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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 08:05 GMT
#2167
OK it's the weekend so I won't a lot of time to play until Monday. Will read what happen from time to time
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 08:54 GMT
#2170
On June 20 2015 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who scum reads me? I just wanna know who I should kill ^^.

I do. I expect to see you tonight then. I'll leave some cookies on the kitchen.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 14:56 GMT
#2175
On June 20 2015 21:51 ruXxar wrote:
From actually thinking through what I wrote up above, it could make sense that Rels is mafia.

I'll make an evaluation on him to see if I can put together a solid case based on his actions.
After I'm done with that I'll be giving you my clear stance on Rels.

I'm doing this as much for my own sake, to get all my thoughts in order. I need to clear out my head on the Rels/sulfur association.

Sure. I'm happy you're doing this 'cause here is my POE right now:

Town:
WOS
Trfel
batsnacks
Kickstart
ruxxar

Scum:
Damdred
Oatsmaster

You're my weakest town read, so bring on your case. I want to see if it's forced or not.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 14:58 GMT
#2176
On June 20 2015 10:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rels looks like mafia for not seeing the "scum slip"

You're serious about not reading.

Ruxxar pointed about this "slip" first, and we pressured scott about it, and here was his response:
On June 20 2015 00:54 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 00:51 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2015 00:47 scott31337 wrote:
On June 20 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
@Scott

Woud like to know the answer to that too.

On June 19 2015 22:14 ruXxar wrote:
On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote:
Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.



I can't interpret this post any other way than you being mafia Scott.
I'm sorry.



I replaced into Newbie Mini Mafia LX Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3 and Half the Sky carried us into that game - I posted a case and the town had no clue who to vote and GG'ed it out - flawless
Newbie Student Mafia VIII Mafia Godfather Survived Day 3 - Holyflare replaced into this and he's one of the most respected mafia players here I look up to - no mafia died 3-0 as well.
Newbie Student Mafia IX Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 - I woke up to a wagon on me but had a lot to do lynch day and only had about 30 minutes to post my thoughts - I was town but after my mislynch town got themselves figured out and lynched mafia. I won this game as well.
Newbie IX - My internet shit the bed and was partying the night before so I was unable to get to a wifi connection before I was already lynched - was RB - lost
Holy Guardians - I was town and we were pretty lost until Day 4 - I was voting on a town and town Damdred saved the say for wanting to change the lynch when if he was mafia it was all over - we lynched Mafia and the game was almost in the bag- just had to convince town VE - it didn't work but was my best town experienced game - lost

That's not the question.

Did you have a coach in newbie IX as town ?


I did but I had real life issues and was unable to use it.

Coaching QT: LoneMeow http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/vWGAAqtcjfQp

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 16:16 GMT
#2179
Woaw. That case seems super good. I'll check Monday when I have time if it's that damning chronologically.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 21:51 GMT
#2194
On June 21 2015 06:43 ruXxar wrote:
Here's my thought on the mafias play.

Either your or wave are going to die.
If neither of you die, then one of you has to be mafia.

Does that sound far fetched?

The thought is valid but wifom.

I loved the way you answered these questions BTW. A mafia has to fabricate reads, so changing them is difficult. You explaining how you changed your read on the sulfu / me situation make me think you're really town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 22:03 GMT
#2200
Hahaha

Fuck

So we are 4-2 so we cannot mislynch anymore
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 22:08 GMT
#2205
Didnt plan on devoting time to play but with no mislynch possible I have too. Alright

First thing I'll update the vote things. Don't know of its going to be useful but they're already made so its not going to take much time
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 22:43 GMT
#2216
Vote recap

Day 1
+ Show Spoiler +

D1H00 Kickstart => Oatsmaster Reasons
D1H01 Trfel => ruxxar Reasons
D1H03 Sulfurus => Kickstart Reasons
D1H03 Kickstart => Sulfurus Reasons
D1H07 Sulfurus => Unvote Reasons
D1H10 noobking => batsnacks Reasons
D1H10 Rels => Fakeplants/scott Reasons
D1H17 ruxxar => batsnacks Reasons
D1H18 Oatsmaster => batsnacks Closest thing to reasons I found
D1H22 WOS => geript Reasons and fake vote D1H04
D1H22 geript => Sulfurus No reasons
D1H24 Trfel => Unvote Reasons
D1H24 batsnacks => Rels Reasons
D1H25 Sulfurus => batsnacks Reasons
D1H25 batsnacks => Sulfurus Reasons
D1H26 Rels => batsnacks Reasons
D1H27 WOS => Sulfurus Reasons
D1H28 Trfel => batsnacks Reasons
D1H28 scott => Sulfurus Reasons
D1H35 Rels => Unvote Reasons
D1H37 Rels => geript Reasons
D1H39 moosy => Sulfurus Reasons D1H29
D1H40 Oatsmaster => geript Reasons ... sort of
D1H45 Trfel => Rels Reasons
D1H45 Damdred => Rels Reasons
D1H45 geript => Rels Reasons
D1H46 scott => Rels Reasons
D1H46 batsnacks => geript Reasons
D1H46 Trfel => geript Reasons
D1H46 Damdred => geript Reasons
D1H46 moosy => geript Reasons
D1H47 ruxxar => geript Reasons
D1H47 scott => geript No reason


