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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 15:19:35
November 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#1
The following is a collection of threads representing recent thought on StarCraft in the Brood War Strategy forum. The purpose of this collection is to be a place for new and veteran players alike to read up on current conversation about this game. The date of the thread creation is given to provide context, and will be ordered chronologically.

+ Show Spoiler [T] +

TvX

Light's Blog Translation
Written by Light (progamer TvZ legend), translated by juki October 13 2013 08:08.

How to Improve.pdf
Ver July 10 2010

Stylish FPVods TvZ & TvP Build Orders and Explanations
StylishVODs January 27 2009 09:14

! [G] DaZe advice for T's
DaZe Sweden. February 08 2007 21:26

TvT

TvT Build Order Turn vs Bogus Sniper Ridge
CardinalAllin April 24 2012 04:25

TvP

[G] Complete TvP Walls on Fighting Spirit 1.3
Jaevlaterran Sweden. February 12 2013 05:29

[G/D]TvP Mines Double Expand
Nazza Australia. September 07 2012 14:53

[G]Terran vs Protoss "The art of terran"
Savi[wOk] United States. September 05 2012 09:23

TvP FD into vulture drop
Savi[wOk] United States. September 04 2012 16:39

1 Rax FE TvP
Savi[wOk] United States. September 04 2012 16:15

VOD Analysis: Midas Perfectman TvP Build Order
Miwyfe England. April 12 2011 12:02

Hiya 4-fact Timing
NeVeR November 21 2010 18:36

Walling on Match Point
Necosarius Sweden. November 11 2009 05:36

D+ Adventures in Bio-tank
Manifesto7 Osaka. July 07 2009 16:38

[G] Tank Positioning
Vekzel Poland. October 08 2009 21:30

TvZ

[G/D] TvZ: 2 base 5 factory push
SlowBullets United States. November 25 2012 03:19

[G]TvZ +1 5Rax
1004 United States. December 03 2011 17:22

KT vs OZ : Flash vs JD
Double T Poland. May 06 2011 17:32

Flash vs Effort BigFile MSL Ro32 game analysis.
naneri Kyrgyzstan. April 12 2011 20:25

VOD Analysis: Sea vs Crazy-Hydra
Grobyc Canada. March 23 2011 15:35

Earlier Sparks Terran TvZ
icystorage Philippines. June 27 2009 13:36

! [G]The art of TvZ Han Bang-1 Vessel 3 Tank Timing
petzergling March 11 2009 00:33



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PvP

[G] PvP 2 Gate 5 Zealot Expand
fold Australia. November 08 2012 23:40

[G] Frozen's FE PvP Guide
OneOther United States. July 21 2010 15:41

PvT

PvT Opening 3 zealot cyber core
CardinalAllin June 20 2013 21:32

PvT Opening 1 goon range nexus
CardinalAllin June 20 2013 19:55

[G] PvT "safe" FE build
iNfeRnaL * Germany. January 03 2013 13:28

[G] PvT gas steal -> triple proxy gates
ymir233 United States. January 15 2012 13:52

SWL Finals - Aztec Opening Analysis
Ryshi Canada. April 15 2011 12:46

[BR/D] PvT Aztec (SWL Spoilers!)
GG.NoRe Korea (South). April 11 2011 02:51

! [G] W.T.F. - A PvT Guide
crescendo United States. October 23 2007 13:12

PvZ

PvZ: Counter All-ins and Cheese
GeckoXp Germany December 18 2013 01:31

[G] PvZ +1 3 Gate Speedlot
fold Australia. October 12 2012 22:46

VOD Analysis: Snow vs Jaedong
nbaker United States. March 26 2011 12:41

[G] PvZ +1 Sair/Speedlot
ArvickHero February 20 2011 13:32

[G] CODRAAaaa!!!!!!
SuperJongMan Jamaica. December 19 2009 15:06



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ZvX

Overlord Scouting Techniques
traceurling United States. March 03 2013 15:13

Kau's Proxy Hatch Guide
Kau Canada August 21 2010 17:37

Ahzz FPVODs
Ahzz Finland. April 30 2009 22:33

! [G] Zerg strategy guide
Ahzz Finland. June 13 2008 19:15

Getting a Queen every game?
Chef October 03 2007 00:47

ZvZ

ZvZ build order statistics
Crunchums United States. June 28 2012 08:26

[G] Hive ZvZ Underused/Secret Unit
GG.NoRe Korea (South). April 15 2011 06:08

ZvP

ZvP how to anticipate double gate on 4x4 maps
iFU.pauline France. November 07 2013

