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This sticky is our primary resource linking us to other guides, builds, and discussions initiated by other TeamLiquid member. Please use this thread first before asking questions. It's highly likely that someone else has posed your question in the past and someone knowledgeable has answered already.

If you see empty guides for a particular champion, feel free to write one yourself and PM me afterward to look it over. Here at TeamLiquid, we hold our members to not only a certain code of conduct, but also a level of quality when it comes to writing. Many of us have put a sincere effort when we make our guides, so you're expected to have equal enthusiasm when submitting material.

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+ Show Spoiler [Champion Summary for Novices] +
If you’ve ever gone to the official League of Legends website, you know that their champion database is rather flawed. They have Kassadin listed as a melee DPS champion, Galio as a tank, etc. This list is intended to give newbies a friendly idea of what each champion is typically capable of.

General Terms and Definitions:
DPS: Abbreviation for “Damage per Second”; typically champions that deal the majority of their damage with auto attacks. They utilize offensive items that provide +Attack Damage (+AD) and Armor Pen.
Caster: Champions that use their four spells to inflict damage. They utilize offensive items that provide +Ability Power (+AP) and Magic Pen.
Carry: Champion on your team that dishes out the majority of your team’s damage. DPS carries are considered “hard carries” and can come in ranged or melee forms. Caster carries are considered “soft carries”.
Anti-Carry: Champion on your team that is responsible for quickly dispatching the enemy carry or any enemy champion when possible. They set your side up for team fights with favorable odds. Think of an assassin.
Tank: Champion with a lot of durability, in the form of HP/Armor/MR) and preferably has some form of CC
CC: Abbreviation for “Crowd Control”. Usually spells that Stun and Root enemy champions but not limited to Silences and Snares.
Utility: Champions that do not fit the archetypes previously mentioned but have a certain niche role
AoE: Abbreviation for “Area of Effect”. Spells that can affect multiple targets simultaneously
Solo: Champions that excel for your team if given solo Top or Middle lanes
Lane: Champions that work well with an ally in Bottom lane

Akali: Class/Traits: Caster, Anti-Carry, Solo / Stealth
Akali is a ninja that has a strong burst with her ultimate and Q. While not innately able to cast stealth on herself, she has a spell that allows her to drop a cloud over an area and becomes stealth when she walks into the cloud

Alistar: Class/Traits: Tank, Lane, CC (Knock-Up + Knock-Back)
Alistar is a durable bull Champion with two forms of CC. His Q is an AoE Knock-Up which stuns. His W can physically push enemy champions towards your team or away from your team, depending on Alistar’s position.

Amumu: Class/Traits: Tank, Jungle, CC (Ranged Stun + AoE Root)
Amumu is an emo mummy that can tank and jungle for your team. His Q throws a bandage at an enemy. If the bandage connects, it stuns and pull Amumu towards the enemy. Q + R is a great team fight initiator.

Anivia: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, CC (Ranged Prompted Stun + Snares)
Anivia the ice phoenix is a caster with immense burst potential. She is also equipped with an array of snares and a stun.

Annie: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, CC (Stocked up Stun, possibly AoE)
Annie is a caster with 3 offensive spells. Every 4th spell she casts, her spell gain the potential to stun her target(s).

Ashe: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Solo, CC (Single Target Stun, AoE Snare)
Ranged DPS champion who’s ultimate does a single target stun and snares any enemy champion in the vicinity.

Blitzcrank: Utility, Lane, CC (AoE Silence) / Single Target Hook (like DotA’s Pudge Meat Hook)
While very durable, Blitz lacks the traits of a true tank. Possess an AoE Silence, best used to cancel enemy channeling spells. To maximize Blitz’s team potential, user must be proficient at landing his hooks

Cassopeia:

Caitlynn:

Cho'Gath: Class/Traits: Caster, Tank, Solo, Lane, CC (AoE Knock-Up, AoE Silence)
Cho’Gath is a multifaceted champion. With innately high base HP and bonus HP from his ultimate, he functions well as a Caster or Tank. Best used to disrupt the entire enemy team with his two AoE spells.

Corki: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Solo / Blind, Jump
A very AoE based DPS Carry. Valkyrie is primarily used as a mobility spell and has the ability to jump across walls/cliffs. Besides AoE damage, Q also has a Blind component.

Dr. Mundo: Class/Traits: DPS, Tank, Lane
Mundo skills take a cost of an amount of HP, instead of mana. Mundo’s Cleaver (Q) does a % of enemy’s health as damage, making Mundo rather good against tanky teams.

Evelynn: Class/Traits: DPS, Caster, Lane, CC (Single Target Stun) / Stealth, Counter-Jungle
While having stealth means Eve is an excellent ganker, she has a niche role for being an anti-jungle. Ward the enemy jungle and beeline to enemy Red/Blue buff and gank the enemy jungler before they can get their buff.