Day 2
+ Show Spoiler +

D2H00 batsnacks => Rels Reasons
D2H00 moosy => Rels Reasons
D2H00 scott => Rels Reasons
D2H00 ruxxar => Rels Reasons
D2H00 Damdred => Rels Reasons
D2H00 Kickstart => Rels Reasons
D2H03 batsnacks => ruxxar Reasons
D2H03 WOS => Sulfurus Reasons
D2H08 Trfel => Rels Reasons
D2H17 ruxxar => moosy Reasons ... sort of
D2H20 Trfel => Unvote Reasons
D2H21 scott => Unvote Reasons
D2H24 Damdred => Unvote No reason
D2H24 WOS => Kickstart Reasons
D2H24 Rels => Kickstart Reasons
D2H25 Kickstart => Sulfurus Reasons
D2H25 ruxxar => Kickstart Reasons
D2H32 Sulfurus => Oatsmaster Reasons
D2H33 Trfel => Kickstart Reasons
D2H41 Oatsmaster => Kickstart Reasons
D2H44 Damdred => ruxxar Reasons (not really)
D2H45 Damdred => Sulfurus Reasons
D2H45 WOS => Unvote Reasons
D2H45 WOS => Sulfurus Reasons
D2H45 moosy => Unvote Reasons
D2H47 batsnacks => Sulfurus Reasons
D2H47 moosy => Sulfurus Reasons
D2H47 Trfel => Sulfurus Reasons
D2H47 scott => Kickstart Reasons
D2H47 Sulfurus => Kickstart No reason
D2H47 scott => Sulfurus Reasons


Day 3
+ Show Spoiler +

D3H00 Trfel => scott Reasons
D3H00 scott => Oats Reasons
D3H01 batsnacks => ruxxar Reasons
D3H12 Rels => scott Reasons
D3H18 Oats => scott No reason
D3H20 ruxxar => Oats Reasons
D3H20 batsnacks => scott Reasons
D3H21 Kickstart => scott Reasons
D3H21 ruxxar => scott Reasons
D2H23 WOS => Damdred Reasons
D3H26 scott => Damdred Reasons
D3H44 WOS => scott Reasons
D3H44 WOS => Damdred Reasons
D3H47 Damdred => scott No reason
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 22:47 GMT
#2217
OK please somebody, look at the vote recap above, look at Kickstart's votes and tell me your thoughts.

After you're done, what I found weird.
+ Show Spoiler +

Day 1 he voted Sulfu 3 hours into the game and never did anything else ??
Day 2 he was the first on Sulfu's wagon (WOS had switched before) and never did anything else ?
Day 3 he was on the easy train, not the only one. NAI.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 22:49 GMT
#2218
OK another thought.
Damdred dying might be a good opportunity for us.

For the first time in the game, something that the mafia didn't plan happened. It is very possible that the mafia team pushed subtily Damdred to be mislynched today.
If you remember someone saying "damdred might be scum" during day 3 or night 3, please quote.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 22:50 GMT
#2219
On June 21 2015 06:55 WaveofShadow wrote:

Ruxxar
rels
trfel

kickstart
oats
bats
damdred
Never had time to do reread 'cause weekend stuff, sorry
Not sure on the null/scum list tbh but I am confident the 2 scum are there.

Bye guys! It was a pleasure!

... fuck. My hard town read.

Cant believe WOS is mafia though ... Will see if someone else influenced him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 22:53 GMT
#2220
On June 21 2015 07:49 Rels wrote:
OK another thought.
Damdred dying might be a good opportunity for us.

For the first time in the game, something that the mafia didn't plan happened. It is very possible that the mafia team pushed subtily Damdred to be mislynched today.
If you remember someone saying "damdred might be scum" during day 3 or night 3, please quote.

OK on the other hand I just read Kickstart's filter the past two days. Wasn't hard it is so short ...
Kickstart hard defended Damdred the past two days, so wasn't pushing for his mislynch. Good point for him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 22:57 GMT
#2221
Wow someone actually did.

On June 18 2015 01:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wave you want to lunch danded tmr?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 23:01 GMT
#2223
On June 21 2015 07:59 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 07:53 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2015 07:49 Rels wrote:
OK another thought.
Damdred dying might be a good opportunity for us.

