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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 13 2015 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Im pretty sure bats is mafia. If bats was town, he would say "tunneling me for 70% of the day", not "a town for 70%". Stop being dumb. I don't even like calling people dumb but this is the dumbest confirmation biased-est thing I've ever seen you post. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 13 2015 21:55 batsnacks wrote: I am actively trying to convince you and would be delighted if Trfel joined in. Trfel at the very least is scuming me for recent things. You, noob, and rux just didn't like my opening. Im sure you read the most recent Ver game where he caught at least one mafia because of a bad opening post. Tell me, why did you vote for the vt claim? You think that mafia somehow claims vt in one of the first few posts? Have you see that happen before? | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 13 2015 21:56 Oatsmaster wrote: The quote I posted is later than this quote and he clearly says that he thinks you are playing differently now. I really dont know what you think you are trying to do. Sulfurus hasn't said specifically what was similar to last game or what wasn't similar to last game. Nothing changed except the opportunity to vote me, which he took. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 13 2015 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Im sure you read the most recent Ver game where he caught at least one mafia because of a bad opening post. Tell me, why did you vote for the vt claim? You think that mafia somehow claims vt in one of the first few posts? Have you see that happen before? I voted the vt claim because I didn't like it. I had no intention of keeping my vote there for that reason alone for any extended period of time. Also I never actually voted him. I was expressing distaste in the claim. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 13 2015 21:59 batsnacks wrote: Sulfurus hasn't said specifically what was similar to last game or what wasn't similar to last game. Nothing changed except the opportunity to vote me, which he took. So he isnt lying, hes just incompetent. In his explanation, he says that he was convinced because of his townreads scumreading you. And hes the top scumread, you hardly need to push him more. Who else is mafia? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 13 2015 22:00 batsnacks wrote: I voted the vt claim because I didn't like it. I had no intention of keeping my vote there for that reason alone for any extended period of time. Also I never actually voted him. I was expressing distaste in the claim. So is the claim scummy or not? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 13 2015 22:03 Oatsmaster wrote: So he isnt lying, hes just incompetent. In his explanation, he says that he was convinced because of his townreads scumreading you. And hes the top scumread, you hardly need to push him more. Who else is mafia? Right now Rels looks like mafia I still think Trfel's case was really good. Geript/damdred could be mafia especially if their posting doesn't pick up before deadline. I am especially skeptical of damdred because he should know I'm town and right now he's just not playing and letting a townie get lynched. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
The claim isn't scummy it's just not optimal. On June 13 2015 22:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Also, when did you townread Trfel? Trfel starts being townie after this post: + Show Spoiler + On June 13 2015 06:44 Trfel wrote: I had a town lean on batsnacks due to the balance between his jokes and serious reads. Since then, batsnacks has been much more serious, and his jokes are few and far between, so this read isn't valid any more. (bold added) So if he doesn't do it intentionally, then why is it towny? This point about ruXxar continuing to press the lying issue is good. I guess I judged ruXxar too early. ##unvote I really don't like this post at all. Posting without having read the thread is useless, the only thing it helps with is making it look like you're doing more work that you actually are, and it detracts from scumhunting. But making a useless post after the investigation has already started is pathetic. Rels, what about ruXxar's post made you say this? I have no idea why someone as experienced as WaveofShadow would share a potential association case while in the same post acknowledging that association cases are bad. Please explain. Why does calling out the player with only one post, who needs to get replaced, make someone town? Especially because, if you are town, he called out the easiest player to pick on who happens to be confirmed town. I really don't like batsnacks' response to the pressure on him. Batsnacks doesn't normally react like this, he's fine under pressure. In my first game playing with him, I tunneled him for basically all of Day 1 and Night 1, and he made a post telling people to stop arguing about useless things and read the case I had posted on him. I need to read some filters, but batsnacks seems very active, concerned about his safety, but not providing actual content. Third party. His re-evaluating the ruxxar read and moving on to pressure others was good. I actually called him out about 15 seconds prior and he ninja'ed me with this post. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
When you vote people, you dont always think they are mafia? Is that correct bats? dammit bats I want to lynch mafia today but you are the scummiest. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Ok Ok fine. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 13 2015 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote: So instead of explain why its "not optimal", your best way of explaining was the vote the dude? When you vote people, you dont always think they are mafia? Is that correct bats? dammit bats I want to lynch mafia today but you are the scummiest. I never voted him! And I did explain that no one should claim! On June 12 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote: I'm going to make a quick and easy how to play town guide:
And I am NOT the scummiest you are just caught in a logical fallacy that I WILL get you out of. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 13 2015 22:17 batsnacks wrote: I never voted him! And I did explain that no one should claim! And I am NOT the scummiest you are just caught in a logical fallacy that I WILL get you out of. You did. voting thread doesnt count. If we didnt have a voting thead, you wouldve voted. Answer the question. Also, what logical fallacy? That you are useless and are not helping town at all, that you constantly complain about getting scumread and you do nothing but scumread the person everyone else thinks is mafia? Sure, logical fallacy. You would lynch geript? | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 13 2015 22:21 Oatsmaster wrote: You did. voting thread doesnt count. If we didnt have a voting thead, you wouldve voted. Answer the question. Also, what logical fallacy? That you are useless and are not helping town at all, that you constantly complain about getting scumread and you do nothing but scumread the person everyone else thinks is mafia? Sure, logical fallacy. You would lynch geript? Bolded = completely wrong, I'm disappointed that you would even say that. Also yes, sure, logical fallacy. You're scum reading me for a bad opening. It's now 48 hours later and I'm engaging you more than anyone has engaged anyone this game. You saw my bad opening, correctly scum read me for it, and now your perspective has been warped to believe everything I say is either bad or scummy. It's not. If I'm mafia then town is fucked because that means that mafia cares more about this game then town does. I would be happy to talk about a geript lynch. Why is geript scummier than e.g. sulfurus or ME? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
geript is mafia because he jumped on moose as a placeholder vote and then came back and changed to someone else without seriously addressing his previous points on moose and why they are now invalid, and the connections because that was a weird sort of associative lynch. And hes been not posting a lot. Oh man you just said I did well scumreading you. I hate people who say that. The bolded is just my opinion man. But the important question here is if someone gets lynched today, are you the driving or even secondary influence for that lynch? Because if not, then you are useless and not helping town with a shit ton of posts. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
If you look at bats last scum/town games you see a few things crop up. 1) as scum once it's clear that he is going to,be one of,l the leading wagons his care factor diminishes to a few posts randomly complaining without doing anything about it or pushing his own thoughts. In comparison here he is pushing what he thinks explaining why he's town,and,not giving,up. I liked bats when I first read his filter. He keeps pushing the thread. 2) as scum, he has developed an ability to have weak scum reads to a point. Here he has well reasoned or seemingly well reasoned reasons for calling people out. 3) resorts to trolling as scum when he's caught. He's not doing this here. Bats is town, besides meta. Biggest filter, most controversial figure d1. Okish reads. Leave the bats alone | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 13 2015 22:42 Damdred wrote: Yeah bats is a completely stupid lynch, here. (Never use this again bats is to smart a player) If you look at bats last scum/town games you see a few things crop up. 1) as scum once it's clear that he is going to,be one of,l the leading wagons his care factor diminishes to a few posts randomly complaining without doing anything about it or pushing his own thoughts. In comparison here he is pushing what he thinks explaining why he's town,and,not giving,up. I liked bats when I first read his filter. He keeps pushing the thread. 2) as scum, he has developed an ability to have weak scum reads to a point. Here he has well reasoned or seemingly well reasoned reasons for calling people out. 3) resorts to trolling as scum when he's caught. He's not doing this here. Bats is town, besides meta. Biggest filter, most controversial figure d1. Okish reads. Leave the bats alone lynch you instead? sounds good to me. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 13 2015 22:40 Oatsmaster wrote: I DONT WANT TO THINK MAN, i just want to suggest bandwagons and have people sheep me cause I smell nice. geript is mafia because he jumped on moose as a placeholder vote and then came back and changed to someone else without seriously addressing his previous points on moose and why they are now invalid, and the connections because that was a weird sort of associative lynch. And hes been not posting a lot. Oh man you just said I did well scumreading you. I hate people who say that. The bolded is just my opinion man. But the important question here is if someone gets lynched today, are you the driving or even secondary influence for that lynch? Because if not, then you are useless and not helping town with a shit ton of posts. I don't know if geript is a better lynch than sulfurus, Rels, or Damdred. I will read geript's filter and let you know what I think. I have owned up to my scummy opening like 10 times. I am completely self aware as to how scummy I was being. The operative word being "was" as in I was being scummy in the past and not now. Your opinion is wrong. I started the wagon: On June 13 2015 08:27 batsnacks wrote: I might have to switch to sulfur this is ridiculous. Thank you for bringing that up. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 13 2015 22:46 batsnacks wrote: I don't know if geript is a better lynch than sulfurus, Rels, or Damdred. I will read geript's filter and let you know what I think. I have owned up to my scummy opening like 10 times. I am completely self aware as to how scummy I was being. The operative word being "was" as in I was being scummy in the past and not now. Your opinion is wrong. I started the wagon: Thank you for bringing that up. Lol that doesnt count please. Can you expand on Rels mafia? Cause while his posts are not great, they seem well intentioned enough. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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