Ezreal: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Solo / Jump
Ez is a highly mobile DPS Carry with one of the best poking skills in the game. Arcane Shift (E) acts as a Jump, allowing Ez to get across barriers.

Fiddlesticks: Class/Traits: Caster, Jungle, CC (Single Target Fear, AoE Silence)
A unique jungler, Fiddlesticks is not a tanky champion. However, Crowstorm makes for an amazing team fight changer. Dark Wind (E) Silences multiple targets. Be sure to Fear (Q) the enemy carry.

Galio: Class/Traits: Caster, Lane, CC (AoE Snare, AoE Taunt) / AoE Move Speed Buff
Galio has great farming potential with (E) + (Q). His passive allows him to gain AP off of stacking MR, making him a great pick against teams heavily invested in AP damage.

Gangplank: Class/Traits: Utility, Solo, Lane, DPS / Deny
Gangplank is unique as he is the only champion in LoL that can Deny (kill allied minions). By starting out with (E), Gangplank and make sure his lane will outlevel his enemies. Itemize “Crit Damage” items such as Infinity Edge and Phantom Dancer.

Garen: Class/Traits: Utility, Lane, CC (Single Target Silence) / Anti-Tank
Garen’s skills cost nothing and are limited only by cooldown. Garen needs a mix of AD and survivability. His ulti does more damage the more hp the enemy target is missing. This makes Garen a great anti-tank executioner.

Gragas: Class/Traits: Tank, Caster, Solo, Lane, CC (AoE Snare, AoE Knock-Back) / Jump
Gragas fulfills a niche role as a Tanky DPS. His damage comes from his spells which have excellent AP ratio. Gragas’ Body Slam, which is usually used as a snare but has the ability to jump walls.

Heimerdinger: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, Lane, CC (AoE Stun and Blind)
With mini turrets, Heimer is king of tower sieging. His (E) has the dual utility of Stun and Blind but is one of the hardest skill shots to land.

Irelia: Class/Traits: DPS, Anti-Carry, Solo, CC (Single Target Stun/Snare)
Much like Akali, Irelia can close the distance between her and her enemy in a matter of seconds. What makes her a better choice is her passive. Ionian Fervor lets Irelia to heavily negate CC in 5v5 team fights.

Janna: Class/Traits: Support, Lane, CC (AoE Knock-Up, AoE Knock-Back
Janna’s (E) provides an ally +HP and +AD for the duration of the spell. Definitely the premiere support choice for teams with more than 1 DPS champion. Ultimate acts as a subtle reset button for team fights.

Jarvan IV: Class/Trait: DPS, Carry, Lane, CC (AoE Knock-Up, AoE Wall)

Jax: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Lane, CC (AoE Stun)
Subpar DPS melee champion. Jax requires a lot of farm but cannot do so effectively. If game lasts long enough, he can become a potential threat.

Karthus: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, CC (AoE Snare)
Champion with the best ability to rack up kills and assists with. Karthus is a solid Caster with a very high skill cap. Aiming Lay Waste (Q) will take some practice.

Karma: Class/Trait: Support, Lane

Kassadin: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, CC (Single Target Silence, AoE Snare) / Jump
Can play out as an effective Anti-Carry but his role is far more versatile. Force Pulse (E) allows Kass to snare the entire team multiple times in one team fight.

Katarina: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo / Jump
Despite able to build Kat both AD or AP, her main source of damage, Death Lotus (R) is magic damage. Hybrid builds such as Hextech Gunblade is not uncommon. Kat’s Jump (E) is unique in that she requires an actual target (ally or enemy) to jump to. She cannot Jump to empty space.

Kayle: Class/Traits: DPS, Solo, Lane, CC (Single Target Snare)
Kayle wrecks down towers with her (E). Her passive allows for AD/AP double dipping, making Guinsoo’s Rageblade a must on her.

Kennen: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, CC (AoE Stun)
One of the three ninjas in LoL, Kennen’s skills use Energy, instead of Mana. Kennen has the potential to stun the entire enemy team simultaneous but risks putting himself in the front line. Zhonya’s Hourglass is highly recommended to keep himself alive.

Kog'Maw: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Solo, CC (AoE Snare) / Reveal
A particularly long rage DPS like Tristana, Kog scales very well with Bloodrazor and Attack Speed. His ultimate has an unique ability to Reveal stealthed units.

LeBlanc: Class/Trait: Caster, Solo, CC (Single Target Slow/Bind, Single Target Silence)

Lux: Class/Traits: Caster, Lane, CC (Single/Dual Target Root, AoE Snare)
Lux is a rare long-range Caster that keep the enemy at bay. Her ulti allows her to deal significant damage from screens away.

Malphite: Class/Traits: Tank, Solo, Lane, CC (Single Target Snare, AoE Knock-Up)
A tanky DPS like Gragas. Itemizes tanky builds but his (E) scales in damage the more armor Malphite has. His (R) is a great team fight initator.

