EPTI'd like to hear why you think Dandre's is mafia.
Do you have any reasons besides process of elimination?
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
I'd like to hear why you think Dandre's is mafia. Do you have any reasons besides process of elimination? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
So to re-quote, here is my first post. On June 13 2015 01:44 scott31337 wrote: Good day. I'm at page 16 - So far not liking N00bking for his wordy fluff - and Rels gets a slight townread (even if it's for calling out my replacement). KS and Oats feel are two townies angry at each other. Let me catch up with the rest and a through read. So I make my first post at page 16 catching up with the thread - this is Rels last quote from that page - the timestamp is more important then the quote. On June 13 2015 00:22 Rels wrote: Alright ruxxar I was unsure how to read you. But with this post I now believe you're a super excited townie. I too believe that we should not let mafia the ability to stay silent. So. What do you think of plants first and only post ? So from those posts we see - On June 12 2015 16:45 Rels wrote: Why are you defending him so early. Let him do it himself. A calling out someone defense post on answering others questions - Now that I re-read this post, it's funny how Rels points out a "case" when Sulfurus pointed out a two quote "case" I had myself - and KS did not have a case. (WIFOM such, but interesting to point out after re-reading) And this is the post he pointed out about my replacement - On June 12 2015 17:53 Rels wrote: OK I finally found a mafia. First post of his. Next to last to enter the thread. Just fluff on the first paragraph. What is really scum is the second paragraph. Two points: - He enter the thread late and feels he needs to post an excuse. To me, he had the mindset of entering the thread without saying anything, and apologizing so people like him. - His excuse is false. We all had to confirm yesterday, so that's not possible that he did not check TL the last couple of days, or that he believed that someone else took his spot. Now I do not know what Fake was thinking here, but I saw honest points here - and the people at the time all had to confirm in (boxerfred too?) - this makes logical sense- especially from what I pointed up above now I missed. I replaced out and Rels looks townie from the filter I've read so far - even if he thought my replacement looked bad from the confirmation earlier. That is why I made that post. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 19 2015 14:57 WaveofShadow wrote: LOL Oats. The definition of 'bussing' is to throw your mafia teammate 'under the bus' by getting them lynched. If they are both scum, and Scott is voting for Damdred, by the very definition bussing is EXACTLY what he is doing. Oats why is Damdred scum? Thats not the accepted definition of bus. He just feels like mafia man. Dude you cant just flip your reads every time you feel like tourtering me. | ||
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scott31337
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Trfel
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
I want to see you make a case against both, bring all the dirt you can find and fight for you life! From the way you are posting I don't feel like you are even believing in your own words right now. Where is the passion, where is the anger inside you of being falsely accused of being mafia. Either you show me that or you are toast. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 19 2015 15:23 scott31337 wrote: Wave do you really think Bats is town? Him pushing me for very little reasons has me worried. so bats rather than practically anyone else in the game? Why bats specifically? I havent said a lot. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 19 2015 15:35 ruXxar wrote: Scott, your top scum reads right now are Damdred and bats. I want to see you make a case against both, bring all the dirt you can find and fight for you life! From the way you are posting I don't feel like you are even believing in your own words right now. Where is the passion, where is the anger inside you of being falsely accused of being mafia. Either you show me that or you are toast. Now you sound like Tunnelbats and making ultimatums. I almost was defending you but your point of view is scummy. I do not need to show anger and emotion to get my point across - AoE (appealing to emotion) is often a scummy trait - Bill Murray taught me that - and he's the scummiest player on TL.  <3 BM So what did you not like about my answers to Trfel's case? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 19 2015 15:30 Trfel wrote: Scott31337, I see your post and I'm pretty convinced you are mafia. Not going to argue with you about this any more. I'm sorry you feel this way - Who would you like to lynch tomorrow when I flip town? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 19 2015 16:04 scott31337 wrote: Not sure. I'm also suspecting Oatsmaster, looking through his filter at the moment. And I still need to take a closer look at ruXxar.I'm sorry you feel this way - Who would you like to lynch tomorrow when I flip town? There are a lot of people who seem to be suspicious of Damdred, and I'm waiting for them to really explain why. I don't see many real reasons to suspect Damdred at this point. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
