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New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!

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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3710 Posts
August 26 2026 20:57 GMT
#28
On August 26 2026 20:15 Navane wrote:
I dont think the super fast moving of the middlemouse button was a bug, it just moves at the speed your screen would move if you drag in the minimap.

When you MMB drag the screen while looking at the minimap it makes a lot of sense. It just saves you from having to move the mouse to the minimap and back, but the drag speed is the same.

It was definitely working as implemented, yes I just don't think the implementation was actually very useful or intuitive in practice, and people expect to be able to adjust the sensitivity of it. In building a better version of it, we've also made some other adjustments to it that I think make it feel better (e.g. now when you drag pan, it will keep your mouse in the same location before/after instead of moving it with the drag). If you do want the old behavior you can simply toggle the new implementation off in settings.

On August 27 2026 01:46 castleeMg wrote:
I think everything about the update looks great but the problem is lack of players and a lack of advertising of the server. I feel like only a handful of players even know that shieldbattery exists. Have you ever considered putting a couple chat bots in the default channels on each server like “brood war Eng-1” to advertise shieldbattery? The only way the server gets any advertisement is on TL or through word of mouth and if no one is really playing on it then the word of mouth aspect is quite non existent as well. Just my thoughts

Yes, but we also want to be good stewards of the community and not spam people with things they don't want

We do have plans/thoughts about more things we can do, I just also want to make sure things are in a good state before we push a lot of new people to try it. This particular update still needs at least one round of fixes before I'd feel comfortable pushing for that (these are basically done now, so we'll likely get them out today).
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States493 Posts
August 27 2026 02:53 GMT
#29
so is this a global match making? let's say I use gearUP vpn to reduce my ping, does that work?
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3710 Posts
August 27 2026 03:17 GMT
#30
On August 27 2026 11:53 ProTech wrote:
so is this a global match making? let's say I use gearUP vpn to reduce my ping, does that work?

It is global matchmaking, yes (with some prioritization for lower latency games). We have our own global network to reduce ping, so using a VPN will likely be strictly worse and is not recommended (especially if the VPN endpoint is far from your actual location)
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
August 27 2026 19:31 GMT
#31
looks like lat fix patch got released
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
felleN
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia101 Posts
August 28 2026 12:30 GMT
#32
This looks awesome! will definitely be trying the BGH ladder out
"I am fucking godly at, like, fucking god. AHHHH" -combatEX
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2407 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-28 21:34:47
August 28 2026 21:34 GMT
#33
Can we get a slider for the drag scroll speed (thats higher than the max now) and reverse direction option on it since its fixed
Progamer
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3710 Posts
August 29 2026 19:22 GMT
#34
On August 29 2026 06:34 Scarlett` wrote:
Can we get a slider for the drag scroll speed (thats higher than the max now) and reverse direction option on it since its fixed

Yep! The next update will have a higher max setting + the option to reverse
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
August 30 2026 23:50 GMT
#35
if u wanna see how the server looks/how things work now:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2860944346

pings been pretty good so far, my upload sucks so getting anything around ~250ms range while im streaming 3v3 bgh vs international players is solid lat for me
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1168 Posts
August 31 2026 04:50 GMT
#36
On August 27 2026 12:17 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2026 11:53 ProTech wrote:
so is this a global match making? let's say I use gearUP vpn to reduce my ping, does that work?

It is global matchmaking, yes (with some prioritization for lower latency games). We have our own global network to reduce ping, so using a VPN will likely be strictly worse and is not recommended (especially if the VPN endpoint is far from your actual location)

unfortunately where I'm at blocks UDP so I am forced to use one in another country

would be amazing to send the packets just marked "TCP" but actually not implement the TCP protocol
Wondrous
Profile Joined February 2024
China1 Post
August 31 2026 08:09 GMT
#37
On August 26 2026 11:40 lamiy1029 wrote:
Why does SB only have the BGH map? It could follow the model of the KK Battle Platform, offering a map pool consisting of BGH, NEO and New Super. Players can ban up to two maps, allowing them to pick the maps they prefer to play.

In fact, the one who plays BGH will only play BGH, and so do Neo and Super.
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
141 Posts
September 01 2026 01:44 GMT
#38
i dont know money maps, what are neo and super?
lamiy1029
Profile Joined August 2026
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-01 08:25:04
September 01 2026 08:24 GMT
#39
On August 31 2026 17:09 Wondrous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2026 11:40 lamiy1029 wrote:
Why does SB only have the BGH map? It could follow the model of the KK Battle Platform, offering a map pool consisting of BGH, NEO and New Super. Players can ban up to two maps, allowing them to pick the maps they prefer to play.

In fact, the one who plays BGH will only play BGH, and so do Neo and Super.