Malzahar: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, CC (AoE Silence, Single Target Stun) / Suppression
In terms of team fights, Malzahar is the Caster analog of Warwick. His ultimate is a Suppression, meaning it is unCleanseable. All four of his spells are offensively based.

Maokai: Class/Traits: Tank, Lane, CC (Single Target Root)

Master Yi: Class/Traits: DPS, Jungle
Master Yi’s ultimate greatly increases his Move Speed and Attack Speed, making him an optimal DPS choice. His greatest strength is that his ultimate refreshes immediately for every kill or assist Master Yi scores. Alpha Strike (Q) is a great de-aggro nuke, making Master Yi unclickable during the cast animation.

Miss Fortune: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Solo, CC (AoE Snare)
One of the quickest moving DPS Carries in the game, MF excels at positioning herself optimally in team fights. She kites very well with her high Move Speed and AoE Snare spell (E).

Mordekaiser: Class/Traits: Utility, Solo
Morde is a niche champion, one of the best farmers in the game. While he is very durable, he has zero CC to speak of. His greatest strength is his ability to turn a 5v5 fight into 6v4 with his ultimate. His skill use up some HP.

Morgana: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, Lane, CC (Single Target Snare, AoE Snare/Stun)
Although not technically a Support class champion, Morg’s Black Shield (E) has a wide array of uses. It effectively negates any spell effect and absorbs an amount of spell damage. Ideal for protecting your low hp allies.

Nasus: Class/Traits: Tank, Lane, CC (Single Target Snare)
A tank that is effective against enemy tanks. Spirit Fire (E) reduces the armor of multiple enemy champions. Nasus is at his strongest in a full 5v5 team fight.

Nidalee: Class/Traits: Caster, Anti-Carry, Solo / Jump
Nidalee actually has 6 skills to speak of. During her Cougur form, none of her spells cost any mana. Her Couger also has a Jump ability that allows her to hop over walls and ledges.

Nocturne: Class/Trait: DPS, Jungle, Solo, CC (Single Target Fear) / Global

Nunu: Class/Traits: Tank, Caster, Support, Jungle (Single Target Snare, AoE Snare)
The yeti is a jack of all trades. With naturally high HP, he’s geared to be a secondary tank for your team. His incredible AP ratios make him a viable Caster. Consume (Q) allows Nunu to regenerate off jungle monsters.

Olaf: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Jungle, CC (AoE Snare)
Olaf is one of two Junglers who can do their tasks without investing in a Razor. Late game, Olaf needs to snipe down enemy carries. His ultimate allows him to negate all CC for a short period of time.

Pantheon: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Solo, CC (Single Target Stun) / Global
Melee DPS who does the majority of his damage not through auto attacking but by combo’ing his skills. Two of his spells scale with AD, making Panth a DPS champion still. His ultimate allows him to reposition himself anywhere on the map, bring a quick stun to any team fight.

Poppy: Class/Traits: DPS, Caster, Anti-Carry, Lane, CC (Single Target Stun)
Poppy can be played as a AP burst champion or a DPS burst champion. Her ultimate creates a 1v1 scenario where only 1 enemy champion can damage or impact her for the duration of her ultimate.

Rammus: Class/Traits: Tank, Jungle, CC (AoE Snare, Single Target Taunt)
Another Jungler that is not Razor dependent. Rammus with his (Q) + (E) combo has the longest single champion CC duration in the game. His ultimate is also unique as it can damage towers.

Renekton: Class/Trait: Tank, DPS, Solo, CC (Single Target Stun)

Ryze: Class/Traits: Caster, Lane, CC (Single Target Root)
Ryze is a Caster that is great at dealing burst damage in an AoE fashion. However his lack in both mobility and survivability holds him back from being a successful soft carry.

Shaco: Class/Traits: DPS, Anti-Carry, Jungle, CC (AoE Fear) / Stealth, Jump
Shaco is your textbook assassin. He can pop into stealth and reappear behind an enemy champion to backstab him. His stealth (Q) also allows him to jump across barriers.

Shen: Class/Traits: Tank, Lane, CC (AoE Taunt) / Global
As one of the three ninjas, Shen’s skill uses Energy, instead of mana. Shen is a great secondary tank. His ultimate protects an ally and teleports Shen to his side. A Dash (E) followed by an ultimate will de-aggro your ally and effectively saving him.

Singed: Class/Traits: Tank, Caster, Lane, CC (AoE Snare, Single Target Knock-Back)
A premiere farmer, Singed can clear creep waves just by running around. In fact, it is always a bad idea to directly chase a Singed due to his Poison Gas.

Sion: Class/Traits: Caster, Solo, Carry, CC (Single Target Stun)
Sion has a lot of innate HP but his skills gear him towards the AP spectrum. Death’s Caress (W) is Sion’s main farming and team fight skill. He also has a ranged stun, ensuring at least one enemy champion will take damage from his W.

