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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 13 2015 16:27 GMT
#701
On June 14 2015 00:58 geript wrote:
It was a good reason tho. I remember thinking that.

Yo geript. If you ever remember that reason I'll be super interested, as I hated plants' only post.

Please answer this post:
On June 13 2015 19:22 Rels wrote:
Geript could you expand on two things when you come back ?

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On June 13 2015 03:08 geript wrote:
On June 12 2015 10:12 Sulfurus wrote:
I'm starting to really like the case on Kickstarter; he has made a lot of posts that give the illusion of being a helpful towny with his PSA and rule clarifications but they are really just filler and something that the mods already have covered.

On top of that I think n00bKing's defense of ruXx is spot on which gives even more validity to the Kickstarter push.

##Vote: Kickstarter

(I admit that in a vacuum I would probably scum read Bats more but I've learned my lesson from last game)

This post is pretty bad.

On June 12 2015 10:30 Kickstart wrote:
Because I've had the urge to troll you since I came back to playing mafia Oats. I can't help myself. Don't worry though the 2 scums atm are ruxxar and sulfurus so you are not in my tunnel atm.

[...]
Oooh Damdred replaced in. That guy's town 100%. ezpz.

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On June 13 2015 06:41 geript wrote:
Nah. Damdred is 100% town. He's gotten pretty easy to read.

It's pretty cool that you can read damdred (= but this game he's impossible for to read atm due to lack of posts. Were you saying that if he's town you're going to know it for sure later ? And do you read damdred town right now ?

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On June 13 2015 06:56 geript wrote:
On June 13 2015 06:47 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 06:47 geript wrote:
Wave not making association cases would be far more concerning. Not a fan of trfel


Why don't you like Trfel?

Not really something something I can put my finger on. Feels I guess. Maybe my impression of his meta is off from his actual meta since I don't think I've played a game with him for a bit.
[...]

I would be super interested if you took the time to reread Trfel's past game with you and expand on that. If you don't have the time to do that, could you at least try to explain this more ?

Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 13 2015 16:58 GMT
#702
Im going to sleep.
Lynch geript.
No gg, No skill.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 17:22 GMT
#703
Yay. People want to be stupid and lynch me again. This shit so tiring.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 17:31 GMT
#704
On June 14 2015 02:22 geript wrote:
Yay. People want to be stupid and lynch me again. This shit so tiring.


I don't think stupidity is the primary reason people want to lynch you.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 13 2015 17:37 GMT
#705
On June 13 2015 23:08 batsnacks wrote:
Why am I the best lynch ruxxar? Think about this game from an the perspective of an outside observer who knows everyone's alignment.

Right now you think the best lynch for d1 is the person who cares the most about the game and has put in more effort than anyone else.

If I'm town than an outside observer is probably looking at you (and oats) and thinking "what the literal fuck are these people doing?"

Even if I'm mafia the same outside observer is thinking... "yeah bats is mafia but still... what the literal fuck are these people doing?"

How do you expect to win by lynching the person who put forth the most effort d1?


Here's why I still don't like you(besides the case i made against you the first time):

On June 12 2015 22:54 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm going to sheep geript now he was making sense about moose.

##unvote
##vote moosygoosy


I didn't agree with geripts logic, so I don't agree with you sheeping him either.
To me, moosy is my #1 town read.

On June 13 2015 05:39 batsnacks wrote:
When is EOD? I need to know if I need to start picking it up to not get lynched or if I can afford to dick around some more.


Dicking around? That's not in line with trying to win the game. Either you're mafia or you're just not interested in winning as town. Either way a lynch is a good thing.

On June 13 2015 06:01 batsnacks wrote:

The worst thing I can find that sulfurus has done was misrepresenting how I played last game which isn't even the worst thing ever because I mislynched sulfurus last game, so he could just have some personal bias.

I don't want to lynch geript d1 but if you do then the stuff wave said is probably the best means to accomplish that. I can't add anything new that he hasn't said already and that geript hasn't already responded to.

People in this game are being unreadable and it's making me be crazy. Like yes objectively I am playing poorly but I am suffering from this warped perspective that by playing poorly for a time I can learn more about a game that I would just frustrate me if I were playing well.


Sounds like a bad excuse to me.

