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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 08:00 GMT
#2021
Scott's filter as mafia in newbie VIII
Scott's filter as town in HG

OK I still have the feeling that push is too easy, whatever happen. So I'm gonna read scott's filter in this current game, then I'll read the filters listed above.

If I don't find anything that make me sure scott is mafia, I'll be cool to switch if my vote stay on that list:

On June 18 2015 19:18 Rels wrote:
So crossing the lists, these people has a good chance being mafia:
scott
ruxxar
Damdred
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 19 2015 08:03 GMT
#2022
On June 19 2015 16:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 16:29 Trfel wrote:
On June 19 2015 16:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 19 2015 16:09 Trfel wrote:
On June 19 2015 16:04 scott31337 wrote:
On June 19 2015 15:30 Trfel wrote:
Scott31337, I see your post and I'm pretty convinced you are mafia. Not going to argue with you about this any more.


I'm sorry you feel this way -
Who would you like to lynch tomorrow when I flip town?
Not sure. I'm also suspecting Oatsmaster, looking through his filter at the moment. And I still need to take a closer look at ruXxar.

There are a lot of people who seem to be suspicious of Damdred, and I'm waiting for them to really explain why. I don't see many real reasons to suspect Damdred at this point.

why is damdred town?
I analyzed Damdred's voting in this post. While the formatting isn't ideal (the formatting emphasized the less important parts), I just don't feel like Damdred's interactions with Sulfurus are sensible for mafia.

how should damdred interaction with sulf if hes mafia?

Also, why dont you agree that the voting analysis is pretty damn useless.

How is the voting analysis useful?
Can we agree that Damdred and ruXxar are probably NOT scum together? Reason being that on Day 2, Damdred was pretty clear about lynching between ruXxar and Sulfurus, and I can't see Damdred making his decision between his scum buddies.

Assuming that Kickstart is town (which I think is true based on my previous voting analysis, that mafia had 24 hours of time to make a push but nothing happened), if Damdred is scum, he played like this:
1. Pushing ruXxar with batsnacks, while the alternate wagon is Kickstart
2. Switches wagon from ruXxar to Sulfurus

Which would be pretty darn stupid.

Anyway, I've got a headache, and I think I'll be heading to bed pretty soon.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 19 2015 08:20 GMT
#2023
I dont care about your first point.

What is the relevance of the second point?
Damdred pushed town then switched when it was obvious sulf was going to get lynched lol.

Can you summerize your stuff on me into a few points?

the most obvious one I saw was that I switched off bats for no reason.
Except if bats and geript are both town, then it doesnt matter.

The other one was that I didnt really interact with sulf. I dont see how that makes me scum.
Another one was that I keep calling damdred scum but not doing anything about it. Correct, but damdred hasnt flipped yet so again, no conclusions can be made unless you think that a player calling another player scum but not doing anything about it is inherently scummy.
No gg, No skill.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 08:22 GMT
#2024
On June 14 2015 11:33 scott31337 wrote:
Oh fish ul Votecount


Oatsmaster (0): Kickstart
ruXxar (0): Trfel
Kickstart (0): Sulfurus
Sulfurus (2): Kickstart, geript, batsnacks, WaveOfShadow, scott11331373737373771317371373, MoosyDoosy
Batsnacks (2): n00bKing, ruXxar, Oatsmaster, sulfurus, Rels, Trfel
scott113133373737131731371313713137 (0): Rels
geript (8): WaveofShadow, Rels, Oatsmaster, batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, MoosyDoosy, ruXxar, scott31337
Rels (1): batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, geript, scott11331373737373771317371373

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 20:59 Rels wrote:
Alright I have to go. I will check from my phone from time to time. For now my vote is on geript. May switch to Damdred if he keeps on lurking.

If nobody changes vote and I have to choose between the two wagons I'll vote Sulfu.

##Vote geript


Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 06:13 Rels wrote:
Yo everybody I'm super drunk so I'll post my thoughts and get back to party.

From what I read I'm sure bs and sulfu are both town. Geript is not making sense and didn't answer my question. I think he's mafia so my vote is on the right place.

Damdred stopped lurking and his posts seems townie to me.

From the last post count I m happy to see that my two scumleads are voting for me and geript seems to be the lynch.

Its my last post until tomorrow so take care everyone


Rels -

So Sulfurus made five posts between these two reads - a bad read post on Damdred, and a few posts about lynching Trfel. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486978-newbie-student-mafia-xi?user=Sulfurus

Sulf went from second on your lynch list to "sure town" - Can you inform me how you came to this reasoning? Do you want to lynch Trfel now as well?