Sivir: Class/Traits: DPS, Solo, Carry
A very straight forward DPS Carry, Sivir is not equipped with any CC but in exchange, she has a lot of AoE damage between her Boomerang Blade (Q) and Ricochet (W). Her ulti increases her team’s Move Speed and Attack Speed, allowing her allies to position themselves optimally in team fights.

Sona: Class/Traits: Support, Lane, CC (AoE Stun)
Equipped with a nuke, heal, and team move speed buff, Sona is versatile in her role as support. Her strongest suit is her ability to disable the entire enemy team if she is positioned correctly.

Soraka: Class/Traits: Support, Lane, CC (Single Target Silence)
Soraka is a support heavily invested in regeneration. She has two heals (W) + (R) and the only mana regen spell (E) in the game. Her (E) can also be used offensively as a nuke with a silencing ability.

Swain: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, CC (AoE Root, Single Target Snare)
Unlike most Casters, Swain does not have great burst damage. Instead, he has sustained damage and he does best in prolonged fights. Swain prefers to fight in team fights and not in 1v1 situations.

Taric: Class/Traits: Support, Lane, CC (Single Target Stun)
Taric is a support with a lot of utility. He can heal, stun, and provide extra armor to his entire team. Taric’s (R) gives his team a huge boost in offense and heals.

Teemo: Class/Traits: DPS, Caster, Solo, Anti-Carry, Lane, CC (AoE Snare, Single Target Blind)
Equipped with a Blind skill with a relatively short cooldown, Teemo is the bane of any DPS champion. Move Quick (W) greatly increases his speed, allowing him to kite with his poisonous auto attack.

Tristana: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Solo, CC (AoE Snare, Single Target Knock-Back)
At level 18, Tristana has the longest auto attack range in the game. She can kite effectively with Lizard buff and quickly close the gap to her enemies with Rocket Jump (W). Her ulti is a nuke with a Knock-Back effect. You can use this defensively to kick enemies away or offensively to push an enemy towards your allies to pounce on.

Trundle: Class/Traits: Tank, Jungle, CC (AoE Snare) / Anti-Tank
The troll of LoL reduces the effectiveness of enemy champions. His (Q) reduces a single enemy’s AD and add it to his own, ideal to target the enemy DPS champion. Trundle’s (R) puts himself in a better position than the enemy tank by sapping the enemy tank’s armor and MR.

Tryndamere: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Lane, CC (AoE Snare) / Jump
Tryndamere’s spells require hp to use but he can also regain hp quickly through his (Q). His (W) is an AoE Snare only when the enemy has their back turned to Trynd.

Twisted Fate: Class/Traits: DPS, Caster, Solo, CC (Single Target Stun/Snare, AoE Snare) / Global
Capable of playing both side of the attack spectrum, TF works well in AD and AP forms. His greatest strength is his Global Teleport. By locking a gold card (W), TF can bring a ranged stun to any team fight.

Twitch: Class/Traits: DPS, Carry, Solo, CC (AoE Snare) / Stealth
The only ranged DPS carry with stealth. Capitalize your position in team fights by unstealthing only when you are ready. Twitch can essentially dictate team fights on his own.

Udyr: Class/Traits: Tank, Jungle, CC (Single Target Stun) / No Ultimate
Udyr is the only champion without an ultimate. Instead, he has 4 stances. Two for DPS purposes, one for tanking, one for Move Speed.

Urgot: Class/Traits: DPS, Anti-Carry, Solo / Suppression
Comboing (Q) + (E), Urgot and nuke a single champion from a large distance away. His Ulti switches his position with enemy champion’s. During the casting animation, Urgot’s Ulti is also a Suppression ability.

Veigar: Class/Traits: Caster, Solo, Lane, CC (AoE Stun) / Anti-Caster
Veigar is most effective against heavy AP teams. His Ulti does even more damage when his target has a lot of AP. His AoE Stun also has the largest diameter in the game.

Vladimir: Class/Traits: Caster, Carry, Solo, CC (AoE Snare)
Vlad’s spells do not cost HP, but a certain percentage of his health. His primary skill, Transfusion (Q) functions as a nuke and self-heal. Hemoplague (R) works well with other AoE spells your team has.

Warwick: Class/Traits: DPS, Jungle, CC (Single Target Stun) / Suppression
The quintessential jungler, Warwick excels at buff control and ganking. Building a Bloodrazor gives his team a strong Dragon and Baron presence. WW’s ulti is a Suppression spell, meaning it cannot be Cleansed.

Xin Zhao: Class/Traits: DPS, Lane, CC (Single Target Knock-Up, AoE Snare)
An excellent lane with an array of CC during early game. Xin is a great ally for junglers trying to gank. Late game, as long as you get your ulti off on the entire enemy team, you have essentially done your part in the team fight.

