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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 13 2015 00:10 GMT
#581
@Rels, any comments on my posts? Still confused why you don't think I'm townie.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 13 2015 00:11 GMT
#582
On June 13 2015 09:07 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 09:00 Rels wrote:
On June 13 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
Trfel's case is still good but I'm now voting sulfur for misrepresenting my play last game (twice) and now voting me opportunistically.

##unvote
##vote Sulfurus

If it was any other person I would have agree with you about voting opportunistically.
But Sulfu played exactly like that last game. And I don't think he misreprented your plays. Last game D1 you didn't do a whole lot either if I remember correctly. In both game you also posted a nonsense post to gauge reactions.


You just voted me for saying something you agree with!!!

Yeah I would have agreed if someone else voted you like that. But Sulfu did that day 1 last game. On Breshke and SL.

Maybe the fact that you are pressured so much makes you not think. Did you hard vote Sulfu, or was that a OMGUS sort of vote ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 13 2015 00:14 GMT
#583
On June 13 2015 09:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Rels, any comments on my posts? Still confused why you don't think I'm townie.

OK sorry in advance, but in my mind it's actually pretty good where you're at. I was so sure you were mafia with your first post that me imagining you at null read is a pretty good deal. When I made this post with the two points I was thinking I was going to destroy you. I think I was clouded by my first impression of you.

You won't ever be a town lean in my mind until you either make a case on someone and defend it, or sheep a case on someone and explain why. Not taking stances = I can't judge you 100%.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 00:15 GMT
#584
On June 13 2015 09:11 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 09:07 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 09:00 Rels wrote:
On June 13 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
Trfel's case is still good but I'm now voting sulfur for misrepresenting my play last game (twice) and now voting me opportunistically.

##unvote
##vote Sulfurus

If it was any other person I would have agree with you about voting opportunistically.
But Sulfu played exactly like that last game. And I don't think he misreprented your plays. Last game D1 you didn't do a whole lot either if I remember correctly. In both game you also posted a nonsense post to gauge reactions.


You just voted me for saying something you agree with!!!

Yeah I would have agreed if someone else voted you like that. But Sulfu did that day 1 last game. On Breshke and SL.

Maybe the fact that you are pressured so much makes you not think. Did you hard vote Sulfu, or was that a OMGUS sort of vote ?


It doesn't matter since you appear to agree with the vote???

And no sulfur didn't do anything like this last game sulfur was not on anyone's radar seriously until the end of the game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 13 2015 00:19 GMT
#585
On June 13 2015 09:15 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 09:11 Rels wrote:
On June 13 2015 09:07 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 09:00 Rels wrote:
On June 13 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
Trfel's case is still good but I'm now voting sulfur for misrepresenting my play last game (twice) and now voting me opportunistically.

##unvote
##vote Sulfurus

If it was any other person I would have agree with you about voting opportunistically.
But Sulfu played exactly like that last game. And I don't think he misreprented your plays. Last game D1 you didn't do a whole lot either if I remember correctly. In both game you also posted a nonsense post to gauge reactions.


You just voted me for saying something you agree with!!!

Yeah I would have agreed if someone else voted you like that. But Sulfu did that day 1 last game. On Breshke and SL.

Maybe the fact that you are pressured so much makes you not think. Did you hard vote Sulfu, or was that a OMGUS sort of vote ?


It doesn't matter since you appear to agree with the vote???

And no sulfur didn't do anything like this last game sulfur was not on anyone's radar seriously until the end of the game.

What do you mean I agree with the vote ? Please explain 'cause I have the impression we're taking about different things.

About Sulfu, yes he is perceived differently this game. I am too. But I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the frequency and the way to post. That, I feel is similar to you.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 13 2015 00:20 GMT
#586
On June 13 2015 09:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 09:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Rels, any comments on my posts? Still confused why you don't think I'm townie.

OK sorry in advance, but in my mind it's actually pretty good where you're at. I was so sure you were mafia with your first post that me imagining you at null read is a pretty good deal. When I made this post with the two points I was thinking I was going to destroy you. I think I was clouded by my first impression of you.

You won't ever be a town lean in my mind until you either make a case on someone and defend it, or sheep a case on someone and explain why. Not taking stances = I can't judge you 100%.

