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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 13:56 GMT
#681
On June 13 2015 22:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 22:46 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 22:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
I DONT WANT TO THINK MAN, i just want to suggest bandwagons and have people sheep me cause I smell nice.
geript is mafia because he jumped on moose as a placeholder vote and then came back and changed to someone else without seriously addressing his previous points on moose and why they are now invalid, and the connections because that was a weird sort of associative lynch. And hes been not posting a lot.

Oh man you just said I did well scumreading you. I hate people who say that.

The bolded is just my opinion man.

But the important question here is if someone gets lynched today, are you the driving or even secondary influence for that lynch? Because if not, then you are useless and not helping town with a shit ton of posts.

I don't know if geript is a better lynch than sulfurus, Rels, or Damdred. I will read geript's filter and let you know what I think.

I have owned up to my scummy opening like 10 times. I am completely self aware as to how scummy I was being. The operative word being "was" as in I was being scummy in the past and not now.

Your opinion is wrong.

I started the wagon:
On June 13 2015 08:27 batsnacks wrote:
I might have to switch to sulfur this is ridiculous.

Thank you for bringing that up.


Lol that doesnt count please.

Can you expand on Rels mafia?

Cause while his posts are not great, they seem well intentioned enough.


It absolutely counts I was the first person in the game to say sulfurus is scummy.

I can't expand on Rels mafia beyond what Trfel has already said better than I could. I don't know what "well intentioned enough" means in the context of what someone's alignment is.

Also I read geript's filter and have concluded he hasn't contributed to the game yet. The most substantial thing in there was what happened at the very start of the day and that has been hashed and rehashed enough times. There are some bizarre free townreads in there too e.g. oats and damdred. I don't disagree that oats is town but I don't think oats is town because of the vt thing that geript said. Geript is at the very least a better lynch than me.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 13:59 GMT
#682
@damdred I appreciate you coming to my rescue. You must now find mafia and vote them please.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 13 2015 14:00 GMT
#683
lol everyone is a better lynch than you bats, even me.

well intentioned means that it feels like Rels is trying to find mafia.
Not very well but still.

Every other post of yours is bad bats.
...
No gg, No skill.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:01 GMT
#684
On June 13 2015 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol everyone is a better lynch than you bats, even me.

well intentioned means that it feels like Rels is trying to find mafia.
Not very well but still.

Every other post of yours is bad bats.
...


I know you are but what am I?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#685
I'm trying to figure out why people are scumreading sulfurus.

I read through his filter and I found nothing to make me read him as either alignment.
I went through the voting history to see who voted for him.
The kickstart vote was too early to judge for me, so I ignored it.
The next one to vote is geript.

Reading through geripts filter I get a bad vibe.

On June 12 2015 10:27 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:10 ruXxar wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting on me, besides the fact that very few other people have spoke up yet.

I am just rather overwhelmed by the amount of (cross) analysis occurring right now. ^.^ Although this is my first time around, I can already tell this will be great.

Down to business. So @ruXxar, your reasoning for voting for Kickstart is his statement about lying in a game of Mafia?

And @Trfel, can you please share why you're suspecting @ruXxar? I would have to agree with ruXxar's point that it is generally annoying when someone answers a question directed at you. Although I don't see why Kickstart went so far as to vote for Oatsmaster right off the bat. Unless he's the Mafia and trying to mislead us.

On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves.

people should be talking about this.


He pointed out that since noone jumped on moosy for this post, then moosy is mafia.
This makes no sense to me. To me that post is filled with genuine excitement from a newbie.
Seeing as I'm a newbie too i understand all to well how he must've felt in his early posts.

On June 13 2015 03:31 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 03:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Geript I don't understand how you go from seemingly town-->scum-->town on moosy without any real change in anything he has done. Not following thought processes with you at all, though I think that actually might be standard for you and it annoys me.

Never assumed he was town to start w/ babycakes. Moreso:
1. Moosy makes a god awful post --> I think he's scum
2. No one pushes Moosy --> If he's town I'd expect someone to have jumped on him therefore scum
3. Posts a shit ton --> Probably just nubian with bad opening and mafia afk or otherwise engaged


On June 13 2015 05:29 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:10 ruXxar wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting on me, besides the fact that very few other people have spoke up yet.

I am just rather overwhelmed by the amount of (cross) analysis occurring right now. ^.^ Although this is my first time around, I can already tell this will be great.

Down to business. So @ruXxar, your reasoning for voting for Kickstart is his statement about lying in a game of Mafia?

And @Trfel, can you please share why you're suspecting @ruXxar? I would have to agree with ruXxar's point that it is generally annoying when someone answers a question directed at you. Although I don't see why Kickstart went so far as to vote for Oatsmaster right off the bat. Unless he's the Mafia and trying to mislead us.

On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves.

Did you look at this post at all?

He's commenting about things that don't really matter in a way that he's seemingly had some interesting thought on it. He asks a question that's essentially a statement. He meanders through potentially interesting topics while giving no opinion on anything. Then he plays the dumbtell card.

It's a big post that literally offers nothing while commenting on things in a way that confer a formed opinion. It almost can be boiled down to:
"I've been thinking about this game, but I won't really comment on it at all. What do you guys think about this random stuff?"
I don't see even newer town players do that often.


Then he gets into an argument with waveofshadow who also picks up on his inconsistency in alignment on moosy.


I can't see his reasoning for voting on sulfurous. Basically he said 2 things about sulfurous:

On June 13 2015 03:08 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 10:12 Sulfurus wrote:
I'm starting to really like the case on Kickstarter; he has made a lot of posts that give the illusion of being a helpful towny with his PSA and rule clarifications but they are really just filler and something that the mods already have covered.