Zilean: Class/Traits: Caster, Support, Lane, CC (Single Target Snare)
While Zilean does not have any healing abilities, his support role enables his team greater mobility in team fights. Zilean’s ultimate grants his target a second life after he dies. Be sure to spam Rewind (W) as often as possible when the ulti is on cooldown.

Credit to oberon for the original idea for this list

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+ Show Spoiler [Champion List and Links] +
Akali:
Westrice's Akali 27.03.11
Alistar:
Lane Alistar 10.02.11
Reep's Alistar Guide 26.01.11
Amumu:
Jungle Amumu 18.02.11
Anivia:
Anivia 02.12.10
Annie:
Annie 04.11.10
Ashe:
CDR Ashe 13.11.2010
Blitzcrank:
Doublelift's Blitz 03.12.10
Caitlynn:
DPS Caitlynn 09.01.11
Cho'Gath:
Tank Chogath 08.11.10
Corki:
Corki 06.11.10
Dr. Mundo:
Evelynn:
Tank Evelynn 08.11.10
Ezreal:
DPS Ezreal 29.01.11
Voyboy's Ezreal 26.03.11
Fiddlesticks:
Galio:
Gangplank:
Critplank and Tankplank 05.11.10
Garen:
Fastest Garen 19.01.11
Tanky DPS Garen 29.01.11
Gragas:
Heimerdinger:
Heimer 10.11.10
Dan Dinh's Heimer 15.08.10
Irelia:
Janna:
Support Janna 10.11.10
Jarvan IV:
Lane/Jungle Jarvan 03.03.11
Jax:
Lane Jax 05.11.10
Dyrus's Jax 27.03.11
Karma:
Karthus:
Kassadin:
AP Kassadin 06.11.10
Katarina:
Kayle:
Kennen:
Kennen 05.11.10
Salce's Kennen Encompassing guide to Kennen by a top elo player 30.09.10
Kog'Maw:
LeBlanc:
Malphite:
Malzahar:
Maokai:
Master Yi:
Jungle Yi 29.01.11
Miss Fortune:
Mordekaiser:
Morgana:
Nasus:
Tank Nasus 10.11.10
Nidalee:
AP/Flee Nidalee 06.11.10
Nocturne:
Nunu:
TheOddOne's Nunu 27.03.2011
Olaf:
Jungle Olaf 05.11.10
Pantheon:
LoCierco's Pantheon 07.11.10
bigfatjiji Pantheon VOD featuring SpudBoy on Kennen
Poppy:
AP and DPS (Trinity) Poppy 16.01.11
Rammus:
Jungle Rammus 22.11.10
bigfatjiji Jungle Rammus VOD
Renekton:
Voyboy's Renekton 27.03.11
Ryze:
Shaco:
Shen:
Lane Shen 07.11.10
bigfatjiji lane Shen VOD
Singed:
Dyrus's Singed 27.03.11
Sion:
AP Sion 15.01.11
Sivir:
DPS Sivir 06.11.10
Sona:
Support/AP Sona 04.11.10
Soraka:
Swain:
Swain 19.11.2010
Taric:
Support Taric 04.11.10
Teemo:
AP Teemo 04.02.11
Tristana:
Locodoco's Tristana 27.03.11
Trundle:
Jungle Trundle 10.12.10
DontMashMe's Trundle 27.03.11
Tryndamere:
Jungle Trynd 06.02.11
Twisted Fate:
AP Twisted Fate 07.11.10
DPS Twisted Fate 07.11.10
bigfatjiji DPS TF VOD very amusing if you understand mandarin
Twitch:
Udyr:
Phoenix Udyr 15.01.11
Urgot:
Lane Urgot 04.11.10
Veigar:
Locket Veigar 24.11.2010
Vladimir:
AP Vlad 07.01.11
Warwick:
Jungle Warwick 04.11.10
Jungle Warwick 06.12.10
Xin Zhao:
DPS Xin 16.11.10
Zilean:

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+ Show Spoiler [LoL Who’s Who (Bigpros List)] +
This section is dedicated to list players who are exceptional with certain champions. The disclaimer is the list is my (NeoIllusions’s) personal opinion.
How this will be beneficial for us is that anyone can look these players’ profiles up and look at their mastery, rune, and item setup. For those particular TeamLiquid names listed, it’s best to hit them up in LiquidParty if you think you need help with those champions.
Italicized names will represent players who were once exceptional but have fallen off, mostly due to inactivity. More of an FYI and homage if you will.

