forward patches tho, for example #1 on the right side is very slow here unless u manually return cargo it) the top formation is also pretty standard (sylphid, ascension is also similar), the bot formations are the ones that are different on a lot of maps | ||
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alpenrahm
Germany628 Posts
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26630164 (img in spoiler) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/6D2N2Yq.png) | ||
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TT1
Canada9990 Posts
there's also a way to see the FPS mining rate of each patch but i dunno how to do that, kors use it tho (credit goes to suricatta for that spreadsheet) | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
On June 06 2023 14:38 MeSaber wrote: @TT1 - Just because you have minerals on the same place doesnt mean it mines the same as thats decided by the pathing regions. https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26630164 (img in spoiler) Modern map makers strive to have good pathfinding in their resource areas, so I would say that this spreadsheet is accurate. If a monkey made a map (blizzard) then perhaps the spreadsheet would be inaccurate. | ||
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iopq
United States879 Posts
On June 06 2023 04:05 TT1 wrote: FS has outdated left side mins, here's the stats for the most common min patch formations, right side and left side are pretty standard on almost all the new maps now: (these are all auto-mine stats, u have to mine the corners of the most forward patches tho, for example #1 on the right side is very slow here unless u manually return cargo it) the top formation is also pretty standard (sylphid, ascension is also similar), the bot formations are the ones that are different on a lot of maps I was looking for this, haha So basically with Zerg on top right you would 1358, boost mining on 1, and then everything else, 6 the very last patch bottom left 1346, then at the end 5 and 7 what's the pattern for sylphid? | ||
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Freakling
Germany1526 Posts
On June 06 2023 04:05 TT1 wrote: FS has outdated left side mins, here's the stats for the most common min patch formations, right side and left side are pretty standard on almost all the new maps now: (these are all auto-mine stats, u have to mine the corners of the most forward patches tho, for example #1 on the right side is very slow here unless u manually return cargo it) the top formation is also pretty standard (sylphid, ascension is also similar), the bot formations are the ones that are different on a lot of maps I suspect that these stats are not for strictly on-grid placed formations but with some offset on at least the straight line bottom patches ;P | ||
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iopq
United States879 Posts
On June 28 2023 02:47 Freakling wrote: I suspect that these stats are not for strictly on-grid placed formations but with some offset on at least the straight line bottom patches ;P Can we get a "I have too much time on my hands" guide for where to send your workers at the start on every ladder map, position, race combo? | ||
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TT1
Canada9990 Posts
On June 29 2023 10:20 iopq wrote: Can we get a "I have too much time on my hands" guide for where to send your workers at the start on every ladder map, position, race combo? That chart covers pretty much all the standard modern day min formations, ignore the bottom formation (bot right pic). There still isn't a consensus on what the best formation for that base is yet, you'll see a lot of diff min formations for it. The top left pic is the standard top formation mins (think 12oclock on sylphid, 12 on ascension, this formation is mainly used on 3p maps or 4p maps that have a 12oclock spawn, so say 12/6/3/9). The top right pic is for right side mins on pretty much all maps with standard mins (think FS/Poly/Eclipse/Sylphid etc, literally every right side base on any type of map, be it 2p/3p/4p). The bot left pic is the new standard min formation for left side bases (Vermeer, Eclipse, Sylphid etc). Learning those 3 formations should pretty much cover all modern day maps. | ||
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iopq
United States879 Posts
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TT1
Canada9990 Posts
Sylphid 12 should be exactly the same, #6 on Sylphid top formation needs to be manually boosted like the #1 patch on right side mins ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456245193885220876/1124751518902522076/Untitled.png) | ||
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Freakling
Germany1526 Posts
On June 29 2023 10:20 iopq wrote: Can we get a "I have too much time on my hands" guide for where to send your workers at the start on every ladder map, position, race combo? Why are you asking me? "Too much time on my hands" does definitely not apply O_o | ||
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iopq
United States879 Posts
On July 02 2023 02:21 TT1 wrote: FS and Poly left side mins are outdated (there's actually a newer version of Poly with L shaped left side mins, Poly 1.72), modern maps don't use that formation anymore on the left side Sylphid 12 should be exactly the same, #6 on Sylphid top formation needs to be manually boosted like the #1 patch on right side mins how about boosting #5? If you mine from the middle and hit return cargo at 3/4 of the way back to hatchery, it boosts as well it's not great, like 64 minerals per minute 0:55 82 minerals 2:55 210 minerals drone same position but it's faster than mining from the left side #6 is something like 75 so it's a way bigger increase so that might be the one to focus on though edit: #1 on the left side can be boosted with placing a pool in the right spot, I'll test it later | ||
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iopq
United States879 Posts
![[image loading]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/u/0/drive-viewer/AFGJ81p9w4kAIsYG4TgeGQ2MhLyQ57YH2jzi9tWrw7cXnX-9j361vBvysDlzFZsXv3JefVTevKINrO3OpeEiinGJZDbHHEAYKA=w1920-h963) this what I'm talking about 1:40 82 6:08 410 ~73 minerals per second gas is not affected, still about 102 gas per second per drone (the drones go off to the side for some reason from time to time??) | ||
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iopq
United States879 Posts
in my tests more like 98 gas/min/drone which is slower than the bottom gas mining | ||
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