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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 12 2015 01:45 GMT
#201
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. we ALL believe you.

Anyways I got no read off of what bats has done. What you think of the ruxxar situation.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 12 2015 01:46 GMT
#202
Also the 2 people who scumread me peaced out of the thread. How dare they.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 12 2015 01:47 GMT
#203
On June 12 2015 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 10:27 geript wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:10 ruXxar wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting on me, besides the fact that very few other people have spoke up yet.

I am just rather overwhelmed by the amount of (cross) analysis occurring right now. ^.^ Although this is my first time around, I can already tell this will be great.

Down to business. So @ruXxar, your reasoning for voting for Kickstart is his statement about lying in a game of Mafia?

And @Trfel, can you please share why you're suspecting @ruXxar? I would have to agree with ruXxar's point that it is generally annoying when someone answers a question directed at you. Although I don't see why Kickstart went so far as to vote for Oatsmaster right off the bat. Unless he's the Mafia and trying to mislead us.

On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves.

people should be talking about this.

I invited you to talk to me but you've given me the cold shoulder thus far.
I has a sad

Kinda busy dog sitting. Was really sruprised when people didn't jump on that post at all. Like that's a post that mafia would usually be all over if that guy's town. It's so... indecisive... passive... unopinionated... blah. I've only skimmed but that was one of two posts that stuck out to me.

Batsnacks weird post stuck out to me too. IDK what he's doing, pulling a chezinu? IDK. I couldn't figure out wtf he was trying to say. I'll look at it again later when I get a full read in, but his post was at least interesting even if it is probably NAI
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 12 2015 01:51 GMT
#204
NAI is a new thing lol.

I kinda like ruxxar.
It was really funny that he answered a question not directed at him asking why people shouldnt answer questions not directed at them.

He doesnt do it intentionally to just create content IMO.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 12 2015 01:53 GMT
#205
On June 12 2015 10:47 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 12 2015 10:27 geript wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:10 ruXxar wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting on me, besides the fact that very few other people have spoke up yet.

I am just rather overwhelmed by the amount of (cross) analysis occurring right now. ^.^ Although this is my first time around, I can already tell this will be great.

Down to business. So @ruXxar, your reasoning for voting for Kickstart is his statement about lying in a game of Mafia?

And @Trfel, can you please share why you're suspecting @ruXxar? I would have to agree with ruXxar's point that it is generally annoying when someone answers a question directed at you. Although I don't see why Kickstart went so far as to vote for Oatsmaster right off the bat. Unless he's the Mafia and trying to mislead us.

On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves.

people should be talking about this.

I invited you to talk to me but you've given me the cold shoulder thus far.
I has a sad

Kinda busy dog sitting. Was really sruprised when people didn't jump on that post at all. Like that's a post that mafia would usually be all over if that guy's town. It's so... indecisive... passive... unopinionated... blah. I've only skimmed but that was one of two posts that stuck out to me.

Batsnacks weird post stuck out to me too. IDK what he's doing, pulling a chezinu? IDK. I couldn't figure out wtf he was trying to say. I'll look at it again later when I get a full read in, but his post was at least interesting even if it is probably NAI

I mean it stuck out to me because it's so blatantly....there? I don't think it's possible to comment much on a post like that because it goes way beyond a level of newbie I would expect. It's such an odd and terrible post I don't think it can come from anything BUT town but then again I've never seen even the newbiest noob town post anything like that. Would still lean town over scum on that pretty easy.

Batsnacks is meh, but I like Oats' posting around him. Something feels there to me.
Any thoughts on the Trfel/ruxxar/kickstart bullshit? I cba to read it in detail
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 12 2015 01:55 GMT
#206
On June 12 2015 10:47 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 12 2015 10:27 geript wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:10 ruXxar wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting on me, besides the fact that very few other people have spoke up yet.

I am just rather overwhelmed by the amount of (cross) analysis occurring right now. ^.^ Although this is my first time around, I can already tell this will be great.

Down to business. So @ruXxar, your reasoning for voting for Kickstart is his statement about lying in a game of Mafia?