@scott: Why did you ask me that question ?
Why did you have the feeling I wanted to lynch Trfel as well?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 19 2015 08:30 GMT
#2025
On June 19 2015 17:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont care about your first point.

What is the relevance of the second point?
Damdred pushed town then switched when it was obvious sulf was going to get lynched lol.

Can you summerize your stuff on me into a few points?

the most obvious one I saw was that I switched off bats for no reason.
Except if bats and geript are both town, then it doesnt matter.

The other one was that I didnt really interact with sulf. I dont see how that makes me scum.
Another one was that I keep calling damdred scum but not doing anything about it. Correct, but damdred hasnt flipped yet so again, no conclusions can be made unless you think that a player calling another player scum but not doing anything about it is inherently scummy.
Numbers 1 and 2 weren't two points. I was using the numbers to represent the order of the thought process that Damdred would need to go through as mafia.

It wasn't obvious that Sulfurus was going to get lynched, and Damdred still had his ruXxar push. He could have tried to keep the lynch between ruXxar and Kickstart, but he didn't. Furthermore, Damdred defended Sulfurus on Day 1. Why would mafia!Damdred defend Sulfurus on Day 1, then bus so readily on Day 2, when it wasn't necessary?

It does matter that you switched off of batsnacks and onto geript suspiciously. Even if both are town, this helped protect Sulfurus.

Then, you falsely explained this vote switch.

And you didn't vote for Sulfurus on Day 2, despite calling him scum all the time except when actually making a push.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 19 2015 08:58 GMT
#2026
I thought geript was scummier than sulf lol.
What falsely explained vote switch? Do I have to post then I change my mind?
I didnt need to convince people that bats was town.

I dont like voting threads.

Btw, the first point was
Can we agree that Damdred and ruXxar are probably NOT scum together? Reason being that on Day 2, Damdred was pretty clear about lynching between ruXxar and Sulfurus, and I can't see Damdred making his decision between his scum buddies

Nope.

Lol it was totally obvious that sulph was gonna get lynched.
Damdred barely dfended sulf unless calling sulf null rather than scum is defending.
No gg, No skill.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 09:19 GMT
#2027
On June 19 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:
Scott's filter as mafia in newbie VIII
Scott's filter as town in HG

OK I still have the feeling that push is too easy, whatever happen. So I'm gonna read scott's filter in this current game, then I'll read the filters listed above.

If I don't find anything that make me sure scott is mafia, I'll be cool to switch if my vote stay on that list:

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 19:18 Rels wrote:
So crossing the lists, these people has a good chance being mafia:
scott
ruxxar
Damdred

OK did this. Didn't have a revelation but I'm more confident lynching scott now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 09:26 GMT
#2028
I remarked two things reading these filters:
1 - filter size; scott's filter this game is almost the same as his mafia game in newbie VIII. In his town game, his filter day 3 was longer.
2 - scott was lynched last day in his townie game. I have the feeling that his defense of himself was more emotional than in this game.

Voilà! I was looking for reasons scott should be town and didn't find them. The reasons above are not great, but it's a little more suspicions of scott when I already have plenty.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 09:53 GMT
#2029
@Scott Did Damdred afk like that in Holy Gardians ?
In particular, did I ever afk 36 hours in a row ?
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 19 2015 11:19 GMT
#2030
On June 19 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:
Scott's filter as mafia in newbie VIII
Scott's filter as town in HG

OK I still have the feeling that push is too easy, whatever happen. So I'm gonna read scott's filter in this current game, then I'll read the filters listed above.

If I don't find anything that make me sure scott is mafia, I'll be cool to switch if my vote stay on that list:

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 19:18 Rels wrote:
So crossing the lists, these people has a good chance being mafia:
scott
ruxxar
Damdred

hsh
I see you linking my filters but not reaching to any conclusions - am I mafia?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 11:22 GMT
#2031
On June 19 2015 20:19 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:
Scott's filter as mafia in newbie VIII
Scott's filter as town in HG

OK I still have the feeling that push is too easy, whatever happen. So I'm gonna read scott's filter in this current game, then I'll read the filters listed above.

If I don't find anything that make me sure scott is mafia, I'll be cool to switch if my vote stay on that list:

On June 18 2015 19:18 Rels wrote:
So crossing the lists, these people has a good chance being mafia:
scott
ruxxar
Damdred

hsh
I see you linking my filters but not reaching to any conclusions - am I mafia?

