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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 13 2015 20:47 GMT
#821
batsnacks I understand your trap. ^.^ Just saying we'll see how right it is after we get him. If me, you, and WaveofShadow are right about getrip and Trfel is right about Rels, that's two of the Mafias.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 20:50 GMT
#822
On June 14 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
batsnacks I understand your trap. ^.^ Just saying we'll see how right it is after we get him. If me, you, and WaveofShadow are right about getrip and Trfel is right about Rels, that's two of the Mafias.


If geript is mafia, and he is... now that he slipped a lot of his filter makes more sense especially the "I don't think any vets are mafia" comment.

Anyway if geript is mafia Rels is almost certainly town. geript knows Rels is town and would sheep a case on him anyway. That's what makes him mafia.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
June 13 2015 20:51 GMT
#823
The last couple of hours are such a disappointment. Had 6 votes on one player and 5 on another. Now there are 4 different players with at least 3 votes on them, none of which have more than a 1-vote lead on any other. Who wants to post a trainwreck pic?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 13 2015 20:53 GMT
#824
Noob bat caught scum. Which Geript blurted me town XD so there's that to
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 13 2015 20:53 GMT
#825
On June 14 2015 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
The last couple of hours are such a disappointment. Had 6 votes on one player and 5 on another. Now there are 4 different players with at least 3 votes on them, none of which have more than a 1-vote lead on any other. Who wants to post a trainwreck pic?

Do you seriously not think geript is Mafia at this point?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 13 2015 20:53 GMT
#826
Oh fish ul Votecount


Oatsmaster (0): Kickstart
ruXxar (0): Trfel
Kickstart (0): Sulfurus
Sulfurus (2): Kickstart, geript, batsnacks, WaveOfShadow, scott11331373737373771317371373, MoosyDoosy
Batsnacks (3): n00bKing, ruXxar, Oatsmaster, sulfurus, Rels, Trfel
scott113133373737131731371313713137 (0): Rels
Geript (6): WaveofShadow, Rels, Oatsmaster, batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, MoosyDoosy
Rels (2): batsnacks, Trfel, Damdred, Geript, scott11331373737373771317371373

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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 20:54 GMT
#827
On June 14 2015 05:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
The last couple of hours are such a disappointment. Had 6 votes on one player and 5 on another. Now there are 4 different players with at least 3 votes on them, none of which have more than a 1-vote lead on any other. Who wants to post a trainwreck pic?

Do you seriously not think geript is Mafia at this point?


He's just projecting... the trainwreck is him.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 20:55 GMT
#828
Lol. I'm pretty sure stupid was the right word originally. You have to be to think that I either scumslip ever OR that my response was a scumslip. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go play games because that's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted in a game ever.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 20:56 GMT
#829
On June 14 2015 05:55 geript wrote:
Lol. I'm pretty sure stupid was the right word originally. You have to be to think that I either scumslip ever OR that my response was a scumslip. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go play games because that's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted in a game ever.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 20:56 GMT
#830
I've really been trying to be much nicer when I play, but there's a serious lack a brain cells if that argument catches on.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 20:57 GMT
#831
On June 14 2015 05:56 geript wrote:
I've really been trying to be much nicer when I play, but there's a serious lack a brain cells if that argument catches on.


You're leading in votes by a large majority, also my previous post still applies here.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 13 2015 20:58 GMT
#832
On June 14 2015 05:56 geript wrote:
I've really been trying to be much nicer when I play, but there's a serious lack a brain cells if that argument catches on.
Wow, what a compelling argument. Guys, I guess geript is town after all.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 20:58 GMT
#833
On June 14 2015 05:56 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:55 geript wrote:
Lol. I'm pretty sure stupid was the right word originally. You have to be to think that I either scumslip ever OR that my response was a scumslip. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go play games because that's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted in a game ever.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

I'd bother to try, but if that's the type of argument that's going to be espoused then I'd rather get lynched and laugh at the mix of stupid that's gone around.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 21:00 GMT
#834
On June 14 2015 05:58 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:56 batsnacks wrote:
On June 14 2015 05:55 geript wrote:
Lol. I'm pretty sure stupid was the right word originally. You have to be to think that I either scumslip ever OR that my response was a scumslip. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go play games because that's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted in a game ever.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

I'd bother to try, but if that's the type of argument that's going to be espoused then I'd rather get lynched and laugh at the mix of stupid that's gone around.

I'd probably say the same thing or at least something similar in your position so no hard feelings here.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 13 2015 21:01 GMT
#835
On June 14 2015 05:38 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:36 ruXxar wrote:
According to this, it's possible that the 3 mafia can have these roles:

Role blocker, rolecop, godfather, vigilante and goon.