Isn’t that exactly what I’m trying to say? ShieldBattery is mostly for BGH‑style games, which is unfriendly to Neo and Super map players.
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3710 Posts
September 02 2026 02:13 GMT
#40
Listen, if you guys actually want to bring a community over to play, we can add queues for you, but you need to demonstrate that will happen before we do so. We already have largely dead Fastest queues because their community told us they wanted them and then did not actually use them. We can support more queues now thanks to multi-queue, but having 400 different queues that are mostly empty is not a good experience
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
jimmyhons
Profile Joined September 2026
1 Post
September 02 2026 07:40 GMT
#41
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kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1453 Posts
September 06 2026 08:02 GMT
#42
this is a lot better then expected, just need a few more players. latency is really good even with eu/us mixed teams
mada mada dane
JonttuTonttu
Profile Blog Joined November 2018
82 Posts
September 06 2026 23:19 GMT
#43
Awesome stuff you guys are making. I just have one little suggestion if you're open to the idea. Have you considered darkening the blue color of minerals and geysers, that stand on unexplored terrain, on the minimap to a darker shade? I think that would look good because I feel like I would otherwise unconsciously associate the brighter color with important information on par with assets that require my immediate attention. Just a thought.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1168 Posts
September 07 2026 05:19 GMT
#44
On September 02 2026 11:13 tec27 wrote:
Listen, if you guys actually want to bring a community over to play, we can add queues for you, but you need to demonstrate that will happen before we do so. We already have largely dead Fastest queues because their community told us they wanted them and then did not actually use them. We can support more queues now thanks to multi-queue, but having 400 different queues that are mostly empty is not a good experience


if I convince the Chinese community to try SB will you implement fakeTCP?
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3710 Posts
September 07 2026 09:11 GMT
#45
On September 07 2026 14:19 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2026 11:13 tec27 wrote:
Listen, if you guys actually want to bring a community over to play, we can add queues for you, but you need to demonstrate that will happen before we do so. We already have largely dead Fastest queues because their community told us they wanted them and then did not actually use them. We can support more queues now thanks to multi-queue, but having 400 different queues that are mostly empty is not a good experience


if I convince the Chinese community to try SB will you implement fakeTCP?

Having done more research into this, it seems like FakeTCP would likely make the networking situation in China worse, not better. Alongside being very restrictive in how we deploy things (it simply will not work with how we deploy our relay servers today), and with no workable solution on Windows that doesn't involve distributing WinDivert (which registers as malware under many scanners). So no, I don't think FakeTCP is likely something we will implement, I think there are some other potential improvements we might be able to make with regard to China but I'd have to look into them more.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1168 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-07 10:34:14
September 07 2026 10:28 GMT
#46
On September 07 2026 18:11 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2026 14:19 iopq wrote:
On September 02 2026 11:13 tec27 wrote:
Listen, if you guys actually want to bring a community over to play, we can add queues for you, but you need to demonstrate that will happen before we do so. We already have largely dead Fastest queues because their community told us they wanted them and then did not actually use them. We can support more queues now thanks to multi-queue, but having 400 different queues that are mostly empty is not a good experience


if I convince the Chinese community to try SB will you implement fakeTCP?

Having done more research into this, it seems like FakeTCP would likely make the networking situation in China worse, not better. Alongside being very restrictive in how we deploy things (it simply will not work with how we deploy our relay servers today), and with no workable solution on Windows that doesn't involve distributing WinDivert (which registers as malware under many scanners). So no, I don't think FakeTCP is likely something we will implement, I think there are some other potential improvements we might be able to make with regard to China but I'd have to look into them more.


The problem is my ISP simply starts dropping the UDP packets. After a few get through it just starts blocking the port. When I tried changing the port every minute, it blocked every port after 1 hour.

Currently I use a proxy server with Fake ICMP, it would be actually suspicious if anyone cared enough to block it, but the traffic is very little so it works fine.

But having to go through Korea, sometimes it's not very fast to play Chinese players who are also going through Korea. This is a ridiculous situation that everyone is using a proxy through Korea to play people from the same country because of UDP QoS

I use this software:

https://github.com/wangyu-/udp2raw-multiplatform
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3710 Posts
September 07 2026 19:50 GMT
#47
On September 07 2026 19:28 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2026 18:11 tec27 wrote:
On September 07 2026 14:19 iopq wrote:
On September 02 2026 11:13 tec27 wrote:
Listen, if you guys actually want to bring a community over to play, we can add queues for you, but you need to demonstrate that will happen before we do so. We already have largely dead Fastest queues because their community told us they wanted them and then did not actually use them. We can support more queues now thanks to multi-queue, but having 400 different queues that are mostly empty is not a good experience


if I convince the Chinese community to try SB will you implement fakeTCP?

Having done more research into this, it seems like FakeTCP would likely make the networking situation in China worse, not better. Alongside being very restrictive in how we deploy things (it simply will not work with how we deploy our relay servers today), and with no workable solution on Windows that doesn't involve distributing WinDivert (which registers as malware under many scanners). So no, I don't think FakeTCP is likely something we will implement, I think there are some other potential improvements we might be able to make with regard to China but I'd have to look into them more.


The problem is my ISP simply starts dropping the UDP packets. After a few get through it just starts blocking the port. When I tried changing the port every minute, it blocked every port after 1 hour.

Currently I use a proxy server with Fake ICMP, it would be actually suspicious if anyone cared enough to block it, but the traffic is very little so it works fine.

But having to go through Korea, sometimes it's not very fast to play Chinese players who are also going through Korea. This is a ridiculous situation that everyone is using a proxy through Korea to play people from the same country because of UDP QoS

I use this software:

https://github.com/wangyu-/udp2raw-multiplatform

Yes, I think there are probably some other things we can do, but I don't think faking TCP is the right path
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
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