Read them and I saw very similar styles, except for size where it's hugely different. Would love someone like Trfel, WOS or batsnacks to read them and tell me their thought though.

Didn't find the revelation that you were town, and that's what I was looking for.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 11:23 GMT
#2032
On June 19 2015 20:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 20:19 scott31337 wrote:
On June 19 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:
Scott's filter as mafia in newbie VIII
Scott's filter as town in HG

OK I still have the feeling that push is too easy, whatever happen. So I'm gonna read scott's filter in this current game, then I'll read the filters listed above.

If I don't find anything that make me sure scott is mafia, I'll be cool to switch if my vote stay on that list:

On June 18 2015 19:18 Rels wrote:
So crossing the lists, these people has a good chance being mafia:
scott
ruxxar
Damdred

hsh
I see you linking my filters but not reaching to any conclusions - am I mafia?

Read them and I saw very similar styles, except for size where it's hugely different. Would love someone like Trfel, WOS or batsnacks to read them and tell me their thought though.

Didn't find the revelation that you were town, and that's what I was looking for.

Maybe you can do it and point me how these filters mean you're town and not mafia, 'cause I didn't find it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 11:24 GMT
#2033
In the meantime can you answer these ?

On June 19 2015 17:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 11:33 scott31337 wrote:
Oh fish ul Votecount


Oatsmaster (0): Kickstart
ruXxar (0): Trfel
Kickstart (0): Sulfurus
Sulfurus (2): Kickstart, geript, batsnacks, WaveOfShadow, scott11331373737373771317371373, MoosyDoosy
Batsnacks (2): n00bKing, ruXxar, Oatsmaster, sulfurus, Rels, Trfel
scott113133373737131731371313713137 (0): Rels
geript (8): WaveofShadow, Rels, Oatsmaster, batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, MoosyDoosy, ruXxar, scott31337
Rels (1): batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, geript, scott11331373737373771317371373

On June 13 2015 20:59 Rels wrote:
Alright I have to go. I will check from my phone from time to time. For now my vote is on geript. May switch to Damdred if he keeps on lurking.

If nobody changes vote and I have to choose between the two wagons I'll vote Sulfu.

##Vote geript


On June 14 2015 06:13 Rels wrote:
Yo everybody I'm super drunk so I'll post my thoughts and get back to party.

From what I read I'm sure bs and sulfu are both town. Geript is not making sense and didn't answer my question. I think he's mafia so my vote is on the right place.

Damdred stopped lurking and his posts seems townie to me.

From the last post count I m happy to see that my two scumleads are voting for me and geript seems to be the lynch.

Its my last post until tomorrow so take care everyone


Rels -

So Sulfurus made five posts between these two reads - a bad read post on Damdred, and a few posts about lynching Trfel. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486978-newbie-student-mafia-xi?user=Sulfurus

Sulf went from second on your lynch list to "sure town" - Can you inform me how you came to this reasoning? Do you want to lynch Trfel now as well?

@scott: Why did you ask me that question ?
Why did you have the feeling I wanted to lynch Trfel as well?


On June 19 2015 18:53 Rels wrote:
@Scott Did Damdred afk like that in Holy Gardians ?
In particular, did I ever afk 36 hours in a row ?

ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 19 2015 13:14 GMT
#2034
On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote:
Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.



I can't interpret this post any other way than you being mafia Scott.
I'm sorry.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 13:17 GMT
#2035
On June 19 2015 22:14 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 16:08 scott31337 wrote:
Every newbie game I had a coach I was mafia
I need to play a game with a coach as town - I did okay by myself in Guardians but I still lost the game.



I can't interpret this post any other way than you being mafia Scott.
I'm sorry.

Explain to me then, 'cause i don't see it.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 19 2015 13:27 GMT
#2036
He says he's never played a newbie game as town.

Unless there are newbie games without coaches?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 13:30 GMT
#2037
is it too early for me to start flexing?

*bat-flex*
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2015 13:33 GMT
#2038
Fuck you're right.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix#3

He played on newbie IX as a newbie, so he had a coach for sure.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 19 2015 13:34 GMT
#2039
Do you have any more pro tips on food?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 19 2015 13:42 GMT
#2040
On June 19 2015 22:34 ruXxar wrote:
Do you have any more pro tips on food?


1. Put ramen in bowl
2. Put scrambled egg on ramen
3. Put bowl under coffee maker; 2 cups of water
4. Stir in flavor

Optional: make grilled cheese with iron

Hotel food that doesn't cost 50$ per meal.
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