WoS is voting away from me - an intelligent one - ride or die basically with him | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
OBS QT GIVE ME POWER TO SEE THE LIGHT | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
Nothing would help your defense more than that in my eyes. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote: Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game. scumslip. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 19 2015 16:09 Trfel wrote: Not sure. I'm also suspecting Oatsmaster, looking through his filter at the moment. And I still need to take a closer look at ruXxar. There are a lot of people who seem to be suspicious of Damdred, and I'm waiting for them to really explain why. I don't see many real reasons to suspect Damdred at this point. why is damdred town? | ||
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scott31337
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Trfel
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 19 2015 16:29 Trfel wrote: I analyzed Damdred's voting in this post. While the formatting isn't ideal (the formatting emphasized the less important parts), I just don't feel like Damdred's interactions with Sulfurus are sensible for mafia. how should damdred interaction with sulf if hes mafia? Also, why dont you agree that the voting analysis is pretty damn useless. How is the voting analysis useful? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Day 1 Read Progression: Inconsistent, interacted suspiciously with Sulfurus + Show Spoiler + On June 13 2015 11:11 Oatsmaster wrote: btw we still have like a day lol. if bats flips town, ill be going after sulfurus. On June 13 2015 18:40 Oatsmaster wrote: I would lynch geript if we don't lynch bats. What did geript and Sulfurus do in between these two posts? On June 13 2015 15:38 Sulfurus wrote: I would definitely lynch and Kick and I would be fine with a Geript lynch. Wave was very quick and eager to lynch on me and Damdred has posted too little for me to read him as town. And no I don't think Bats has been more town recently at all. On June 13 2015 15:58 Sulfurus wrote: @trfel this post. It made me realize that just because Bats was town last time I tried to lynch doesn't mean it should stop me this time. On June 13 2015 16:00 Sulfurus wrote: Also I feel bad for saying I would lynch Damdred when he hasn't posted much. So now he isn't on my lynch list. Nothing to warrant this change. At the time that Oatsmaster switched from batsnacks to geript, the vote count was as follows: Sulfurus (6): Kickstart, geript, batsnacks, WaveofShadow, scott31337, MoosyDoosy batsnacks (5): [green]n00bKing, ruXxar, Oatsmaster, Sulfurus, Trfel geript (1): Rels By this point, it was starting to look like Sulfurus would be lynched over batsnacks. Here's some of Oatsmaster's discussion with batsnacks after MoosyDoosy voted for Sulfurus (putting him into the lead). No posts are omitted. On June 13 2015 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote: dammit bats I want to lynch mafia today but you are the scummiest. On June 13 2015 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote: argh now i feel like im nitpicking. Ok Ok fine. On June 13 2015 22:17 batsnacks wrote: I never voted him! And I did explain that no one should claim! And I am NOT the scummiest you are just caught in a logical fallacy that I WILL get you out of. On June 13 2015 22:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Here, it feels that Oatsmaster is suggesting lynching geript with batsnacks, who seven minutes ago he said was the scummiest in the thread. And batsnacks made a whole one post in this time.You did. voting thread doesnt count. If we didnt have a voting thead, you wouldve voted. Answer the question. Also, what logical fallacy? That you are useless and are not helping town at all, that you constantly complain about getting scumread and you do nothing but scumread the person everyone else thinks is mafia? Sure, logical fallacy. You would lynch geript? On June 13 2015 22:42 Damdred wrote: With the vote count at 6 to 5 with Sulfurus leading, and the only players not on one of the two wagons (Damdred and Rels) saying they won't lynch batsnacks, it's pretty obvious that batsnacks won't be lynched.Yeah bats is a completely stupid lynch, here. (Never use this again bats is to smart a player) If you look at bats last scum/town games you see a few things crop up. 1) as scum once it's clear that he is going to,be one of,l the leading wagons his care factor diminishes to a few posts randomly complaining without doing anything about it or pushing his own thoughts. In comparison here he is pushing what he thinks explaining why he's town,and,not giving,up. I liked bats when I first read his filter. He keeps pushing the thread. 