On June 13 2015 06:29 batsnacks wrote:
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On June 13 2015 06:26 geript wrote:
Newer players. Here's a hint. Just because someone isn't posting, doesn't make it malicious. People have real lives and we aren't all artificial intelligences perusing the interwebs and spending time doing random things like playing mafia on the interwebs. Being not around =/= being mafia in an of itself. It's an ok reason to supplement actual reasons for finding someone to be mafia. But in and of itself being not around doesn't make people mafia.


Oh yeah I forgot about that. All the people who were saying that you leaving the thread was scummy are wrong. I think wave was one of them; the other stuff he said was okay though.


Defending geript? I already don't like the associations between you two.

On June 13 2015 07:05 batsnacks wrote:
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On June 13 2015 07:02 n00bKing wrote:
On June 13 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:
What do I do if I don't have any scum reads? In a sense almost no one has scum reads because I'm town and the only people pushing stuff are pushing me.

Here's would lynch:
3)MoosyDoosy
4)Sulfurus
7)Fake)Plants
2)batsnacks
3)Trfel


here's idk can't form opinion:
6)damdred
1)Rels
4)WaveofShadow
5)geript
5)ruXxar

Here's would not lynch:
2)n00bKing
1)Kickstart
6)Oatsmaster

So you are 4th on your own lynch list? lol If you have a PM saying you are Town, and still would be content to lynch yourself, I guess your posts must look REALLY scummy to you!

If I have any hesitation about seeing you lynched, it would be that I actually like how a lot (not all, but a lot) of your list shakes out, including your placement near the top.
batsnacks wrote: help me not get lynched. Thx

I would help! But some dude named batsnacks told me to let other players defend themselves. :D


They're not in any specific order and I made that list in like 30 seconds and yes I would lynch me I am one of the scummier players in the game, though historically I have only ever lynched myself as town so this is a point in my favor.


Why would a town say that he would want to lynch himself?
Makes absolutely no sense.

On June 13 2015 07:54 batsnacks wrote:
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On June 13 2015 07:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 07:46 Rels wrote:
On June 13 2015 07:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 07:44 Rels wrote:
On June 13 2015 07:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 07:38 Rels wrote:
On June 13 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:
MoosyDoosy, any thoughts about my case on Rels?

Would love to know that as well.

Rels, did you post while reading the thread or after you read everything?


Why ?

If you mean tonight, I read everything then I posted.

I'm talking about when you first came into the read. Did you post while reading stuff or posted after reading everything?


I read and posted as I found interesting posts.

While the case Trfel seems interesting, I'm not going to vote for you quite yet. It's simple for someone to just notice suspicious stuff while reading which explains the filler before you found the post from Plants. The rest of what Trfel says is interesting tho, so I'd still count you around as a possible Mafia.


Wishy Washy very naughty.


What's this crap?

On June 13 2015 08:02 batsnacks wrote:
K well I have the longest filter now and anyone who thinks mafia batsnacks has the biggest filter d1 is a silly goose and I don't mind getting lynched by silly geese because they can't be reasoned with anyway. So I'm going to go play dwarf fortress.


You made a long filter of low quality posts imo, and then you proclaim you are town because you have the longest filter?

On June 13 2015 08:23 batsnacks wrote:
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On June 13 2015 08:18 Trfel wrote:
On June 13 2015 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 08:11 Trfel wrote:
First, my computer internet died, so I am on my phone.

Second, Moosy, I do think that ruX could be mafia, but I feel that Rels is more likely.

Though I might actually want to lynch bats instead. His quick agreement with me is unexpected, his play doesnt feel like his town meta.


Your case is the best most compelling thing that has been posted yet??? Also you can't meta me remember what happened last time you tried?
Last time I tried was the Ver game and I was right.

I have learned a thing or two since my first game of mafia ever, thank you very much.


You don't have to believe this is my normal town meta because it's not, but you can't believe my scum meta is to post this much. I am a 1 page per day scum poster not a post more than anyone else scum poster.


Again using filter length as argument.

I would agree if you could make a point if you said you were active.
But the fact that you specifically want to refer to having the longest filter is shady.

On June 13 2015 09:27 batsnacks wrote:
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On June 13 2015 09:23 Rels wrote:
And batsnacks, you have very few post worth reading with an enormous filter.

Though I have this feeling: that's weird that everybody is on you. Really, if you're mafia it means that scott, moosy or damdred almost have to be too.

But that doesn't matter atm. Make content and if someone is scummier than you I'll vote that person. That's it.