Unfortunately I'm trying to be careful with my vote so it looks like that won't happen anytime soon. -.- At least I'm glad to see you're finally starting to realize I'm a townie.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
June 13 2015 00:22 GMT
#587
On June 13 2015 08:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
^ I'm talking about this. You clearly haven't read the thread.

You said you defended him first. The posts of yours that you just quoted are several hours after mine.

Anyway, I'm not going to continue bickering with you about this, as I do not find the discussion to be productive. You said what you said, I showed it to be false. And now I'm moving on.
Sulfurus
Profile Joined May 2015
United States166 Posts
June 13 2015 00:22 GMT
#588
@Moosy you probably missed it but n00b was defending ruXx as early as page 9
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 13 2015 00:23 GMT
#589
And batsnacks, you have very few post worth reading with an enormous filter.

Though I have this feeling: that's weird that everybody is on you. Really, if you're mafia it means that scott, moosy or damdred almost have to be too.

But that doesn't matter atm. Make content and if someone is scummier than you I'll vote that person. That's it.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 13 2015 00:25 GMT
#590
On June 13 2015 09:22 Sulfurus wrote:
@Moosy you probably missed it but n00b was defending ruXx as early as page 9

Oh great, we have the same line of reasoning. If he thinks I'm Mafia that means he is too right?

##vote n00bking
##vote MoosyDoosy
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 13 2015 00:25 GMT
#591
I kinda think bats is town though.

I need to be on a comp to explain I think he's a horrible lynch
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 13 2015 00:27 GMT
#592
On June 13 2015 09:23 Rels wrote:
And batsnacks, you have very few post worth reading with an enormous filter.

Though I have this feeling: that's weird that everybody is on you. Really, if you're mafia it means that scott, moosy or damdred almost have to be too.

But that doesn't matter atm. Make content and if someone is scummier than you I'll vote that person. That's it.

Reasoning for us three?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 00:27 GMT
#593
On June 13 2015 09:23 Rels wrote:
And batsnacks, you have very few post worth reading with an enormous filter.

Though I have this feeling: that's weird that everybody is on you. Really, if you're mafia it means that scott, moosy or damdred almost have to be too.

But that doesn't matter atm. Make content and if someone is scummier than you I'll vote that person. That's it.


I have gotten more done than almost the entire game combined, certainly more than you. You have... pushed easy lynch plants and responded to Trfel's case and... that's about all. If I wasn't posting so much the game would be <25% of the current length. Also why damdred? I wish damdred were posting he would tell you to stop voting me because it is literally impossible for me to play this way as mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 13 2015 00:27 GMT
#594
Alright really going to sleep now. See you all later (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 13 2015 00:28 GMT
#595
On June 13 2015 09:27 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 09:23 Rels wrote:
And batsnacks, you have very few post worth reading with an enormous filter.

Though I have this feeling: that's weird that everybody is on you. Really, if you're mafia it means that scott, moosy or damdred almost have to be too.

But that doesn't matter atm. Make content and if someone is scummier than you I'll vote that person. That's it.


I have gotten more done than almost the entire game combined, certainly more than you. You have... pushed easy lynch plants and responded to Trfel's case and... that's about all. If I wasn't posting so much the game would be <25% of the current length. Also why damdred? I wish damdred were posting he would tell you to stop voting me because it is literally impossible for me to play this way as mafia.

Cool. Then tomorrow I'll reconsider.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
June 13 2015 00:34 GMT
#596
On June 13 2015 09:03 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 09:00 Rels wrote:
Last game D1 you didn't do a whole lot either if I remember correctly. In both game you also posted a nonsense post to gauge reactions.

Yeah you're totally wrong and that is points against you. The only time I posted nonsense that game was at night and that's because I was the cop and did not want to get killed.

Definitely not true. I expect he is talking about this steaming pile here, which was posted early in Day 1, and not at night:

batsnacks wrote:
above is THE JOYOUS, LAKE
below is KEEPING STILL, MOUNTAIN

Influence. Success.

When a weak element is above (the lake) and a strong element is below (the mountain), their powers attract each other so that they unite. This brings about success, for all success depends on the effect of mutual attraction

Perseverance furthers.

By keeping still within while experiencing joy without, one can prevent the joy from going to excess and hold it within proper bounds. This is the meaning of, "Perseverance furthers."

To take a maiden to wife brings good fortune

Heaven and earth attract each other and thus all creatures come into being. From the attractions they exert we can learn the nature of all beings in heaven and on earth.