2) as scum, he has developed an ability to have weak scum reads to a point. Here he has well reasoned or seemingly well reasoned reasons for calling people out. 3) resorts to trolling as scum when he's caught. He's not doing this here. Bats is town, besides meta. Biggest filter, most controversial figure d1. Okish reads. Leave the bats alone Batsnacks and ruXxar say that they are willing to lynch geript, and despite Oatsmaster still talking about how batsnacks' posts are bad, and batsnacks not saying anything useful, Oatsmaster decides to lynch geript with batsnacks. Night 1: False explanation for vote switch from batsnacks to geript + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2015 09:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Let's get moosy tmr On June 14 2015 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Not impressed.I quite like lynching Scot. Because Oatsmaster definitely said that batsnacks looked towny. When he was making posts like these just before switching votes from batsnacks to geript: On June 13 2015 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote: lol everyone is a better lynch than you bats, even me. well intentioned means that it feels like Rels is trying to find mafia. Not very well but still. Every other post of yours is bad bats. ... On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote: Thats like the worst argument in existence. Day 2: Scumreads Sulfurus, tries to lynch anyone else + Show Spoiler + Going into Day 2, Oatsmaster was suspicious of MoosyDoosy, scott31337, Damdred, and Sulfurus. On June 15 2015 08:40 Oatsmaster wrote: that was a pretty bad kill. Why exactly is everyone voting for rels and not sulph? On June 15 2015 20:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Rels just did his go through the thread and reply to every single post thing again. And in the end, I have no idea who he thinks is scum, only numerous townreads. On June 15 2015 21:29 Oatsmaster wrote: So, Oatsmaster says that he doesn't want to lynch Rels, and suggests lynching Sulfurus instead (without voting for Sulfurus). Then he posts some suspicions of Rels. It almost feels like he's giving himself a way to jump to Rels later, if necessary.I mean, it seems really convoluted, the most strategy Ive ever had as scum was to "ok try not to lynch my partners and lynch town". On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote: I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it. What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good. or damdred. On June 16 2015 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Kickstart is pretty damn obviously town and him not doing anything doesn't really diminish his start. Like this is a super easy lynch for scum to push because Kickstart 's attitude sucks and a pretty predictable response will come. Let's lynch ruxxar instead. On June 16 2015 10:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Seriously why the hell is kickstart a better lynch. Can someone like trfel give me one reason that doesn't include the words activity and promises. On June 16 2015 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Damdred, do you want to lynch kickstart or not? On June 16 2015 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote: So, despite scumreading Sulfurus all this time, seeing the wagons being Sulfurus and Kickstart, he doesn't vote. Then he pushes ruXxar, who he never mentioned being scummy so far Day 2 and Night 1. But Oatsmaster didn't actually vote for ruXxar, after a while he switched to Kickstart. Didn't mention Sulfurus throughout all of this.Pretty ok case I guess. Dammit I hate being a wrong but now kickstart actually looks like mafia. It's weird that sulph wants to lynch me rather than kickstart though. Also note: constant scumread of Damdred, but never does anything about it + Show Spoiler + His first mention of Damdred this game. On June 14 2015 15:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Damdred didn't call me town, he's scum. Also that completely pointless list post that has more townreads than scum reads. Sulph / damdred mafia. Scott also maybe. On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote: I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it. What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good. or damdred. On June 17 2015 09:42 Oatsmaster wrote: These are all the times that Oatsmaster references Damdred in the timeframe here.Yeah, sorry Scott, that's not actually a case, just observation. I ddidn't explain my scum reads cause I didn't think it was all that important. Also I totally forgot about Damdred lol. Damdred mafia. Also, I never explained a reason for you to be mafia, so it can't be shit. Damdred should just know better than to townhunt rather than scumhunt After this, Oatsmaster does discuss his scumread of Damdred more, but the fact that he was constantly scumreading Damdred but not saying anything about it is strange. | ||
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