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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-21 11:31:39
August 21 2025 11:24 GMT
#1
We're back boys and girls!

The studio behind Iron Harvest was given the DoW franchise and they've been cooking. Slated to release next year they dropped the trailer and gave early access demo to some people. So far all the reviews have been extremely positive.

Trailer:


Early demo review:


Developer interview:


I have to say I haven't been more hyped for a game in a very long time.

Some features:

4 playable races at launch (SM, AdMech, Orks, Necrons).
4 separate campaigns forming an overarching story (written by established GW author John French).
Multiplayer with ranked and custom games, Last Stand mode too.
Seems like a mix of best features from DoW 1 & 2.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10104 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 01:14:31
August 22 2025 01:14 GMT
#2
wow looks amazing! already wishlisted
thanks Manit0u
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
August 22 2025 05:43 GMT
#3
Yeah, it's shaping up to be the best RTS in a long time.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5755 Posts
August 22 2025 10:26 GMT
#4
I can't see it becoming a major competitive RTS, tbh. Four races is a lot to balance. Adding more in expansions would be a nightmare. But we'll see.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1865 Posts
August 22 2025 10:39 GMT
#5
On August 22 2025 19:26 maybenexttime wrote:
I can't see it becoming a major competitive RTS, tbh. Four races is a lot to balance. Adding more in expansions would be a nightmare. But we'll see.

WC3 is relatively balanced and all races won major tournaments back in the day.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5755 Posts
August 22 2025 11:05 GMT
#6
On August 22 2025 19:39 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 19:26 maybenexttime wrote:
I can't see it becoming a major competitive RTS, tbh. Four races is a lot to balance. Adding more in expansions would be a nightmare. But we'll see.

WC3 is relatively balanced and all races won major tournaments back in the day.

Wasn't Undead underperforming most of WC3's history? IIRC, there were a couple of Undead players who were winning major tournaments (MaDFroG comes to mind), whereas other races had a wide cast of well performing players.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-25 14:04:37
August 22 2025 13:28 GMT
#7
On August 22 2025 20:05 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2025 19:39 CicadaSC wrote:
On August 22 2025 19:26 maybenexttime wrote:
I can't see it becoming a major competitive RTS, tbh. Four races is a lot to balance. Adding more in expansions would be a nightmare. But we'll see.

WC3 is relatively balanced and all races won major tournaments back in the day.

Wasn't Undead underperforming most of WC3's history? IIRC, there were a couple of Undead players who were winning major tournaments (MaDFroG comes to mind), whereas other races had a wide cast of well performing players.


There were times when some races were more dominant than others but typically each race could win at the highest level. It's often down to player skill alone (like Happy dominating WC3 as Undead for a long time now even though other UD players aren't faring as good). Sometimes there's also a period when a new dominant strat is introduced and it takes players a while to figure it out and stop the onslaught (like the recent pally/rifle for HU owning everything).

Overall the balance is fairly good in WC3.

Dawn of War 1 had 9 playable factions and there weren't that many imbalances.
[image loading]

Dawn of War 2 had 6 factions and the balance wasn't terrible either.

I also think that balancing so many factions is super difficult but I guess that if you have that many factions your goal in balancing is to simply not make one faction good vs all the others, this way even if you do have favorable matchups you also have some unfavorable ones so it balances itself out. Just need minor tweaks then so it's never a completely one sided roflstomp even in favored vs unfavored matchup. No need to go for perfect win ratio between all the factions.

And I don't know why you can't see it becoming a competitive RTS. DoW2 had a tournament match posted on YouTube no longer than 22 hours ago as of me posting this. The competitive scene for it isn't big but it's there and has been active for the past 16 years. I don't see a reason why DoW 4 can't also have a competitive scene if it's a well made game.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 15:42:53
August 22 2025 15:27 GMT
#8
What is Last Stand mode?

Looks promising all-round anyway!

Any 40K game almost automatically gets a +1 from me to its rating. A weakness of mine.

But I think a good central gameplay loop, fun campaigns and multiplayer that’s at least decent, even if it’s not gonna replace Blizz games in my affection would be a pretty good result all-round
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 15:58:10
August 22 2025 15:53 GMT
#9
On August 23 2025 00:27 WombaT wrote:
What is Last Stand mode?


In DoW2 it was 3 players PvE, each controlling a single hero and fighting waves of tougher and tougher enemies including boss rounds. You got to score points there (for rankings potentially) and also got xp so your hero "leveled up" (no stats increases or anything but you did meta-progression by unlocking more wargear options which changed your heroes stats and gave them different abilities so you could customize your hero in a myriad different ways - customization was before the game starts so once the game starts you're locked in to your build).

Cool and fun stuff, was quite popular and a lot of epic moments.

I remember once I built my hero to be high single target dps, for sniping big baddies but then there's one round where you're fighting your clones and if we didn't gank my clone first it would one-shot us all
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33559 Posts
August 22 2025 18:06 GMT
#10
On August 23 2025 00:53 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 00:27 WombaT wrote:
What is Last Stand mode?


