Newbie Student Mafia XI - Page 99

On June 19 2015 03:40 ruXxar wrote:


I want to say that I really appreciate you putting in a lot of work rels even if people didn't comment much on it!

Good job

On June 19 2015 05:15 Rels wrote:
Don't have any motivation to do a scott case with 6/8 people on him. Just the voting pattern is enough for me for voting him, and I don't need a case to convince people already voting for him.

I'm gonna sleep now so see you tomorrow. Take care everyone (=

On June 19 2015 03:53 Kickstart wrote:
I dunno I don't see much scum motivation in Damdreds day2 stuff around the sulfurus lynch. Basically said he refused to lynch me when I was probably who scum were going to try for and he was one of the first onto sulf. I mean its possible but if Damdred is scum why doesn't he try to get something going on a townie instead of just hard defending me and immediatly voting his scum buddy. Doesnt make sense to me :/

On June 19 2015 05:40 Rels wrote:
Last thought of the day: this push is too easy. So easy. There is 6 people voting scott, and WOS was here and did nothing to interrupt that: so that's 7 people out of 9, and 2 mafia left. Statistically, there is at least one mafia on these 7, who is currently is not doing anything to make the thread move.

And I can apply this theory for the whole day. Almost nothing happened, and scott was the most likely train from the very beginning. I know for a fact ruxx and Oats were here and did nothing, for example.

So to me everybody is happy with the lynch going this way: town 'cause scott is super scummy, AND mafia.

So it seems that the mafia team is happy with scott going down. It can mean:
- scott is not defendable
- scott is townie

On June 19 2015 05:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

I have a problem with this personally. It makes perfect sense to me for this reason exactly. Damdred could simply be playing the 'solo' mafia and pocketing specific players. A hard defense of a player when no one else is out for it fits the bill pretty well. Especially given that it's the 'strong' players. Did the same for batsnacks.

I actually think Damdred might be scum here. Sitting back completely flying under the radar is NOT how Damdred plays, I just played a game where he was town and I was scum and it was not like this.

I also still need to hear back from Oats regarding my earlier question.

As far as the wagon on Scott I'm not sure how I feel about it.

On June 19 2015 06:12 ruXxar wrote:
I tried the too obvious to be scum approach on sulfur. Didn't get me anywhere.

I'm actually happy to see everyone agree on something for once.
Besides, he still has a lot of time to defend himself, so if he's town I'm sure he'll try his best to put up a good fight for his case.

On June 19 2015 06:14 batsnacks wrote:


Did you read my posts? I thought they were pretty compelling.

On June 19 2015 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I do want to hear your meta on Damdred that you mentioned.

On June 19 2015 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:

I'm not saying Scott is too obvious to be scum, but if everybody is on him like this, I dunno maybe I expected it to be 'more obvious' if that makes sense?
Like I'll admit I haven't read a great deal lately but I haven't found anything massively compelling by skimming.
Hence one of the reasons I feel I've been too lazy and need to start looking deeper. I mean there's also the fact that Scott is only one of two scum if he does flip red.

On June 19 2015 04:41 Kickstart wrote:
He tends to sit back like this. But he does come in when it counts or when there is pressure and does decent then. That is how I felt he did day2 and that is why I like him for now. I would agree that other than the day2 he has been very under the radar but that is exactly how I felt about him in the 1 other games I played with him (thin it was just 1 ) and that is just how he plays. Scott is a good lynch today. My worry is with Oats is that he could be mafia or town and just being lazy, but if we allow him to live to mylo or lylo we are in a real bad spot having to try to read him, whereas almost everyone else would be easier to read at that point I think. That said we still have time and a scott lynch again looks the best to me (I'm about equal on oats vs scott lynch but seems most people arent as sure on an oats lynch as I am).

On June 19 2015 06:30 ruXxar wrote:


I don't know how veteran games are, but I came in here with kind of high expectations, treating everyone with respect, and trying to read what the most optimal mafia play would be.
Granted, this is my first game, so I have very limited experience to draw from, but I think i kinda WIFOMed myself into thinking the game was harder than it was, and in a way that logic became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

On June 19 2015 05:08 batsnacks wrote:


Scott shouldn't waste his time appealing to me, I won't stop voting him for the rest of the game.

On June 19 2015 05:40 Rels wrote:
Last thought of the day: this push is too easy. So easy. There is 6 people voting scott, and WOS was here and did nothing to interrupt that: so that's 7 people out of 9, and 2 mafia left. Statistically, there is at least one mafia on these 7, who is currently is not doing anything to make the thread move.

And I can apply this theory for the whole day. Almost nothing happened, and scott was the most likely train from the very beginning. I know for a fact ruxx and Oats were here and did nothing, for example.

So to me everybody is happy with the lynch going this way: town 'cause scott is super scummy, AND mafia.

So it seems that the mafia team is happy with scott going down. It can mean:
- scott is not defendable
- scott is townie

On June 19 2015 06:14 batsnacks wrote:


Did you read my posts? I thought they were pretty compelling.

On June 19 2015 03:46 batsnacks wrote:
so townies are very likely to be:
Batsnacks
Oats
Ruxxar
Rels
Kickstart
Wave

Mafia is:
Scott
Damdred

If I need to I will make a meta case on Damdred. Did I miss anyone?

On June 19 2015 03:24 batsnacks wrote:
If someone could step in a nod occasionally so that I don't start quintuple posting that would be great.

Thinking about it more, ruxxar is probably town and probably wound up on so many wagons because he is over thinking his first game. He probably discredited my geript read because he saw n00b do it first and thought it would be okay for him to do it. I think all of his scummy actions can be explained in a way that makes sense for town.

Scott on the other hand does not make an appearance in sulfur's filter until 10 minutes before sulfur is about to be lynched. I am starting to like the possibility of sulfur attempting to wifom Scott/oats. Sulfur's read on Damdred is also suspicious.

On June 13 2015 22:42 Damdred wrote:
Yeah bats is a completely stupid lynch, here. (Never use this again bats is to smart a player)

If you look at bats last scum/town games you see a few things crop up.

1) as scum once it's clear that he is going to,be one of,l the leading wagons his care factor diminishes to a few posts randomly complaining without doing anything about it or pushing his own thoughts.

In comparison here he is pushing what he thinks explaining why he's town,and,not giving,up. I liked bats when I first read his filter. He keeps pushing the thread.

2) as scum, he has developed an ability to have weak scum reads to a point.

Here he has well reasoned or seemingly well reasoned reasons for calling people out.

3) resorts to trolling as scum when he's caught.

He's not doing this here.

Bats is town, besides meta. Biggest filter, most controversial figure d1. Okish reads.

Leave the bats alone