A lake on the mountain:
The image of influence.
Thus the superior man encourages people to approach him
By his readiness to receive them.

A mountain with a lake on its summit is stimulated by the moisture from the lake. It has this advantage because its summit does not jut out as a peak but is sunken. The image counsels that the mind should be kept humble and free, so that it may remain receptive to good advice. People soon give up counseling a man who thinks that he knows everything better than anyone else.

The influence shows itself in the calves of the legs.
Misfortune.
Tarrying brings good fortune.

In movement, the calf of the leg follows the foot; by itself it can neither go forward nor stand still. Since the movement is not self-governed, it bodes ill. One should wait quietly until one is impelled to action by a real influence. Then one remains uninjured.


Your philosophical post about danger in this game looks a bit like a forced attempt to duplicate the same kind of nonsense you kicked off the last game with (since it was very recent, and people will remember you were Town).

Meanwhile, you never answered my question about approximately how many times you've been assigned a scum role in these games.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 13 2015 00:37 GMT
#597
On June 13 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
I kinda think bats is town though.

I need to be on a comp to explain I think he's a horrible lynch

Still on phone atm but I'm feeling this too. I like the pressure he's under though because it's revealed some interesting things I'll post about soon
Bats gets all terribke and grovelly as town, I've seen it a couple times before.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 00:39 GMT
#598
On June 13 2015 09:34 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 09:03 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 09:00 Rels wrote:
Last game D1 you didn't do a whole lot either if I remember correctly. In both game you also posted a nonsense post to gauge reactions.

Yeah you're totally wrong and that is points against you. The only time I posted nonsense that game was at night and that's because I was the cop and did not want to get killed.

Definitely not true. I expect he is talking about this steaming pile here, which was posted early in Day 1, and not at night:

Show nested quote +
batsnacks wrote:
above is THE JOYOUS, LAKE
below is KEEPING STILL, MOUNTAIN

Influence. Success.

When a weak element is above (the lake) and a strong element is below (the mountain), their powers attract each other so that they unite. This brings about success, for all success depends on the effect of mutual attraction

Perseverance furthers.

By keeping still within while experiencing joy without, one can prevent the joy from going to excess and hold it within proper bounds. This is the meaning of, "Perseverance furthers."

To take a maiden to wife brings good fortune

Heaven and earth attract each other and thus all creatures come into being. From the attractions they exert we can learn the nature of all beings in heaven and on earth.

A lake on the mountain:
The image of influence.
Thus the superior man encourages people to approach him
By his readiness to receive them.

A mountain with a lake on its summit is stimulated by the moisture from the lake. It has this advantage because its summit does not jut out as a peak but is sunken. The image counsels that the mind should be kept humble and free, so that it may remain receptive to good advice. People soon give up counseling a man who thinks that he knows everything better than anyone else.

The influence shows itself in the calves of the legs.
Misfortune.
Tarrying brings good fortune.

In movement, the calf of the leg follows the foot; by itself it can neither go forward nor stand still. Since the movement is not self-governed, it bodes ill. One should wait quietly until one is impelled to action by a real influence. Then one remains uninjured.


Your philosophical post about danger in this game looks a bit like a forced attempt to duplicate the same kind of nonsense you kicked off the last game with (since it was very recent, and people will remember you were Town).

Meanwhile, you never answered my question about approximately how many times you've been assigned a scum role in these games.


I have been playing TL mafia for a -long- time, only 1 mod on this site (and I don't even know if he's still a mod) knows how long. I have no idea how many times I've rolled scum. Also I only provide iching commentary when I'm town so I thank you for bringing this up.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 13 2015 01:22 GMT
#599
K stuff I remember while reading earlier:
Geript might not be scum. At the very least I give him more time. Especially since nobody seems to want to comment on what I've brought and those who have have been completely noncomittal. Givin' me the jibblies.
##unvote: Geript

Trfel's posting looked pretty good at first glance. Liked the stuff he picked up on Rels. I want to do a once-over just to see any surface similarities between here and the last game I played with him (I think I was scum in that one) and see if anything jumps out at me either meta- or otherwise.