And @Trfel, can you please share why you're suspecting @ruXxar? I would have to agree with ruXxar's point that it is generally annoying when someone answers a question directed at you. Although I don't see why Kickstart went so far as to vote for Oatsmaster right off the bat. Unless he's the Mafia and trying to mislead us.

On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves.

people should be talking about this.

I invited you to talk to me but you've given me the cold shoulder thus far.
I has a sad

Kinda busy dog sitting. Was really sruprised when people didn't jump on that post at all. Like that's a post that mafia would usually be all over if that guy's town. It's so... indecisive... passive... unopinionated... blah. I've only skimmed but that was one of two posts that stuck out to me.

Batsnacks weird post stuck out to me too. IDK what he's doing, pulling a chezinu? IDK. I couldn't figure out wtf he was trying to say. I'll look at it again later when I get a full read in, but his post was at least interesting even if it is probably NAI

On this note though, actually.
You expected people to post about that, specifically you expected mafia to jump on that and call him scum for being bad, so what does it mean to you exactly that no one did?

(And what is NAI?)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 12 2015 02:01 GMT
#207
not alignment indicative I assume.
No gg, No skill.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 12 2015 02:02 GMT
#208
On June 12 2015 10:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 10:47 geript wrote:
On June 12 2015 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 12 2015 10:27 geript wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:10 ruXxar wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting on me, besides the fact that very few other people have spoke up yet.

I am just rather overwhelmed by the amount of (cross) analysis occurring right now. ^.^ Although this is my first time around, I can already tell this will be great.

Down to business. So @ruXxar, your reasoning for voting for Kickstart is his statement about lying in a game of Mafia?

And @Trfel, can you please share why you're suspecting @ruXxar? I would have to agree with ruXxar's point that it is generally annoying when someone answers a question directed at you. Although I don't see why Kickstart went so far as to vote for Oatsmaster right off the bat. Unless he's the Mafia and trying to mislead us.

On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves.

people should be talking about this.

I invited you to talk to me but you've given me the cold shoulder thus far.
I has a sad

Kinda busy dog sitting. Was really sruprised when people didn't jump on that post at all. Like that's a post that mafia would usually be all over if that guy's town. It's so... indecisive... passive... unopinionated... blah. I've only skimmed but that was one of two posts that stuck out to me.

Batsnacks weird post stuck out to me too. IDK what he's doing, pulling a chezinu? IDK. I couldn't figure out wtf he was trying to say. I'll look at it again later when I get a full read in, but his post was at least interesting even if it is probably NAI

I mean it stuck out to me because it's so blatantly....there? I don't think it's possible to comment much on a post like that because it goes way beyond a level of newbie I would expect. It's such an odd and terrible post I don't think it can come from anything BUT town but then again I've never seen even the newbiest noob town post anything like that. Would still lean town over scum on that pretty easy.

Batsnacks is meh, but I like Oats' posting around him. Something feels there to me.
Any thoughts on the Trfel/ruxxar/kickstart bullshit? I cba to read it in detail

Sorry if I'm confusing you guys. Trfel can vouch for me since he's also on the Bnet forums from time to time, but I like to take a very respectful tone in my posts due to the high amount of trolling on those forums. It helps to keep the peace. Thought it would be normal since TL's supposed to be all official and strict but I guess it's fine to be informal looking at the rest of this thread lol.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 12 2015 02:03 GMT
#209
Yo, also keep in mind a newbie might be Mafia which is why he's not jumping on my post. Seems like something Mafia should do from reading the guide.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 12 2015 02:05 GMT
#210
On June 12 2015 10:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 10:47 geript wrote:
On June 12 2015 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 12 2015 10:27 geript wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:10 ruXxar wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting on me, besides the fact that very few other people have spoke up yet.

I am just rather overwhelmed by the amount of (cross) analysis occurring right now. ^.^ Although this is my first time around, I can already tell this will be great.

Down to business. So @ruXxar, your reasoning for voting for Kickstart is his statement about lying in a game of Mafia?

And @Trfel, can you please share why you're suspecting @ruXxar? I would have to agree with ruXxar's point that it is generally annoying when someone answers a question directed at you. Although I don't see why Kickstart went so far as to vote for Oatsmaster right off the bat. Unless he's the Mafia and trying to mislead us.

