[Patch 5.15] Fiora Remake General Discussion

Reminder the PBE thread has been revived - please take PBE discussion there, thanks! http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/491813-pbe-515-juggernaughts-general-discussion

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

August 04 2015 20:29 GMT

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Patch 5.15: Live on Aug. 5th, 2015

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NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

August 04 2015 20:32 GMT

If next patch really does remake four champions

C O M P E T I T I V E I N T E G R I T Y I N C

Frolossus

United States4779 Posts

August 04 2015 20:35 GMT

duo lane mordekaiser is gonna be hype

Elite00fm

United States548 Posts

August 04 2015 20:36 GMT

AD carries are going to be even more completely ridiculous than they are now with the new item changes. Randuins nerfed, frozen heart nerfed, thornmail nerfed. I hope the new items they are talking about are good enough to make up for this.

Gahlo

United States35130 Posts

August 04 2015 20:39 GMT

Like the Ekko changes, we might see people actually buy AP on him again. I'm going to have to start banning Teemo purely because more people will be playing him now. Yay HUD improvements.

Item rework
Null magic being cheaper is a very welcome change.

Aegis build is much nicer and cheaper, pure pazzak. Sucks about legion getting nerfed, but I'll get over it.

Locket just went full Riven in balance's eyes.

Banner... what a garbage item. =^)

SV/BV changes are solid.

Cinderhulk is... interesting?

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

August 04 2015 20:40 GMT

well its basically there way of saying no one was going to pick these 4 champs competitive at world anyways, you know it we know it too so stfu.

I can't understand the armor/mr changes at all though.

But then again we should be wiser by now, these drastic changes before worlds are coincidences or "oopsies" by riot, they do it intentionally to build up hype for COOL WORLDS STRATZ and make it EXCITING ESPORTZ

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

August 04 2015 20:41 GMT

Wtf.

Please god don't let the skarner changes go through... what a stupid stupid idea.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 04 2015 20:42 GMT

I wonder if changing Teemo's shrooms to 5 minutes from 10 will be offset by his numerous buffs.

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

August 04 2015 20:47 GMT

RIP my no skill fiora rampages
they're gonna take my garen next fuck he's so strong and nobody knows

Goumindong

United States3529 Posts

August 04 2015 20:56 GMT

#10

On August 05 2015 05:36 Elite00fm wrote:
AD carries are going to be even more completely ridiculous than they are now with the new item changes. Randuins nerfed, frozen heart nerfed, thornmail nerfed. I hope the new items they are talking about are good enough to make up for this.

Randuins was buffed. Hugely. Not only does it have crit damage reduction which is hilariously strong* but it also has a very long duration on the active slow. It is marginally cheaper and has a bit less armor/hp but that is not a big deal considering very many AD's will have zekes compliments making their crit rate very high, and making the crit reduction totally bonkers.

*With 10% crit damage reduction you take 2.25 damage from an IE crit and 1.8 damage from a regular crit. with 20% you take 2.0 damage from an IE crit and 1.6 damage from a regular crit. Ashe will do less damage with an attack to a slowed target until she has 15% crit(since all of her attacks count as crits)

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

August 04 2015 20:58 GMT

#11

On August 05 2015 05:39 Gahlo wrote:
Like the Ekko changes, we might see people actually buy AP on him again. I'm going to have to start banning Teemo purely because more people will be playing him now. Yay HUD improvements.

Item rework
Null magic being cheaper is a very welcome change.

Aegis build is much nicer and cheaper, pure pazzak. Sucks about legion getting nerfed, but I'll get over it.

Locket just went full Riven in balance's eyes.

Banner... what a garbage item. =^)

SV/BV changes are solid.

Cinderhulk is... interesting?

changes are shit, they don't actually buff AP Ekko, which is weak,just hurt his only viable build. It won't drive people to build AP on him, it will drive them to play other champions who are better

Eiii

United States2566 Posts

August 04 2015 21:08 GMT

#12

Everything they're proposing is insane and exactly what league needs.

now to see how it all turns out

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

August 04 2015 21:12 GMT

#13

I like that Riot is moving out of their comfort zone and making changes that previously would have been unthinkable.

I think they need a better filter though. Some ideas are just meh.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

August 04 2015 21:13 GMT

#14

On August 05 2015 06:12 Seuss wrote:
I like that Riot is moving out of their comfort zone and making changes that previously would have been unthinkable.

I think they need a better filter though. Some ideas are just meh.

This is fine, but it should be done after worlds.

Gahlo

United States35130 Posts

August 04 2015 21:14 GMT

#15

On August 05 2015 05:58 sob3k wrote:

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changes are shit, they don't actually buff AP Ekko, which is weak,just hurt his only viable build. It won't drive people to build AP on him, it will drive them to play other champions who are better

Passive buffed AP ratio and reduced utility. W nerfed base damage and almost doubled AP ratio. R cut base health recovery and doubled the AP ratio to it.

Yeah, don't see how these don't promote AP on him.

PBE stuffs

Well, time to give Riot more money for the Riven skin. Oh, and Riot finally broke down and made schoolgirl Ahri. lol

MajorityofOne

Canada2506 Posts

August 04 2015 21:18 GMT

#16

Recent champions suggested everyone at riot is high as balls and these juggernaut changes confirm it

Goddamn but that Riven skin though

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 04 2015 21:24 GMT

#17

Agree with Gahlo that Ekko is definitely more incentivized to build AP.

I like the crazy changes more than "AP ratio reduced from 1.0 to .9" and "AD reduced from 45 to 40". I don't really care about how it affects world. Change is good.

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

August 04 2015 21:25 GMT

#18

On August 05 2015 06:18 MajorityofOne wrote:
Recent champions suggested everyone at riot is high as balls and these juggernaut changes confirm it

Goddamn but that Riven skin though

I like it all but skarner.

Skarner don't make sense.