Akali: Westrice, Burninator
Alistar: Reep, Chauster, Bulgog
Amumu: laoching, gnuphilly
Anivia: bigfatjiji, ManyReason, a Lilac, MegaZero
Annie: TheOddOne, Salce, Jigsaw, laoching
Ashe: EzPzLmnSqz, Classick, Gattsu, Korean
Blitzcrank: DoubleLift, Akatosh
Caitlynn: bigfatjiji
Cassopeia:
Cho'Gath: 5HITCOMBO, Ardoz
Corki: Valkrin, Voyboy, MrGrimm999
Dr. Mundo: Chauster, MegaZero
Evelynn:
Ezreal: Xpecial, Chauster, bigfatjiji, ManyReason, Yiruru
Fiddlesticks:
Galio:
Gangplank: Feel no Fear
Garen: Chauster
Gragas: nicosharp, mmkh
Heimerdinger: saintvicious, Dan Dinh
Irelia: Atlanta, Sologamer
Janna: agip33, Zirun, Lassiz
Jarvan IV:
Jax: Dyrus
Karma:
Karthus: ScarletDoom, pdiz
Kassadin: Jougonaut, DogKaiser, Sabertiger, Utahime
Katarina: Furor
Kayle: Classick
Kennen: Xpecial, L0CUST, Salce
Kog'Maw: good
LeBlanc: MakNooN
Lux: NintendudeX, ManyReason, Roku
Malphite: Sologamer
Malzahar: saintvicious
Maokai:
Master Yi: Strelo, Asier, KingdeathRat,Frozt
Miss Fortune: EzPzLmnSqz, Yiruru
Mordekaiser: grandjudge
Morgana: LoCicero, Chauster, TreeEskimo, grandjudge
Nasus: LoCicero
Nidalee: HotShotgg
Nocturne:
Nunu: Dan Dinh, Araragi, Frozt
Olaf: lilballz, NintendudeX, SpudBoy
Pantheon: MakNooN, LoCicero, SmashGizmo
Poppy:
Rammus:
Renekton:
Ryze: sxspp, DongPi
Shaco: ReginaId, Kobe24, nolja, xiaobing, jambie2
Shen: laoching, Sabertiger
Singed: Dyrus, Gun, grandjudge, Jihu, DT777
Sion: MrTheZebra
Sivir: Yiruru, Ana AnaRis
Sona:
Soraka: puregoldenboy
Swain: Doublelift
Taric: Sabertiger
Teemo: The Rain Man, BigMcLargeHuge
Tristana: Locodoco, Atlanta, Korean
Trundle: DontMashMe
Tryndamere: h4ckerv2
Twisted Fate: bigfatjiji, ManyReason, cFangNasty
Twitch: Dan Dinh, nolja, SpudBoy, Qtips
Udyr: lilballz, Guardsman Bob, Jatt, Kobe24, nolja, Frozt
Urgot: BruiseLeet
Veigar: LoCicero
Vladimir: SYDTKO, Salce
Warwick: SpudBoy, lilballz, L0CUST, Kobe24, Guardsman Bob, Frozt
Xin Zhao: ChrispySC, Guardsman Bob
Zilean: bigfatjiji, calimist

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+ Show Spoiler [Strategies] +
Basic Jungling (How To and Why)
Jungling Tactics
Caster Strategies
Ranged DPS Strategies
Late Game Strategy

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Patch Notes Discussion
Live Stream List
LiquidParty Who's Who
Doublelift's Guide to Generalness
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 03 2010 21:20 GMT
#2
use wiki as a starting point imo, already has quite a bit of good stuff
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 21:21:04
November 03 2010 21:20 GMT
#3
Good idea. One thread for every hero isn't really practical (I can already imagine the Garen thread..) so a compilation of guides/strats will help.

Edit: Also yeah transferring material from the wiki would be a good start.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 21:20:40
November 03 2010 21:20 GMT
#4
I'm not sure how much we should be putting this stuff in threads as opposed to the wiki, what do other people think about this?
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 21:22:32
November 03 2010 21:21 GMT
#5
I think people can post guides here, and then get it linked to the wiki. Would organize discussion better I think?

Edit:
Giant posts are really unwieldy to edit etc., it's why I made the wiki. It's just really impractical wading through like 10 pages of BBCode updating something, hahah.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
November 03 2010 21:22 GMT
#6
But if we're going to have a thread dedicated to each champ, wouldn't we want guides in their respective threads?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 03 2010 21:22 GMT
#7
On November 04 2010 06:20 Mogwai wrote:
I'm not sure how much we should be putting this stuff in threads as opposed to the wiki, what do other people think about this?


Ideally, the wiki would be the best place for stuff like this but imo, it's easier to just type something up on the TL site and share it. There are some people who haven't editted a wiki before or can't be bothered. Would make sense to take whatever is found here and include it in the wiki for future reference.
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Fishcakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States149 Posts
November 03 2010 21:23 GMT
#8
Well all our wiki guides are just basically links back to the forum,,,
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 03 2010 21:24 GMT
#9
On November 04 2010 06:21 Southlight wrote:
I think people can post guides here, and then get it linked to the wiki. Would organize discussion better I think?