In DoW2 it was 3 players PvE, each controlling a single hero and fighting waves of tougher and tougher enemies including boss rounds. You got to score points there (for rankings potentially) and also got xp so your hero "leveled up" (no stats increases or anything but you did meta-progression by unlocking more wargear options which changed your heroes stats and gave them different abilities so you could customize your hero in a myriad different ways - customization was before the game starts so once the game starts you're locked in to your build).

Cool and fun stuff, was quite popular and a lot of epic moments.

I remember once I built my hero to be high single target dps, for sniping big baddies but then there's one round where you're fighting your clones and if we didn't gank my clone first it would one-shot us all


nice, sounds like good news for co-op fans ^_^
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-22 22:14:32
August 22 2025 22:12 GMT
#11
On August 23 2025 03:06 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2025 00:53 Manit0u wrote:
On August 23 2025 00:27 WombaT wrote:
What is Last Stand mode?


In DoW2 it was 3 players PvE, each controlling a single hero and fighting waves of tougher and tougher enemies including boss rounds. You got to score points there (for rankings potentially) and also got xp so your hero "leveled up" (no stats increases or anything but you did meta-progression by unlocking more wargear options which changed your heroes stats and gave them different abilities so you could customize your hero in a myriad different ways - customization was before the game starts so once the game starts you're locked in to your build).

Cool and fun stuff, was quite popular and a lot of epic moments.

I remember once I built my hero to be high single target dps, for sniping big baddies but then there's one round where you're fighting your clones and if we didn't gank my clone first it would one-shot us all


nice, sounds like good news for co-op fans ^_^


There's also co-op campaign (not sure how this works but it's supposed to be there).

One thing that kinda blows my mind when I think about it is that they've made sync animations for close combat for every unit fighting every other unit (so your close combat will look different depending on what's fighting what).

Like this tomb spyder climbing the dreadnaught arm:
[image loading]


This is going to be awesome from the spectator point of view or when making montage videos.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
September 29 2025 03:35 GMT
#12
We've got a first in-engine footage trailer:

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7088 Posts
September 29 2025 10:44 GMT
#13
Looks cool! Will be following the development closely
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8639 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-29 18:46:44
September 29 2025 18:43 GMT
#14
Yeah, looks pretty good actually. I hope I can revise my statement about this becoming another failure.

On August 23 2025 07:12 Manit0u wrote:

There's also co-op campaign (not sure how this works but it's supposed to be there).


But there was a coop campaign in DoW2 already. I assume it will be similar. At least that's what I'm hoping because it was literally the only thing DoW2 had going for it.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17267 Posts
September 29 2025 19:13 GMT
#15
Go King Art Games Go!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12683 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-30 07:23:02
September 30 2025 07:22 GMT
#16
love all the practical effects etc. can't wait.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17267 Posts
September 30 2025 13:18 GMT
#17
King Art Games made Battleworld Kronos 13 years ago. If you like Advance Wars you might like BWK. It is on sale on Steam for $4. For such an old game it does not go on sale very often.
To get an idea of the talent level of King Art Games....check it out.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/237470/Battle_Worlds_Kronos/
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Kaw
Profile Joined February 2011
United States74 Posts
October 01 2025 22:59 GMT
#18
They had an AMA on their discord.

Ok, buckle up 😉 In general, melee combat is kind of a big deal in DoW4. Units that focus on melee always have the disadvantage that they must reach the enemy before they can deal significant amounts of damage. To make them competitive, melee units on average deal more damage. But we also gave them the ability to “bind” enemies in melee. When units fight in melee they kind of “stick” together as long as one of the participating units wants to stay in melee (e.g. a weaker range unit can’t just run away, the melee units tries to keep them engaged).


Copying the Realms of Ruin melee lock mechanic is certainly a choice. Please tell me I'm misreading this.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-02 11:00:16
October 02 2025 10:57 GMT
#19
On October 02 2025 07:59 Kaw wrote:
They had an AMA on their discord.

Show nested quote +
Ok, buckle up 😉 In general, melee combat is kind of a big deal in DoW4. Units that focus on melee always have the disadvantage that they must reach the enemy before they can deal significant amounts of damage. To make them competitive, melee units on average deal more damage. But we also gave them the ability to “bind” enemies in melee. When units fight in melee they kind of “stick” together as long as one of the participating units wants to stay in melee (e.g. a weaker range unit can’t just run away, the melee units tries to keep them engaged).


Copying the Realms of Ruin melee lock mechanic is certainly a choice. Please tell me I'm misreading this.


Well, that has also been a part of Dawn of War since forever. If you engage in melee you typically can't just run away as easily because members of the unit get stuck in animation locks, knocked down, move slower etc.

Nothing new really.

And it also presents some interesting strategy choices. If you're heavily outgunned you can force one of your weaker shooting units to engage stronger shooting unit in melee and thus reduce your casualties etc.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8708 Posts
October 02 2025 11:15 GMT
#20
liked the single player campaigns immensely. the universe is hilariously silly and good fun.
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