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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 18 2015 09:51 GMT
#1901
Also my voting for kickstart was due to the fact i believed he was scum together with moosy.

Also due to the bussing argument earlier, and the friendly banter between moosy and kickstart on start of day 2.

I jumped on the kick vote because I thought it would be easier to get kick lynched than moosy.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 09:55:00
June 18 2015 09:53 GMT
#1902
The reason why I thought the friendly banter was a tell was because of n00bking.

He said in his last post that a top scumtell was that scum didn't talk to each other, just about each other.

Moosy seemed very interested in n00bkings post so I was sure that he picked up on this point.

I used the banter between moosy and kick as confirmation bias for this point when they later attacked me together.

(IE : they wanted to talk to each other as to not seem suspicious according to n00bkings point)
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 18 2015 09:55 GMT
#1903
Shit, sorry for edit.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 18 2015 10:08 GMT
#1904
OK first as I said several times, I think at least one mafia jumped on my easy train at the start of day 2. Discarding moosy, the people on my train were:
batsnacks
scott
ruxxar
Damdred
Kickstart
Trfel

So there is a good chance at least 1 mafia is in that list.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 18 2015 10:11 GMT
#1905
Thoughts on various people.

Oatsmaster
Like day 1, he didn't vote neither me nor Sulfurus. In his reasons to vote Kickstart, he expresses suspicion on Sulfu, but never vote him. Suspicious IMO.

ruxxar
ruxx went on my wagon when it was easy.
Then he went on moosy's wagon for weird reasons when I started posting stuff.
Then he went on Kickstart's easy wagon for no reason.
Then he didnt' go for Sulfu's easy wagon.
Not town sign obviously but not that suspicious IMO.

Damdred
The first to go on Sulfu's wagon (after Kickstart's defense vote). Pretty good sign.

batsnacks
Started on my per his case, but quickly voted ruxxar. Super weird, as I was super scummy before day 2.

WOS
First of the day to express real doubts on Sulfu. Good sign.

Trfel
Explained everything he did. Very logical. Hammered Sulfu with his vote.

scott
Super suspicious. I will pretend he's mafia and construct a likely narrative for him for day 2.

He hoped into my easy train sheeping someone at the very start of the day 2.
He had 14 posts between 5 hours before the deadline and the deadline
In the first of these 14 posts he soft defended Sulfu, when Sulfu only had one vote (Kickstart's):
On June 17 2015 02:44 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 13:06 Kickstart wrote:
I said sorry once. Again you are just making stuff up in that regard. Only in your mind was last game an ok lynch and was I playing weird at all, your only qualm was my posts were too long.... But I don't want to argue with you about a prior game or about anything for that matter. For someone who likes to talk about what others do, you sure sit back and do nothing early on and get yourself into the the most ridiculous tunnels :rollseyes:.

Not discussing this nonsense further it is a waste of time.


Then let us discuss Sulfurus - what do you not like about him? He just voted for Oats I see.

Then, even though he posted 8 posts in the last 4 hours, he posted this:
On June 17 2015 06:38 scott31337 wrote:
Yeah Im here had to finish the other game - I fought well
let me read and catch up and my vote

This post looks like this to me: "Ow I don't have time to think I may do a mistake voting as I only have a few minutes to decides"
And mistake he did since he posted this:
On June 17 2015 06:43 scott31337 wrote:
Grrr I haven't like KS all game - his wall of text isn't that great but it's something....I like who's on Sulfurs better, but the last three times I've used that suggestion, Its because the mafia were on the other side and enough townies on the ML anyway
I'm going with KS.


At the same time, Sulfu also voted Kickstart.

Then scott realized his vote and Sulfu's was not enough to lynch Kickstart, so he salvaged the situation:
On June 17 2015 06:49 scott31337 wrote:
If Sulf is mafia then I'll look like shit

Trfel is my believer and WoS is my believer they want Sulf dead
Sulf isn't doing shit
Let's go Sulf then fuhq it

What does he "if Sulfu if mafia then I'll look like shit". Why care so much. He had the same kind of thinking day 1, when he ninja voted geript for no reason. That reason may be that he wanted to be in the group.