I have gotten more done than almost the entire game combined, certainly more than you. You have... pushed easy lynch plants and responded to Trfel's case and... that's about all. If I wasn't posting so much the game would be <25% of the current length. Also why damdred? I wish damdred were posting he would tell you to stop voting me because it is literally impossible for me to play this way as mafia.


I don't agree with the bolded parts.
And again refering to length as if that's some measurement of quality posts.

On June 13 2015 11:35 batsnacks wrote:
before I go to sleep though... 21% of this game is my posts! And I'm leading in votes! For SHAME!


On June 13 2015 21:51 batsnacks wrote:
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On June 13 2015 21:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Where is ruxxar? I'm about to hurt some feelings. Dude hasn't re-evaluated his read on me since the beginning of the day. Same with n00b. If either of you are town you are hurting your chances of winning by being so stubborn.



That isn't a scum read. That is me being concerned that ruxxar and n00b are making mistakes that could cost town the game. They should have a dialog with me before the lynch because I'm town and I can convince them I'm town, or at the very least not the best lynch today.

Yes you are guilty of the same I should have included you too. I completely disagree that most of what I've posted is useless I think I have easily contributed more to this game than anyone else, certainly more than you since your biggest contribution is tunneling a town for 70%ish percent of the day all because you didn't like my opening.


Again disagree.

To sum it up:

You basically made a lot of low quality posts, proclaim that you've contributed more than anyone else in the game, and bear your filter length as a town shield in front of you.

My vote still stands.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 13 2015 17:45 GMT
#706
I had lots of good things to say about bats.

I'm not sure how any of what you said makes bats scum?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 17:48 GMT
#707
On June 14 2015 02:31 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 02:22 geript wrote:
Yay. People want to be stupid and lynch me again. This shit so tiring.


I don't think stupidity is the primary reason people want to lynch you.

Stupidity. Not thinking. Relatively the same thing.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 17:50 GMT
#708
That's a really long post for what could be condensed into: you didn't like my opening and you don't consider activity an indicator of my alignment. Activity is highly alignment indicative for me so at least that much is wrong. I think it's okay that you didn't like my opening; I didn't like my opening either.

(this is general advice that you don't have to read but that I think would benefit you if you're interested. you don't have to read it.)
+ Show Spoiler +
When you make a case you should present the condensed version first, then if you're asked to flesh it out you can do that later. Look at Trfel's case on Rels. That is an example of a highly effective case. You shouldn't just do play by play commentary on posts in someone's filter. A good case doesn't have to be long and a huge number of quotes just makes it look padded.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 17:52 GMT
#709
On June 14 2015 02:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 02:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 14 2015 02:22 geript wrote:
Yay. People want to be stupid and lynch me again. This shit so tiring.


I don't think stupidity is the primary reason people want to lynch you.

Stupidity. Not thinking. Relatively the same thing.

I mean you haven't given people a lot to think about so they might not be entirely at fault.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 17:53 GMT
#710
Patently false.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 13 2015 17:53 GMT
#711
On June 14 2015 02:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 02:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 14 2015 02:22 geript wrote:
Yay. People want to be stupid and lynch me again. This shit so tiring.


I don't think stupidity is the primary reason people want to lynch you.

Stupidity. Not thinking. Relatively the same thing.


Not really, you are pretty hard to follow. Your reads don't make a ton of sense,the bickering with wave felt weird and without a real purpose.

You have some real problems.

Why are you voting for sulfur here
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 17:57 GMT
#712
On June 14 2015 02:53 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 02:48 geript wrote:
On June 14 2015 02:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 14 2015 02:22 geript wrote:
Yay. People want to be stupid and lynch me again. This shit so tiring.


I don't think stupidity is the primary reason people want to lynch you.

Stupidity. Not thinking. Relatively the same thing.


Not really, you are pretty hard to follow. Your reads don't make a ton of sense,the bickering with wave felt weird and without a real purpose.

You have some real problems.

Why are you voting for sulfur here

Variety of reasons. His opener was awful. He asks a bunch of questions without relevant opinions. Doesn't seem confident at all. Like I remember when he was answering Oats and made a comment like, "Well I heard when you're getting scumread it's good to quote someone with more thread pull." Like that's really super pussy and fearful. Especially when the reference he was referring to IIRC he was quoting like a newbie early in the game. Just not really applicable.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 17:58 GMT
#713
Also, when in the fuck do I make myself hard to follow as mafia? Like you should know I'm town Damdred.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 17:58 GMT
#714
Oh yah, and when I reread Trfel between coiti he got added into the town list instead of scott
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 18:00 GMT
#715
And wave got added for feels iirc but weekly so. that might have been earlier though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 13 2015 18:02 GMT
#716
Psh me getting your alignment right off the bat should worry you more than me questioning you.