On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves.

people should be talking about this.

I invited you to talk to me but you've given me the cold shoulder thus far.
I has a sad

Kinda busy dog sitting. Was really sruprised when people didn't jump on that post at all. Like that's a post that mafia would usually be all over if that guy's town. It's so... indecisive... passive... unopinionated... blah. I've only skimmed but that was one of two posts that stuck out to me.

Batsnacks weird post stuck out to me too. IDK what he's doing, pulling a chezinu? IDK. I couldn't figure out wtf he was trying to say. I'll look at it again later when I get a full read in, but his post was at least interesting even if it is probably NAI

On this note though, actually.
You expected people to post about that, specifically you expected mafia to jump on that and call him scum for being bad, so what does it mean to you exactly that no one did?

(And what is NAI?)

nai = not alignment indicative
And yes. I was surprised that no one had commented on the post because it's a post that I would expect mafia to push hard if the guy was town. So it's not just the odd post. It's also the fact that it went unnoticed; ie. why wouldu mafia ignore lynchbait post?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 12 2015 02:07 GMT
#211
So your vote was to invite mafia to jump on I assume?
You didn't answer my question either. What does it mean to you that mafia ignored lynchbait post? (And I assume by your language you are assuming moosy is town as well?)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 12 2015 02:08 GMT
#212
On June 12 2015 11:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Yo, also keep in mind a newbie might be Mafia which is why he's not jumping on my post. Seems like something Mafia should do from reading the guide.

Did you post that post intentionally so mafia would jump on it?
You do realise that there are 3 mafia.
No gg, No skill.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 12 2015 02:10 GMT
#213
On June 12 2015 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 11:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Yo, also keep in mind a newbie might be Mafia which is why he's not jumping on my post. Seems like something Mafia should do from reading the guide.

Did you post that post intentionally so mafia would jump on it?
You do realise that there are 3 mafia.

I posted that post because I was confused about what exactly Trfel was calling ruXx out on although it seems that suspicion is more or less cleared up. I also had zero intention on baiting the Mafia. As I said, I'm completely clueless as to how to play.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 12 2015 02:11 GMT
#214
^^ Also yeah, now I know there's three Mafia. I asked that question earlier.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 12 2015 02:11 GMT
#215
IDK what moosy is honestly. I kinda think he's mafia because for the most part no one commented on what's like the easiest post to shit all over but I'm the only person who's seemingly have a thought about him. But the post is TL noobielicious.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 12 2015 02:14 GMT
#216
On June 12 2015 11:11 geript wrote:
IDK what moosy is honestly. I kinda think he's mafia because for the most part no one commented on what's like the easiest post to shit all over but I'm the only person who's seemingly have a thought about him. But the post is TL noobielicious.

^ If you look at my previous posts, literally 3/4 of them are me cheering for Life in the same manner as my banner. Also, why would I be Mafia if no one commented on my post? If there's 3 Mafia, wouldn't one of them be able to comment on mine safely?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 12 2015 02:14 GMT
#217
On June 12 2015 11:11 geript wrote:
IDK what moosy is honestly. I kinda think he's mafia because for the most part no one commented on what's like the easiest post to shit all over but I'm the only person who's seemingly have a thought about him. But the post is TL noobielicious.

So he's scum making obvious looking town lynchbait post because nobody at all commented on it?

This is shitlogic right here ladies and gents.
##vote: geript


I will be so proud of myself here.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 12 2015 02:16 GMT
#218
Here's something of a mini-case on why I am scum reading ruXxar atm.

First several posts he seems quite concerned about the scum team! Why is this. This doesn't seem to be normal new town player concerns to me.
On June 12 2015 07:22 ruXxar wrote:
Well if the mafia are just going to lynch themselves then this should be an easy game!

On June 12 2015 07:26 ruXxar wrote:
I actually believe in the right of individual freedom, so as long as the mafia just stick to themselves and don't hurt anyone, I don't mind having them around .

*slaps himself*

No, stop daydreaming ruxx!