On top of that I think n00bKing's defense of ruXx is spot on which gives even more validity to the Kickstarter push.

##Vote: Kickstarter

(I admit that in a vacuum I would probably scum read Bats more but I've learned my lesson from last game)


This post is pretty bad.


and

On June 13 2015 05:12 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 04:37 Sulfurus wrote:
@geript That's good that you no longer scum read Moosy but Bats hasn't made the same realization you have and you townread two of the people voting on him. So what do you think of him?

I'd rather lynch you.


Then kickstart says this which aligns with my own thinking.

On June 13 2015 06:03 Kickstart wrote:
Went through geript's filter. His move off moosy and onto sulfurus was weird to me. He just said "id rather lynch you" in this thread, then voted in the other thread, and hasn't mentioned it at all. strange.


This give me a townlean on kickstart.

I still think bats is our best lynch for day 1, but geript has raised a red flag for me.
I want to know why he's voting for sulfurus.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:08 GMT
#686
Why am I the best lynch ruxxar? Think about this game from an the perspective of an outside observer who knows everyone's alignment.

Right now you think the best lynch for d1 is the person who cares the most about the game and has put in more effort than anyone else.

If I'm town than an outside observer is probably looking at you (and oats) and thinking "what the literal fuck are these people doing?"

Even if I'm mafia the same outside observer is thinking... "yeah bats is mafia but still... what the literal fuck are these people doing?"

How do you expect to win by lynching the person who put forth the most effort d1?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 13 2015 14:09 GMT
#687
Thats like the worst argument in existence.
No gg, No skill.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:10 GMT
#688
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 13 2015 14:38 GMT
#689
On June 13 2015 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.

i mean, it probably means you arent mafia because mafia know that activity isnt a good argument.
So you got that going for you
No gg, No skill.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:42 GMT
#690
On June 13 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.

i mean, it probably means you arent mafia because mafia know that activity isnt a good argument.
So you got that going for you


Activity is a very strong argument for d1 especially for me. I would say that you should know this, but I expect less from you and will have to adjust my meta of you to expect even less after this game.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 13 2015 14:43 GMT
#691
On June 13 2015 23:42 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.

i mean, it probably means you arent mafia because mafia know that activity isnt a good argument.
So you got that going for you


Activity is a very strong argument for d1 especially for me. I would say that you should know this, but I expect less from you and will have to adjust my meta of you to expect even less after this game.

Ok?

You think I care.
Its funny.
No gg, No skill.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:47 GMT
#692
On June 13 2015 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:42 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.

i mean, it probably means you arent mafia because mafia know that activity isnt a good argument.
So you got that going for you


Activity is a very strong argument for d1 especially for me. I would say that you should know this, but I expect less from you and will have to adjust my meta of you to expect even less after this game.

Ok?

You think I care.
Its funny.


No I know you don't care, which is part why the adjustment is necessary.

This is your new meta: Oats pushes the first thing he sees and doesn't stop until not doing so would endanger his chances of survival. Oats is not logical and does not re-evaluate his reads.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 13 2015 14:53 GMT
#693
On June 13 2015 23:47 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:42 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.

i mean, it probably means you arent mafia because mafia know that activity isnt a good argument.
So you got that going for you


Activity is a very strong argument for d1 especially for me. I would say that you should know this, but I expect less from you and will have to adjust my meta of you to expect even less after this game.

Ok?

You think I care.
Its funny.


No I know you don't care, which is part why the adjustment is necessary.

This is your new meta: Oats pushes the first thing he sees and doesn't stop until not doing so would endanger his chances of survival. Oats is not logical and does not re-evaluate his reads.

Yes very good, thats my meta.
No gg, No skill.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:55 GMT
#694
On June 13 2015 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:47 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:42 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.

i mean, it probably means you arent mafia because mafia know that activity isnt a good argument.
So you got that going for you


Activity is a very strong argument for d1 especially for me. I would say that you should know this, but I expect less from you and will have to adjust my meta of you to expect even less after this game.

Ok?

You think I care.
Its funny.


No I know you don't care, which is part why the adjustment is necessary.

This is your new meta: Oats pushes the first thing he sees and doesn't stop until not doing so would endanger his chances of survival. Oats is not logical and does not re-evaluate his reads.

Yes very good, thats my meta.


I accidentally used a double negative but I'm glad you understand what I meant anyway.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 13 2015 15:14 GMT
#695
Lets lynch geript kk.
No gg, No skill.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 13 2015 15:25 GMT
#696
What was the case on sul? I just read his filter, its interesting but the only problem I see is his subtle change on bats and went along with thread sentiment a bit.

Geript is weird I give you that.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 15:28 GMT
#697
I don't know... I reread both their filters and sulfurus has talked more about n00b's townread on rux than anything else this game like that's the focal point of his entire filter. Why is town sulfur spending more time talking about someone else's townread than anything else?

Page 2 [half] of geript's filter isn't pushing any agenda except for the reasonless list post where he says rux/sulfur is who we should lynch.

I want to wait and see if either of them post again.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 15:56 GMT
#698
Scott was kicked out of my town circle btw. I forgot why.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 15:58 GMT
#699
It was a good reason tho. I remember thinking that.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 13 2015 15:59 GMT
#700
That's not a bad point about sulfus. But I'm not sure it's alignment indicative necessarily, some times people get side tracked.

Geript yea I didn't like his filter parts of it seemed pointless, abd his argument with wave just read weird to me. I could,vote for,geript
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