So the strongest thing I take from day 2 analysis is a strong scum lean on scott. These reasons especially:
- he was part of the group that had an easy jump on me
- he tried to hammer kickstart
- he changed his mind just after, as it was clear that Sulfu was going to get lynched
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 18 2015 10:18 GMT
#1906
OK I'm updating my town list:
WOS
Trfel
Kickstart
batsnacks

By POE 2 mafia are probably here:
ruxxar
Oats
Damdred
scott

And I think at least 1 mafia is in here:
batsnacks
scott
ruxxar
Damdred
Kickstart
Trfel

So crossing the lists, these people has a good chance being mafia:
scott
ruxxar
Damdred

Ordered that last list from most scum to less scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 18 2015 10:20 GMT
#1907
OK I really have to work now (= didn't do shit all morning as obviously I was posting things here.

TODO list when I have time: ruxxar / Sulfu interactions analysis + updating my scott case.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 18 2015 10:23 GMT
#1908
##Vote scott31337
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 18 2015 13:58 GMT
#1909
On June 18 2015 17:56 Rels wrote:
Another person is weird. It's Oatsmaster.
He did the same thing for his two votes. He jumped on a new train, so he was second vote each time; and each time, his reasons were ... not. Yeah no reasons actually.

It's almost as he wanted to be the second in the group, no matter who was the lynch, so he could say after "hey, I was at the beginning of the train, didn't hop in opportuniscally".

I'll see if his day 2 votes are the same. Later. This shit takes too long to do.

more like im lazy and dont vote lol.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 18 2015 13:59 GMT
#1910
On June 18 2015 18:55 ruXxar wrote:
Shit, sorry for edit.

modkill his ass.

Ive never actually seen anyone get modkilled for editing lol.
No gg, No skill.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 18 2015 14:56 GMT
#1911
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486978-newbie-student-mafia-xi?page=96#1902


ruXxar has bee warned for editing posts
Try TL Mafia!!!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 18 2015 15:26 GMT
#1912
Woaw I leave the thread for 5 hours and a third of the messages are from the host.

Anyway I have a request for everyone reading: I want you to take a look at voting patterns and tell your thoughts about it. I made voting recap for day 1 and day 2. Or you can use Trfel's analysis if you prefer that style.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 18 2015 16:40 GMT
#1913
Am I a dick if I just assume you're town and don't want to go through any of that?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 18 2015 16:45 GMT
#1914
yeah pretty much what wave said.

As I said before, I dont think any of the votes have been alignment indicative so far this game.
Because none of them were to save a mafia.

No gg, No skill.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 18 2015 16:47 GMT
#1915
Yeah, just read it once and say of anyone looked good or weird.

I have cookies for the first three
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 18 2015 16:48 GMT
#1916
On June 19 2015 01:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah pretty much what wave said.

As I said before, I dont think any of the votes have been alignment indicative so far this game.
Because none of them were to save a mafia.


I find Scott s vote both day could be in this category
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 18 2015 17:22 GMT
#1917
So I wanted to start a process of elimination.


Right now my most solid town reads are:

Wave:
For his reaction to my call out of blue hunting.
For his "I want this dead" comment on sulfur.

Batsnacks:
For the way sulf desperately cried out that bats was scum when people swapped votes from sulf to rels.

Kickstart:
For ... Reasons.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 18 2015 17:23 GMT
#1918
On June 19 2015 01:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 01:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah pretty much what wave said.

As I said before, I dont think any of the votes have been alignment indicative so far this game.
Because none of them were to save a mafia.


I find Scott s vote both day could be in this category

yeah no,
day 1 his vote was on you then on geript.
last vote on geript. And geript got lynched by a landslide.
2nd day, he was actually on kickstart right before the end of the day where he switched to sulph.
and it was like 6-3 sulph at the point he changed.

So no, scott's votes do not fit into that catagory.

Unless you slipped and you know who is mafia.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 18 2015 17:23 GMT
#1919
On June 19 2015 02:22 ruXxar wrote:
So I wanted to start a process of elimination.


Right now my most solid town reads are:

Wave:
For his reaction to my call out of blue hunting.
For his "I want this dead" comment on sulfur.

Batsnacks:
For the way sulf desperately cried out that bats was scum when people swapped votes from sulf to rels.

Kickstart:
For ... Reasons.

hey dude if you are calling bats town because sulph scumread him, why arent you calling me town? sulph scumread me too.
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 18 2015 17:34 GMT
#1920
I'm more certain about bats because the votes were so close.
IT genuinely seende like a dying attempt to stay alive.

I also think he had given up at that point because he later says "if I had known you guys wouldn't lynch me I would have come back sooner".

So to me that seemed like a genuine attempt to lynch bats.

I'll have to reevaluate sulfurs case against you before I make any statements either way:

I feel very certain that bats is town though.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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