Then there was his answering question slip which has been the topic of much debate. It is really weird because I said I don't like people answering questions directed at others, Trfel asks me why, and then ruxx answers -______-. I think a townie would read that and be wary of answering because they see me saying that answering for others is a bad thing. My take on it is that ruxx maybe saw an easy opportunity to seem helpful and didn't even pay attention to the interaction going on there.
On June 12 2015 07:36 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.
Why don't you like it when people answer questions directed at others?


Usually you want to hear the reasoning of the person you're asking.

If someone answers the question before him, you potentially open up for someone else to make a logical conclusion beforehand, and then the guy the question was directed at get an easy bandwagon onto that guys conclusions.

At least that is what I think.


Another post which doesn't seem like a town mindset at all to me. Why would town try to defend lying. This seems like scum saying "lying is ok" but trying to make it seem like something town just does all the time too, it isn't, and this is scum mindset imo.
On June 12 2015 07:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.


Why don't you like liars?
Lying is a powerful tool that when used in the right situation can greatly benefit one's interests.
This goes for both sides.
Deception is not a thing reserved only for mafia.

What you meant to say is that you don't like liars that have conflicting interests from you.


And yet another on the lying thing that I just don't see a townie making. This just stinks of scum mindset to me again.
On June 12 2015 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 07:56 Trfel wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:50 Trfel wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:46 ruXxar wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:41 Trfel wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:36 ruXxar wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.
Why don't you like it when people answer questions directed at others?


Usually you want to hear the reasoning of the person you're asking.

If someone answers the question before him, you potentially open up for someone else to make a logical conclusion beforehand, and then the guy the question was directed at get an easy bandwagon onto that guys conclusions.

At least that is what I think.
........

The "at least that is what I think" pushes it over the top. I could see it as a joke, but then there's no reason to include the last sentence. It's either inherently contradictory or unnecessarily cautious.

Scum lean.


What I meant by the last sentence was that that was my number one assumption of why he made that statement.
I won't pretend to be a mind reader, but I find it strange that he throws out unsubstantiated claims like that.

So far kickstart is a scumlean for me.
Wait....

So you are serious about your explanation for not answering a question directed at someone else, because it helps them answer the question if they are scum. But in saying this, you answered a question directed at someone else, your scum read?

This explanation is going to be good.


Yes my answer was serious.

I see now how that actually denied us information from kick start.
It was a mistake on my part to actually answer that question.


Can you please clarify, why are you scumreading Kickstart?


I didn't like his statement about not liking liars.

This whole game is based on the concept of deception.
If you don't like that aspect of the game, why are you here?
You might claim that you like hunting lying mafia,
But it's not a given beforehand what role you will be, so that doesn't make sense either.

I have no prior info about any of the players here, so he might have some personal conviction for why he said that, but to me it didn't seem like a genuine well thought through statement.



And here is a ton of WIFOM that is literally useless to town. Ended with a pointless question to me. Again to me it is just obvious why as town you don't like people to lie, I even explained a few times what I meant by the statement, so he is either not reading or pressing a nonsensical point.
On June 12 2015 08:43 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 08:19 Trfel wrote:
ruXxar

1. Answered a question directed to someone else, while explaining why answering questions directed at others hurts town
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2015 07:36 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.
Why don't you like it when people answer questions directed at others?


Usually you want to hear the reasoning of the person you're asking.

If someone answers the question before him, you potentially open up for someone else to make a logical conclusion beforehand, and then the guy the question was directed at get an easy bandwagon onto that guys conclusions.

At least that is what I think.
RuXxar provided a reasonable explanation for why it is bad to answer questions directed at other people. However, this explanation was an answer to my question directed at Kickstart. In this very post, he's doing why he says that this is bad.

He's confident enough to ignore any potential purpose that I had for this question, confident enough in Kickstart's alignment that he doesn't want to hear Kickstart's answer, but not confident enough to leave the post without stating that this is what he thinks, implying that he could be wrong.


2. The person he answered a question for is now his scumread
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2015 07:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 07:41 Trfel wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:36 ruXxar wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote:
A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people.
Why don't you like it when people answer questions directed at others?


Usually you want to hear the reasoning of the person you're asking.