Or does it mean that there are 3 mafia PLUS possibly 5 other roles that are not mafia, but win when mafia wins?

Please help me understand.

It's the first one. There are 3 mafia, who can have any of those 5 roles. It looks to me like 2 mafia could even have the same 1 of those 5 roles, weird as that sounds.


In that case these are the statistics:

I'm making the assumption that there are no duplicate roles besides VT and Goon

For mafia, there are possibly 3 target actions per night + vigilante shot.
I'm not sure who takes priority between roleblocker and PGO, but lets assume that the PGO takes priority.

For town there are possibly 3 target actions per night + vigilante shot.


Mafia know who's on each team.
If the mafia target the PGO they will instantly know who it is and won't target him again.
Whereas if a town targets the PGO, it might be assumed that he died due to a mafia kill or a vigilante shot.

If we don't count the vigilantes chances thjen chances are mafia will lose max 1 person to the PGO, while town could possibly lose 3.

In percentages that would mean that mafia lose 33% of their force, while town could lose 30% of their force.

That doesnt really say anything though since you have to evalute the value of each role individually, which is very hard to do.

From this I just realized I can't really see a clear reason why he should or shouldnt reveal himself, it all gets a bit too complicated for me.

*brain fried*


"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 13 2015 21:02 GMT
#836
I think the better thing to discuss in terms of roles now that we're all voting for geript is finding who the doctors should save for night time.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 13 2015 21:03 GMT
#837
On June 14 2015 06:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think the better thing to discuss in terms of roles now that we're all voting for geript is finding who the doctors should save for night time.
We should definitely not talk about this.

Let the blue roles decide how to use their abilities. Talking about it openly only gives scum more information, which can be extremely valuable.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 13 2015 21:04 GMT
#838
On June 14 2015 06:03 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 06:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think the better thing to discuss in terms of roles now that we're all voting for geript is finding who the doctors should save for night time.
We should definitely not talk about this.

Let the blue roles decide how to use their abilities. Talking about it openly only gives scum more information, which can be extremely valuable.

Oh true, didn't think about that. What about the cop tho? Shouldn't we talk about who he should investigate during night time?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 13 2015 21:05 GMT
#839
On June 14 2015 05:38 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 14 2015 05:32 batsnacks wrote:
Bat Traps™ mafia traps. The highest quality traps for your scum hunting needs.

We'll see how right we are after Sulfurus, Rels, and getrip.


You don't understand. geript just claimed mafia.

Here is geript saying he will sheep Trfel's amazing case on Rels:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Actually, I think I'm going to sheep too.


Here is sulfurus's bold post defending Rels:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game.

He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.


Here is me saying sulfurus's post is bold, I ask why mafia would post such a thing:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game.

He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.


This is bold. Why does mafia post this?


Here geript explains that sometimes mafia like to defend town poorly. geript knows that Rels is town, yet he would sheep Trfel's case on Rels:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2015 05:08 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game.

He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.


This is bold. Why does mafia post this?

It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia.


Here. Let me learn you stupids up good in the english language.
Batsnacks question, "Why does mafia post this?" is what is called a rhetorical question. It presupposes the answer (that mafia doesn't post that). My response directly attacks the underlying assumption that mafia doesn't post like that. If I bothered to look, I bet I can find 2 games where I've made similar posts as mafia (as Sulfurous did). His (Sulfurous) post is not a post that is strictly alignment indicative. It can come from town and from mafia.

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n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
June 13 2015 21:06 GMT
#840
On June 14 2015 05:38 batsnacks wrote:
Here is geript saying he will sheep Trfel's amazing case on Rels:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Actually, I think I'm going to sheep too.


Here is sulfurus's bold post defending Rels:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game.

He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.


Here is me saying sulfurus's post is bold, I ask why mafia would post such a thing:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game.

He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.


This is bold. Why does mafia post this?


Here geript explains that sometimes mafia like to defend town poorly. geript knows that Rels is town, yet he would sheep Trfel's case on Rels:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2015 05:08 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game.

He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.


This is bold. Why does mafia post this?

It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia.


How is any of that supposed to be difficult to explain? Geript has at times thought Sulfurus looked scummy. And he has at times thought Rels looked scummy. Most recently, his vote has been on Rels, so that is presumably his top scum read.

You ask geript why Sulfurus would defend Rels if Sulfurus were scum. geript at this point participates in a discussion that PRE-ASSUMES Sulfurus is scum. And he hypothesizes that Sulfurus could be defending a Town player poorly. This would require him to be wrong about Rels being scum. I see nothing wrong with geript acknowledging the possibility that he could be wrong about Rels being scum, and answering a hypothetical question about why Sulfurus would act as he has if HE were scum.

This is almost as hollow as the reasoning Trfel used against Rels. Not quite as hollow. But almost.
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