For the first time in the game, something that the mafia didn't plan happened. It is very possible that the mafia team pushed subtily Damdred to be mislynched today.
If you remember someone saying "damdred might be scum" during day 3 or night 3, please quote.

OK on the other hand I just read Kickstart's filter the past two days. Wasn't hard it is so short ...
Kickstart hard defended Damdred the past two days, so wasn't pushing for his mislynch. Good point for him.


Isn't it ironic how batsnacks was the biggest proponent of damdred scum? That's why damdred is dead in the first place LOL.

Yeah.

When batsnacks pushed the easy lynch on geript, mafia and townie alike followed.
When Trfel / me / others pushed the easy lynch on scott, mafia and townie alike followed.
So I want to know who tried to push the easy lynch on Damdred, if that actually happened.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 23:06 GMT
#2225
On June 20 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:
Though I have a thought that I want to talk about when I get to a comp

LOL last message
RIP
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 23:10 GMT
#2227
Oats pushing the Damdred train day 3 when he is voting scott for no reason given in thread.
On June 18 2015 01:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wave you want to lunch danded tmr?

On June 19 2015 16:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 16:09 Trfel wrote:
On June 19 2015 16:04 scott31337 wrote:
On June 19 2015 15:30 Trfel wrote:
Scott31337, I see your post and I'm pretty convinced you are mafia. Not going to argue with you about this any more.


I'm sorry you feel this way -
Who would you like to lynch tomorrow when I flip town?
Not sure. I'm also suspecting Oatsmaster, looking through his filter at the moment. And I still need to take a closer look at ruXxar.

There are a lot of people who seem to be suspicious of Damdred, and I'm waiting for them to really explain why. I don't see many real reasons to suspect Damdred at this point.

why is damdred town?

On June 19 2015 16:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 16:29 Trfel wrote:
On June 19 2015 16:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 19 2015 16:09 Trfel wrote:
On June 19 2015 16:04 scott31337 wrote:
On June 19 2015 15:30 Trfel wrote:
Scott31337, I see your post and I'm pretty convinced you are mafia. Not going to argue with you about this any more.


I'm sorry you feel this way -
Who would you like to lynch tomorrow when I flip town?
Not sure. I'm also suspecting Oatsmaster, looking through his filter at the moment. And I still need to take a closer look at ruXxar.

There are a lot of people who seem to be suspicious of Damdred, and I'm waiting for them to really explain why. I don't see many real reasons to suspect Damdred at this point.

why is damdred town?
I analyzed Damdred's voting in this post. While the formatting isn't ideal (the formatting emphasized the less important parts), I just don't feel like Damdred's interactions with Sulfurus are sensible for mafia.

how should damdred interaction with sulf if hes mafia?

Also, why dont you agree that the voting analysis is pretty damn useless.

How is the voting analysis useful?


This one I didn't include above 'cause I don't understand it:
On June 20 2015 10:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Woosh.

Also If damdred can post, he can catch up.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 23:18 GMT
#2229
On June 21 2015 08:12 Kickstart wrote:
Don't like the position we are in. Oats deserves to die but if he is town then he fucked all of us by deciding to not play this game. If he is town now is the time for him to do something, otherwise he is still the best lynch.

You posted the same thing for scott. Why do you believe it will be different this time ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 23:28 GMT
#2232
On June 21 2015 08:25 ruXxar wrote:
Damn rels.

Look at your own filter then search for damdred...


Yeah I know. I remember batsnacks and I were willing to lynch Damdred today. So I'm looking for someone happy to push subtily this idea.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2015 23:32 GMT
#2234
Yeah and you have the exact opposite.
On June 20 2015 04:03 ruXxar wrote:
This is the most towny post of damdred:

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 14:19 Damdred wrote:
Let me reinterate I'm not shitting on you, I want you to stop playing with a chip on your shoulder right now and cooperate towards finding scum to be active.

Like you can say a lot about my early game I know its the weakest part of my game and its compounded here by work+replacing in at an awkward juncture, but if I say X is a problem in this situation regardless of alignment its just how I see it. Its not a tunnel, I generally don't tunnel.

Here's the thing I honestly think that you are probably town. And we need to not bicker, I accept that I'm playing like shit and I can laugh at myself about it, give me some reads Ks.

personally id still rather lynch rux or sul today. I'd rather not lynch moose because of bad reasons. Oats is a possibility he has no real floe this game and can't see his thought movement which is troubling

Wave is probably town, rel feels town. Trfel is probably town, bats is defo town. So for me its a pretty small list of players I could see hang today.


I see few spotlights of townyness in his play, but otherwise he's been a null read from his actions for me.

Only reason for me to suspect him is his lack of activity, and his unwillingness to lead the thread forward.

But by process of elimination the most likely scum is Damdred and oats, and I don't think oats is scum if scott is scum.



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