[G] BW ZvP - sAviOr Analysis
Shalashaska_123 United States. August 17 2013

[G] ZvP BroodWar Guide
ninazerg United States. June 27 2013

[G][D]JMave's BW Series
JMave Singapore. September 05 2011 11:01

[G] 5 Hatch Before Gas ZvP
LRM)nOoNe United States. June 03 2011 08:49

! [G] ZvP 5 hatch hydra -> muta build
w3jjjj United States. March 10 2009 13:17

ZvT

ZvT 2 hatch muta build tutorial for dummies
iFU.pauline France. November 05 2013 05:56

[G] ZvT How to play vs Mech Switch
CardinalAllin June 21 2013 22:28.

JMave's BW Series Part 2: Fake 2 Hatch ZvT
JMave Singapore. November 16 2011 10:39

JD vs flash Analysis
gongryong Korea (South). March 29 2011 19:22

9 hatch vs 10 hatch vs 12 hatch
ultramagnetics Poland. November 28 2009 05:52

(ZvT) Stopping the Bunker Rush
Day[9] United States. August 29 2006 10:58




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! [G] 2on2 For Dummies (Youtube Channel)
Valio Finland. June 01 2009 18:05

! [Q] 2v2 TZ
HonkHonkBeep China. November 07 2007 07:24

! [Q] P/T 2v2 Team Strategies
PersonMan United States. November 11 2006 15:28

! [Q] Zerg in 2v2, help plz
Death-Link Greece. September 28 2005



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Replays...
zimp Hungary. February 11 2012 12:34

[G] Shield Battery
Shade[AoV] United States. March 18 2011 15:51

[G] Mechanics of StarCraft
GeckoVOD Germany. November 03 2009 02:10

[Guide] Mindcontrol - Mental strategies for SC
Quint June 14 2009 17:26

! [G] Timing
[i]Chill Canada. January 26 2008 08:34




Day9 stuff

If you are familiar with Day9's more recent stuff, don't let that scare you off from these podcasts and videos. If you want reliable, insightful strategy discussion, these are all you really need. He covers pretty much everything at a time close enough to the end of pro Brood War that it never became irrelevant.

Day9 Audio Series
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89581

Day9 Video Series
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=335184
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 02:18:52
November 26 2013 02:15 GMT
#2
I have no idea why I did this ;p Don't say your uncle Chef never tried to help you learn StarCraft.

If you think a guide should be here that isn't, post in the thread with this template:


[code]
[url=][/url]
[small][i][/i][/small]
[ /code]


and maybe one day I will get around to editing the OP with it. It doesn't have to be that recent, just has to seem applicable to modern play. Doesn't have to be a straight up BO guide either, if you think there's a good discussion with a lot of insight that's alright too.

If nothing else this can be a quick reference for contributors to see what's been posted, what areas are poorly discussed etc. All I did was go thru the last 12 pages or something of the forum looking for anything that looked like a guide.
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 02:32:37
November 26 2013 02:17 GMT
#3
Nice collections I'll make sure to peruse this soon and contribute
Do you think 2v2 Strategy threads are worth adding since 2v2 is still a popular game mode? The old "Recommended Threads" thread had 3 decent ones
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 26 2013 03:39 GMT
#4
Hell yeah! Please please sticky this for newcomers!
shaggles
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland108 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 10:50:41
November 26 2013 10:49 GMT
#5
In the section PvT i recommend adding this:


! [G] W.T.F. - A PvT Guide
by crescendo


This thread is kinda old, neverthless its worthy and hilarious as well. It focuses on philosophy and mindset rather than B.O.s. Fun to read.
I play the Chess of Computer Age
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 26 2013 14:12 GMT
#6
It's got ITW's Seal of Approval, so it must be quality!
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 26 2013 14:14 GMT
#7
Wow nice Chef ^^

I barely remember writing that VOD analysis of Sea vs Crazy-Hydra. Such a great game though :D
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
November 26 2013 17:51 GMT
#8
What a treasure hoard.
Nice hydra zvz guide.
That build changed my life.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
November 26 2013 20:14 GMT
#9
Personally feel that despite being a little dated that no T guide should be without this.

Stylish FPVods TvZ & TvP Build Orders and Explanations
StylishVODs January 27 2009 09:14
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
shaggles
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland108 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 20:36:10
November 26 2013 20:35 GMT
#10
And what about this thread:
Zerg Guide By Ahzz
Ahzz Finland. June 13 2008 19:15
It has still plenty of useful information, I guess, it is sort of accompanied by this:
Ahzz FPVODs
Ahzz Finland. April 30 2009 22:33
Dunno, whether all videos work now...

Finally another old one, needs verification, though(and I am not T):
! [G] DaZe advice for T's
DaZe Sweden. February 08 2007 21:26


I play the Chess of Computer Age
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines399 Posts
November 26 2013 21:12 GMT
#11
Nice Chef Good Job, this will be very helpful for the new comers.
NrT.Artunit
AleXoundOS
Profile Joined January 2011
Georgia457 Posts
November 26 2013 22:14 GMT
#12
nice
https://bwapi.github.io - An API for interacting with Starcraft: Broodwar (1.16.1)
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 23:16:46
November 26 2013 23:16 GMT
#13
Thanks traceurling, shaggles and DarkNetHunter.

If you use code tags, it will be easier for me since I won't have to quote your post to copy/paste it.
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chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 05:53:02
November 27 2013 05:12 GMT
#14
Nice thread, how about
! [G]The art of TvZ Han Bang-1 Vessel 3 Tank Timing
petzergling March 11 2009 00:33

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89286]! [G]The art of TvZ Han Bang-1 Vessel 3 Tank Timing[/url]
[small][i]petzergling March 11 2009 00:33[/i][/small]
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 10:15:15
November 27 2013 10:12 GMT
#15
Kau's Proxy Hatch Guide
Kau Canada August 21 2010 17:37

+ Show Spoiler [Code] +
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146071[G]Kau's Proxy Hatch Guide[/url]
[small][i]Kau Canada August 21 2010 17:37[/i][/small]
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 17:43:34
November 27 2013 17:43 GMT
#16
external guide by Ver on how to improve

How to improve - Ver
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 27 2013 20:11 GMT
#17
I read about 12 pages of that and it's kinda gross, but I added it anyway for completeness Here's a gem:

Losing to stupid things will happen and there might be a point where you can beat a decent player
who plays correctly yet lose to a poor one who uses inferior strategies.


Straight out of Idra's diary hahaha. I would advise Day9 over Ver, since they take on the same topics but Day strikes me as vastly more realistic and understanding of how to develop strategies as well as skill. Ver is also very wordy and uncharismatic in his style, insulting pros and taking a whole page or two to say 'probably a good idea to study Flash cause he's the best.' By contrast on the same topic Day has said things like choose a pro's style which you LIKE and WANT to play, which is probably a much more effective way to make your brain care about what you're learning. "copy flash" is pretty derpy advice.

Just had to rant about that for a minute ;p
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Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 04:46:35
November 28 2013 03:44 GMT
#18
Could we use this thread to collect strategical videos too? I think that would make it the ultimate strategy thread in the BW forums here. I really want to link to stylish's thread, but it is mostly strategy vids, rather than a guide perhaps. Also ifu.pauline's last two vids would fit if that were the case.

edit: already done
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9497 Posts
November 30 2013 13:41 GMT
#19
Stickied.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 30 2013 16:00 GMT
#20
2pac thank you! glad to see bw forums being updated
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