Edit:
Giant posts are really unwieldy to edit etc., it's why I made the wiki. It's just really impractical wading through like 10 pages of BBCode updating something, hahah.


I've edited forum OP posts for Travian for years now, haha. I'm more comfortable with this tbh. You can take my complied info and c/p to the wiki in the end.
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 03 2010 21:27 GMT
#10
I'm more leaning to 1 thread per champion to keep information from having to be linked everywhere. It's much easier to go and be like "oh i want to play kennen, i'll read the 5 page kennen thread and be up to snuff" rather than trying to wade through pages and pages of posts that probably dont have anything to do with what you want to know. It will lead to more threads inevitably but it will keep things easier to read and have less "how to play kennen? runes masteries etc?" posts because you can just look for the thread (which worse case scenario won't be on the front page)
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 21:32:37
November 03 2010 21:28 GMT
#11
Well it seems we are at a crossroads right now. The wiki was initially created to summarize the information in the thread because it was much more difficult to post a link to an answer to a question which has already been answered. With a forum we can simply direct them to the appropriate thread.

If we keep the wiki and use it as the go-to resource for answers then this forum might die since we (as posters) can't post general game discussion anymore without creating a new topic (which as I understand is frowned upon).

With the number of champions in the game a discussion thread for each will be time consuming to maintain but it would be simpler for posters to get their specific questions answered whereas a general "all purpose" Q/A thread will likely result in a similar thread to the one which was just closed.

IMO, things from the wiki should be consolidated here into separate threads because as I already mentioned, it was created to summarize the information in the thread because we did not have a forum which does that for us, but now we do (<3 TL mods).

Edit: Champion thread OPs could be as simple as:

<Champion Photo>

Skills

TL Recommended Items

Skilling Order

Runes / Masteries

Play style

and the discussion part of the thread could be questions about the champion or people debating different builds to the general "TL Recommended" one.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 03 2010 21:29 GMT
#12
Eh, ok. I guess that makes a little more sense if a Kennen thread holds all the content for Kennen builds and play styles. I'll update the OP accordingly to any thorough posts about any particular champion.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 03 2010 21:31 GMT
#13
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
November 03 2010 21:32 GMT
#14
Yeah, we can have both individual champion threads and this thread for all guides. So when the fotm champ thread inevitably explodes 50 pages, you still have direct links to each guide within that thread here.
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
November 03 2010 21:32 GMT
#15
In that case a stickied thread (ie. this one) can just link to every Champion's thread so you don't have to look through 3 pages of threads to find the buried Ashe thread, etc.
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 03 2010 21:33 GMT
#16
On November 04 2010 06:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
Eh, ok. I guess that makes a little more sense if a Kennen thread holds all the content for Kennen builds and play styles. I'll update the OP accordingly to any thorough posts about any particular champion.



It just makes more sense for future moderation to say if someone starts a new thread or asks a question that has already been answered in a fairly small thread then they should receive swift justice for being lazy because these rules are fairly clearcut.

You talk about Kennen in the Kennen thread.
Read the Kennen thread before you ask about Kennen.
If you ask something about Kennen in the Kennen thread that is already available you will be warned.

It wastes everyones time and I'm sure people will be more responsive if they have a very simple system to find information.

That being said it is up to the OP of the thread to update the op with relevant information weekly (that sounds fair) so that if the champion is really popular and the thread is really big it is not necessary to read 25 pages of a thread to learn how to jungle effectively as warwick.
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 03 2010 21:34 GMT
#17
On November 04 2010 06:32 H wrote:
In that case a stickied thread (ie. this one) can just link to every Champion's thread so you don't have to look through 3 pages of threads to find the buried Ashe thread, etc.


There's only like 50 champions right now. A simple ctrl + F and the first 4 letters of a champions name will quickly yield results. That being said an OP with a quick link is also nice.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 03 2010 22:05 GMT
#18
Wouldn't it be easier to just have a locked sticky with each champion. The opening post has the champions in ABC order with links to the relevant post. When said champion gets updated the post in that thread is changed so you don't have to sort through 10000 lines of BBC code to edit a single champion. I'd suggest this is a special new LoL TL member that all the top players has access to so one person doesn't have to bear the burden of updating it.