Now can you tell me anything about your other scum reads at all? And why do you dislike Scott here
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 18:03 GMT
#717
btw Sulfurus did not sheep anyone last game and never once voted opportunistically. The main reason sulfurus was lynched last game is because he voted outside of the main wagons, completely independently, two days in a row. He just sort of did his own thing and didn't follow anyone.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 18:08 GMT
#718
On June 14 2015 03:02 Damdred wrote:
Psh me getting your alignment right off the bat should worry you more than me questioning you.

Now can you tell me anything about your other scum reads at all? And why do you dislike Scott here

Don't dislike him. Just some of his posts didn't feel as good and had hints of when I coached him. Just not a townread not a scumread.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 18:08 GMT
#719
Here are the final vote counts from the first two days of newbie X, notice how sulfurus is off doing his own thing:
On May 24 2015 07:04 cakepie wrote:
~ Final Vote Count ~

scott31337 (6) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock (X), Breshke, sicklucker, batsnacks, boxerfred, disformation
disformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspot
plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)
27ninjabunnies (1) : Bill Murray (X), Tictock
batsnacks (1) : sicklucker (X), Sulfurus
Bill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks (X)
Sulfurus (0) : disformation (X)

Not voting (1) : scott31337

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!


+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
  • Bill Murray -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Breshke -> sicklucker
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> Bill Murray
  • Bill Murray -> sicklucker
  • Sulfurus -> Breshke
  • Tictock -> --
  • Bill Murray -> plotspot
  • Tictock -> plotspot
  • Sulfurus -> Bill Murray
  • Barakos -> disformation
  • Breshke -> disformation
  • Rels -> boxerfred
  • Rels -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> --
  • Rels -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • Sulfurus -> --
  • disformation -> Sulfurus
  • 27ninjabunnies -> disformation
  • plotspot -> disformation
  • Tictock -> --
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> scott31337
  • Breshke -> --
  • Breshke -> scott31337
  • sicklucker -> batsnacks
  • sicklucker -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • boxerfred -> scott31337
  • disformation -> scott31337
  • Tictock -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Sulfurus -> batsnacks

On May 27 2015 07:01 -Celestial- wrote:
~ Final Vote Count ~

Bill Murray (5) : sicklucker (X), 27ninjabunnies, batsnacks, boxerfred (X), disformation, Tictock, plotspot
27ninjabunnies (4) : batsnacks (X), sicklucker (X), Breshke (X), disformation (X), Bill Murray, Breshke, Tictock (X), plotspot (X), sicklucker, boxerfred (X), boxerfred
sicklucker (2) : Breshke (X), Tictock (X), disformation (X), Bill Murray (X), boxerfred (X), Sulfurus, Breshke (X), Barakos
Barakos (0) : sicklucker (X)
batsnacks (0) : sicklucker (X)

Currently, Bill Murray is set to be lynched!




+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
  • Breshke -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> sicklucker
  • disformation -> sicklucker
  • sicklucker -> Bill Murray
  • Bill Murray -> sicklucker
  • sicklucker -> --
  • Bill Murray -> --
  • sicklucker -> batsnacks
  • batsnacks -> 27ninjabunnies
  • sicklucker -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Breshke -> 27ninjabunnies
  • disformation -> 27ninjabunnies
  • boxerfred -> sicklucker
  • Bill Murray -> 27ninjabunnies
  • sicklucker -> Barakos
  • Sulfurus -> sicklucker
  • Breshke -> sicklucker
  • Breshke -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Tictock -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Barakos -> sicklucker
  • plotspot -> 27ninjabunnies
  • sicklucker -> 27ninjabunnies
  • boxerfred -> 27ninjabunnies
  • 27ninjabunnies -> Bill Murray
  • batsnacks -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> Bill Murray
  • disformation -> Bill Murray
  • Tictock -> Bill Murray
  • plotspot -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> 27ninjabunnies


Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 13 2015 18:10 GMT
#720
Who else are you scum reading geript
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