If someone answers the question before him, you potentially open up for someone else to make a logical conclusion beforehand, and then the guy the question was directed at get an easy bandwagon onto that guys conclusions.

At least that is what I think.
........

The "at least that is what I think" pushes it over the top. I could see it as a joke, but then there's no reason to include the last sentence. It's either inherently contradictory or unnecessarily cautious.

Scum lean.


What I meant by the last sentence was that that was my number one assumption of why he made that statement.
I won't pretend to be a mind reader, but I find it strange that he throws out unsubstantiated claims like that.

So far kickstart is a scumlean for me.
When he is questioned, ruxXar throws out a scum lean. However, he does this on Kickstart, the same player he just answered a question for.

Imagine that ruXxar is town. He sees Kickstart make a post, but doesn't try to look into his alignment. Then he sees me (Trfel) ask a question to Kickstart about that post, then immediately answers the question without stopping to realize that this is the same behavior criticized in his explanation (and he realizes that his play hurt town here). Only after answering my question to Kickstart does he bother to actually think about Kickstart's alignment.

I can't see this coming from a town mindset, from someone who is actually interested in determining people's alignments.

Furthermore, he hasn't made any alignment-related comments about anyone in the game other than Kickstart.


RuXxar is being contradictory, cautious, and is showing a mindset that isn't towny at all. He's not interested in thinking about people's alignments.


I beg to differ.

I've been leading an open and active discussion, answering and asking questions.
If I was scum I would be very careful not to expose myself like that.
I already admitted that I missed the logical inconsistency in answering kick starts question.

If I had been mafia then I would have been way more careful in considering my response and not make such an obvious error.

The only one that has made any statements that I don't understand / agree with so far is kick start.
He's also dodged my question so far.

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Liers means if you say you are going to do something but don't when it comes to forum mafia. Also good job breaking one of my rules,


He only explained what it means, not why he said it.

So @ kickstart.

Please explain why you don't like liars.


On its own this post isn't too bad but coupled with his general tone I think this just adds to it. A tell that a lot of new scum players fall for is proclaiming their inexperience. He does this a lot in his earlier posts in the way of justifying various things because of not knowing the game or the players, and in this post he does it again when it is needless imo. Saying I agree would have sufficed but for some reason he feels the need to proclaim his inexperience, something that everyone in the game knows.
On June 12 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:
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On June 12 2015 08:46 n00bKing wrote:
On June 12 2015 08:24 ruXxar wrote:
I'm not voting on anyone yet, it's way too early for that.

I'm gathering information to base my reads upon.
I can only evaluate what I've read so far.

Putting pressure on people is also a good thing, not necessarily because you believe they are scum, but to see how they react in tense situations.

You're right, putting pressure on people can be a good thing, to see how they react.

That's why you're wrong, it is not too early to vote.


I agree.

As said, it's my first time playing mafia and I haven't been in many situations lately where i have to formulate sharp logical arguments.


I am usually forgiving to players I don't know or newer players, but to me there are so many things that seem scummy to me that I can't do that in ruXxars case.

Thoughts?
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MoosyDoosy
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June 12 2015 02:22 GMT
#220
On June 12 2015 11:16 Kickstart wrote:
Here's something of a mini-case on why I am scum reading ruXxar atm.

First several posts he seems quite concerned about the scum team! Why is this. This doesn't seem to be normal new town player concerns to me.
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On June 12 2015 07:22 ruXxar wrote:
Well if the mafia are just going to lynch themselves then this should be an easy game!

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On June 12 2015 07:26 ruXxar wrote:
I actually believe in the right of individual freedom, so as long as the mafia just stick to themselves and don't hurt anyone, I don't mind having them around .

*slaps himself*

No, stop daydreaming ruxx!


Then there was his answering question slip which has been the topic of much debate. It is really weird because I said I don't like people answering questions directed at others, Trfel asks me why, and then ruxx answers -______-. I think a townie would read that and be wary of answering because they see me saying that answering for others is a bad thing. My take on it is that ruxx maybe saw an easy opportunity to seem helpful and didn't even pay attention to the interaction going on there.

Wait, so when you're saying that ruXx didn't notice the interaction, are you saying that your post was meant to bait the Mafia aka ruXx?
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