EPTThat case is forcing a read hard.
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
That case is forcing a read hard. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
Early day1 association cases too ez4me. | ||
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
I townread n00b because I liked his post on ruxx. I townread ruxx at the time but I want to take the time to digest Kick's latest post before giving another read on him. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
no I was not baiting. I mean that he entirely missed the problem with him answering that when it wasn't directed at him. @Oats So I make a read and ask for opinions on it and you scum read me for tryharding? Amusing coming from a guy who makes up a rule and then pushes a nonsense read on bats based on said rule that he just made up. Really don't know what it is with you but you just perpetually tunnel me and annoy me in every game. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On June 12 2015 11:25 Sulfurus wrote: I townread n00b because I liked his post on ruxx. I townread ruxx at the time but I want to take the time to digest Kick's latest post before giving another read on him. Before you do that why not answer my question to you. I've mentioned it several times now. Explain your vote on me. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 12 2015 11:26 Kickstart wrote: @moosy no I was not baiting. I mean that he entirely missed the problem with him answering that when it wasn't directed at him. @Oats So I make a read and ask for opinions on it and you scum read me for tryharding? Amusing coming from a guy who makes up a rule and then pushes a nonsense read on bats based on said rule that he just made up. Really don't know what it is with you but you just perpetually tunnel me and annoy me in every game. yeah I really am scumreading you for tryharding. Dont take this the wrong way, but I cannot remember what happened in games that happened more than a month ago. ITS NOT A MADE UP RULE. Kurumi? yeah kurumi did it. Bats is scummy man. Why do you think Bats is town? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
Also, going back to his post where he "misses the interaction" which is right after his rambling, it's pretty clear that ruXx is not paying attention whatsoever. As a newbie he was probably just as excited as I was about remaining passive which is why he didn't notice the err in his post. Just the fact that it seems he has no idea whatsoever about what he's saying during his rambling just shows this too. I'll look through the rest of your points, but I'll try and provide a "newbie perspective." Either way, it looks like he wised up real fast and stopped being as frantic and energetic in his posts. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
Go look at my previous games if you are "concerned" with my "tryhard" posting style (just rofl at how bullshit this is), you will find that this is normal for me and that when I have been lynched for my posting it has been a mislynch. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
Him intercepting a question was him tryharding a basic read and him supporting lying is from a real life Mafia mindset since lying is much more common in real life. The last two posts that you point out are kind of shady but even then they err on the side of newbie to online Mafia. Overall I wouldn't vote him just yet until we get more evidence. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
the initial scumread on you is essentially cause most of your posts up to that point were filler although that seems to not be true anymore. Regarding ruXxar answer me this: A common mafia tell for new players is to both refrain from posting and to be timid in their posts however as n00bKing pointed out neither of these are true for ruXxar; and in your own post you say ruXxar falls for a different new player tell by citing his inexperience. So why is it that some of these tells apply to ruXx but others don't? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On June 12 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: ^ Also Kickstart, I wouldn't read too much into ruXx's initial post where he's rambling about slapping/daydreaming about Mafia. It might have been from an attempt to identify himself as a non-aggressor to the Mafia so that when night time comes around, they don't kill him. If the game went on for longer, people would also suspect ruXx more giving the Mafia an easy kill. This actually happens a ton in real life Mafia but it's clear it's totally different online at this point. Also, going back to his post where he "misses the interaction" which is right after his rambling, it's pretty clear that ruXx is not paying attention whatsoever. As a newbie he was probably just as excited as I was about remaining passive which is why he didn't notice the err in his post. Just the fact that it seems he has no idea whatsoever about what he's saying during his rambling just shows this too. I'll look through the rest of your points, but I'll try and provide a "newbie perspective." Either way, it looks like he wised up real fast and stopped being as frantic and energetic in his posts. You could be right, and as I said I usually do give players I don't know and new players the benefit of the doubt, but as I said the fact that he has done several things that I think are scummy and none that I deem towny is why I presented this and asked for peoples thought. Also, the goal of town is not to protect themselves from a mafia nightkill. This doesn't matter in the slightest unless you are a blue role or something, and even then, the #1 goal of town should always be to show that they are town through their actions, and coming in a close second is helping to find scum. Sitting back and not being a target is literally the last thing you want to do as town because it makes it hard to read you, which is shit for town but good for scum because they already know your alignment while town doesn't. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On June 12 2015 11:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: @Kickstart, I'm not saying you're tryharding I'm saying ruXx was tryharding at the start. Please re-read. That was directed at Oats.................................................................................. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On June 12 2015 11:42 Kickstart wrote: That was directed at Oats.................................................................................. My b. Your other post was really helpful too. Hm, I'd still give ruXx the benefit of the doubt for this day time but I see where you're coming from. @Sulfurus, just because a n00b is aggressive doesn't mean he's Mafia. He might just be very excited. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On June 12 2015 11:40 MoosyDoosy wrote: On that note, why you getting so offensive bro? My post does not attempt to scumread you, I'm just trying to interpret ruXx's posts in a different light. Is the reason you're getting offensive about people scumreading you is because you're actually scum? I always get defensive when people scum read me. Because they always do it based on nothing or bullshit reasons. Again I will refer you to my previous games, which I have already asked people to do if they have concerns about my style. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 12 2015 11:35 Kickstart wrote: I never said I thought he was town. I said I didn't read his posts either way. And you scumreading me for tryharding makes less sense then your bats push to me. Also I referenced the wrong game but it doesn't matter. Go look at my previous games if you are "concerned" with my "tryhard" posting style (just rofl at how bullshit this is), you will find that this is normal for me and that when I have been lynched for my posting it has been a mislynch. So if you dont read bats as town, then what is your problem with my read on bats??? Ok Im not exactly reading you just for "tryharding". I just think that ruxx isnt mafia and you are trying too hard to make up a case on him. Dont get mad when people scumread you for legitimate reasons. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 12 2015 11:44 Kickstart wrote: I always get defensive when people scum read me. Because they always do it based on nothing or bullshit reasons. Again I will refer you to my previous games, which I have already asked people to do if they have concerns about my style. Yeah dont do this. Stop asking people to do your work for you. If you really think that your previous town and scumgames have a huge difference in the way you post, then show some examples if you want to use that as a reason for people to townread you. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On June 12 2015 11:39 Sulfurus wrote: @Kickstart the initial scumread on you is essentially cause most of your posts up to that point were filler although that seems to not be true anymore. Regarding ruXxar answer me this: A common mafia tell for new players is to both refrain from posting and to be timid in their posts however as n00bKing pointed out neither of these are true for ruXxar; and in your own post you say ruXxar falls for a different new player tell by citing his inexperience. So why is it that some of these tells apply to ruXx but others don't? I don't really think your question makes sense but Ill attempt to answer anyways. First off, just because a player does X doest not mean they are scum. If ruXxar had lurked and been timid in his posting that doesn't automatically make him mafia, nor does my point about him citing his inexperience make him mafia. The point is that these are some traps that inexperienced scum players fall into for different reasons. Asking why he doesn't do one but does another just makes no sense to me. I mean, I've not played with him before but it seems he isn't the quiet passive type so by definition the first "tell" you cited wouldn't be a tell of his would it? | ||
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