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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 05 2015 07:48 Seuss wrote: 100% agree. This is preseason levels of change. Yea I like a lot of the concepts. Just dam this isn't the time. Hoping the experimentation opens the door for more interesting utility type actives. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
edit: If his Q still resets his auto attack timer then add another 50 some onto that. 13 auto attacks worth of damage in 3 autos and 14 autos worth of damage if it still resets his auto timer. It also looks like it works with triforce since it explicitly triples what the last auto attack did. So if you have triforce as a damage item only you will Q-Auto-Auto-Auto for 463.5 then 1390.5 then 4171.5 at level 18 [at level 18 Morde will have 144 ish base AD] what in the everloving fuck ed: Even if it doesn't it still bonkers | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On August 05 2015 07:57 Goumindong wrote: Mordekaiser now does 773.5 damage in three auto attacks at level 1. Well he does have a big spiked ball. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
Also I have recently been building IE->PD->BT instead of LW if the enemy team hasn't really built any armor on stuff like Cait in soloQ. Does this make me a scrublord? I feel that the lifesteal is a godsend in soloQ, and I still do very solid damage. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On August 05 2015 07:41 JonGalt wrote: Am I dumb or are most of the people in here talking about PBE and not 5.15? They are. The problem with talking about PBE elsewhere is nobody does it and just does it here. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 05 2015 07:57 Goumindong wrote: Mordekaiser now does 773.5 damage in three auto attacks at level 1. Wut? | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
But Morde is so locked into a build path he needs spell vamp to spam spells, not just for clearing waves, but also for sustaining in teamfights. And the best spell vamp item is WotA. And he needs CC so people don't just take an E R ignite from him and ignore him. Mandatory. And what happens if someone jumps on you to hit you? You hit them back. A bronze and a challenger Morde would react the same way to trading 90% of the time. There's like a 4% difference in winrate between someone playing Morde their first 5 games and their 125th according to champion.gg http://champion.gg/champion/Mordekaiser And I thought Fiora was some overly difficult champion at one point because you needed to know and practice some super hard 5 autoattack combo. But really you can just use your hydra whenever and ult whenever you're about to take damage to dodge spells, heal yourself, and wreck the enemy team. Viola, you've contributed to the fight. There's like no difference in winrate from game 5 to game 125 http://champion.gg/champion/Fiora | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:16 Gahlo wrote: They are. The problem with talking about PBE elsewhere is nobody does it and just does it here. Good point | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:30 Seuss wrote: The math is off because the tripling effect is only for the bonus damage, which has ratios not listed on the S@20 page. Oh that is t nearly so ridiculous then. But damned if that isn't how they wrote and explained it. What is the bonus damage then. Same as current? s@20 and the riot lead on the ability says that mordes q does 3x damage on the second attack and 9x on the third. Which is 1+3+9 = 13 auto attacks worth of damage in 3 attacks. Mordes new base attack at level 1 multiples by 13 is where I got these numbers | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On August 05 2015 11:01 Goumindong wrote: Oh that is t nearly so ridiculous then. But damned if that isn't how they wrote and explained it. What is the bonus damage then. Same as current? s@20 and the riot lead on the ability says that mordes q does 3x damage on the second attack and 9x on the third. Which is 1+3+9 = 13 auto attacks worth of damage in 3 attacks. Mordes new base attack at level 1 multiples by 13 is where I got these numbers According to reignofgaming the multiplier scales with rank. Yeah, it's still crazy, but you're not going to do that much damage at level 1. At level one it's actually 1 + 2 + 4 = 7x damage in 3 attacks. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
W has a 60% Total AD ratio on the DoT, and a 30% AP ratio on the final damage. E has a 60% AP ratio. R's AP ratio appears to be 4% per 100 AP. So his AD scaling is much better than before, but building pure AD isn't all that good. | ||
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