Sulf still looks like ass balls. Probably primary lynch for me right now.
##Vote: Sulfurus
On June 13 2015 08:24 Sulfurus wrote:
To start off I think n00bKing is the towniest person in this game period. Almost all of his posts are there to benefit town with either advice or very good questioning and again I think his reasoning on ruXxar is spot on (and much better then what Kick has said). So fmpov this make ruXx look really good and bats/kick look terrible (ruxx has also done a lot since that looks really towny in my eyes whereas kick and bats haven't).

Moving on there is also the whole conflict between Wave and Geript caused by his shitty read on Moosy (which was sheeped by Bats even though geript himself has changed his mind). I think this interaction makes Wave look pretty good and bats once again doesn't however he has since changed his vote to Rels.

Speaking of which the reason he is even voting Rels is because of a read by Trfel (looking back he was also one of the first to push scum on ruXx).

So they may not be the strongest town reads on those I called town but I think you guys are right and bats really is playing differently this game.

##Vote: Batsnacks

Like what IS this? Reiteration of stuff I already said, townreading me for no explained reason, opportunistic bats vote after being completely noncomittal about it earlier, and also while possibly attempting to pocket noob?
I dunno somebody mentioned that Sulfurus' meta is to post kinda shitty but I can honestly say I don't care about that here. Scummy posting is scummy.

On June 13 2015 08:02 batsnacks wrote:
K well I have the longest filter now and anyone who thinks mafia batsnacks has the biggest filter d1 is a silly goose and I don't mind getting lynched by silly geese because they can't be reasoned with anyway. So I'm going to go play dwarf fortress.

Hated this post because it reads as though batsnacks was simply aiming for this the entire time. Wouldn't vote him because of it but ugh city.

On June 13 2015 08:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 08:07 n00bKing wrote:
On June 13 2015 07:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 13 2015 07:54 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 07:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
While the case Trfel seems interesting, I'm not going to vote for you quite yet. It's simple for someone to just notice suspicious stuff while reading which explains the filler before you found the post from Plants. The rest of what Trfel says is interesting tho, so I'd still count you around as a possible Mafia.

Wishy Washy very naughty.

eh, not wishy washy. I initially thought that Rels was a townie and didn't suspect him. What Trfel says is very interesting and would be a very hard read on him but I don't feel it's concrete enough to vote for him right off the bat. It does raise some yellow flags around him tho.

This is STILL wishy-washy.

Side note: I think the fact that Rels jumped right into the thread and started responding to posts in order (without reading the entire thread first) is slightly Town-indicative. I don't think it's a GOOD habit to have, but I don't think it's something a Mafia player would do. And I could tell that's what he had done even before he admitted that's what he had done.

Lol, if you think a slight change in opinion is wishy washy then I guess I can never change my opinion or stance in the future.

Yuuuppppp
Loving Moosy for this really. For the record I believe 'wishy-washy' on its own is a horrible scumtell. It's completely circumstantial and Moosy's play is pretty consistent although his continued attempts to purposefully draw attention to how inexperienced he is is starting to annoy me. We get it Moose, you're new. Just play the game now.

The pressure batsnacks is under brought Rels to the surface. I don't know if anything more needs to be said on him consider how opportunistic his vote was even after pressure seemed to be dying down a little, but now he looks like scum who got caught with his pants slightly down and is being forced to stick to his guns while at the same time looking for a way to get off a possible town wagon.
On June 13 2015 09:23 Rels wrote:
And batsnacks, you have very few post worth reading with an enormous filter.

Though I have this feeling: that's weird that everybody is on you. Really, if you're mafia it means that scott, moosy or damdred almost have to be too.

But that doesn't matter atm. Make content and if someone is scummier than you I'll vote that person. That's it.

That is a godawful post ladies and gents. Keep an eye on this one.

Finally, Scott I want to know who your top lynch is.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 01:34:33
June 13 2015 01:30 GMT
#600
Oh fish ul Votecount


Oatsmaster (0): Kickstart
ruXxar (0): Trfel
Kickstart (0): Sulfurus
Sulfurus (4): Kickstart, geript, batsnacks, WaveOfShadow
Batsnacks (5): n00bKing, ruXxar, Oatsmaster, sulfurus, Rels
scott113133373737131731371313713137 (0): Rels
Geript (0): WaveofShadow
Rels (0): batsnacks

Not Voting (4):
MoosyDoosy
Damdred
scott11331373737373771317371373
Trfel

Currently Batsnacks is set to be lynched with 5 votes!
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