This would just be the simple TL recommend cookie cutter stuff and we could have multiples for certain heroes like AD/AP variants for a champion like Sion. Just means he gets two posts and gets to feel special.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 03 2010 22:07 GMT
#19
On November 04 2010 06:32 H wrote:
In that case a stickied thread (ie. this one) can just link to every Champion's thread so you don't have to look through 3 pages of threads to find the buried Ashe thread, etc.


this is why i want this thread, just for it to be stickied so ppl can just see 'oh, links to all the champ threads/guides/whatever' instead of scrolling thru pages looking for the particular thread you were looking for.
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MrShank
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada144 Posts
November 03 2010 22:11 GMT
#20
theres no lablanc
Relax - its just a game
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 03 2010 22:11 GMT
#21
I'm working on a Warwick guide atm. It'll be formatted to what I consider ideal. Hopefully it'll be pretty and organized enough for other to piggy back off of in the future. Give me about 10 more min, thanks.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 03 2010 22:12 GMT
#22
i think each champ should get their own subform. then we can discuss in detail their jungle routes, best and worst matchups, potential item builds, what to do in every situation that can ever come up, as well as

+ Show Spoiler +
DEMACIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 03 2010 22:12 GMT
#23
On November 04 2010 07:11 MrShank wrote:
theres no lablanc


I doubt there's Swain or Lux up there either. I just copied what the official website had available atm.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
November 03 2010 22:17 GMT
#24
On November 04 2010 07:12 gtrsrs wrote:
i think each champ should get their own subform. then we can discuss in detail their jungle routes, best and worst matchups, potential item builds, what to do in every situation that can ever come up, as well as

+ Show Spoiler +
DEMACIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


imoimomio

I think we need the best of both worlds. A thread for each champ is good but can't be stickied for obvious reasons. This one can be stickied. So just make a thread for each champion AND a stickied thread with links to champion threads.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 03 2010 22:22 GMT
#25
your wiki largely links back to the forum. i gaurantee you will find this thread more useful in the future. stickied
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 03 2010 22:35 GMT
#26
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166127

WW guide up. Formatted it nicely where it's easy on the eyes. Also, no incredible wall of text, which makes reading a bit more bearable, since there is a lot of info.

For the most part, two things:

1. If you're going to open a [Champion] thread, make some fucking effort. Let's do this to TL's level of quality like we see with StarCraft, yes?
2. Keep the OP geared towards Summoner's Rift. Use the thread later on to add in info about Twisted Treeline later.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 03 2010 22:52 GMT
#27
Do we have any volunteers to write guides for empty champions. I can write a good 20 of them but that's way time consuming, huk. Besides, I would concede certain champions to my superiors, like Kassadin to Uta, Panth to Mogwai, etc.

I'd like to see individual threads for all the champions by Dec, if it's not being too ambitious.

For the time being, I can churn out a Sona and Mordekaiser thread in the next 24 hours. lunek has expressed interest in Gangplank.
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 03 2010 22:57 GMT
#28
You should update the op with links. Also I do not think its necessary to churn out threads at a blazing pace. If someone feels compelled to do it, thats their prerogative.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 03 2010 23:00 GMT
#29
On November 04 2010 07:57 Phrost wrote:
You should update the op with links. Also I do not think its necessary to churn out threads at a blazing pace. If someone feels compelled to do it, thats their prerogative.


I'll update the OP every 24 hours. Seems a little narcessitic to update it now when there's only two guides up. I'll be on top of things, no worries Phrost.

As for churning out threads, consider me a little assertive. In my little imaginary world, TL could be the best source for LoL info, despite being an SC site. God knows there's a fucking lull of good LoL sites/info out there. Riot doesn't do much to help either.
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 03 2010 23:19 GMT
#30
On November 04 2010 08:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 07:57 Phrost wrote:
You should update the op with links. Also I do not think its necessary to churn out threads at a blazing pace. If someone feels compelled to do it, thats their prerogative.


I'll update the OP every 24 hours. Seems a little narcessitic to update it now when there's only two guides up. I'll be on top of things, no worries Phrost.

As for churning out threads, consider me a little assertive. In my little imaginary world, TL could be the best source for LoL info, despite being an SC site. God knows there's a fucking lull of good LoL sites/info out there. Riot doesn't do much to help either.


Ideally yes, but as fakesteve said, this is a starcraft site, not a LoL site.
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 03 2010 23:22 GMT
#31
Can you update the op and say that every thread should be titled in the format:

[Champion] Name

just so its easy to find wtf we're looking for
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 03 2010 23:33 GMT
#32
On November 04 2010 07:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
Do we have any volunteers to write guides for empty champions. I can write a good 20 of them but that's way time consuming, huk. Besides, I would concede certain champions to my superiors, like Kassadin to Uta, Panth to Mogwai, etc.

I'd like to see individual threads for all the champions by Dec, if it's not being too ambitious.

For the time being, I can churn out a Sona and Mordekaiser thread in the next 24 hours. lunek has expressed interest in Gangplank.

I'll try to get a nid guide up today.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 03 2010 23:39 GMT
#33
Now that I think about it, could we have a thread dedicated to a champion? I mean, there will be champs that will have different builds that different players use. Maybe start a thread for a champion where people can discuss different playstyles and ask questions?
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
November 04 2010 00:42 GMT
#34
working on a pro MUNDO guide
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 04 2010 02:34 GMT
#35
I'm gonna be writing a guide up for Taric over the next day or so.
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TacToSs
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia330 Posts
November 04 2010 04:26 GMT
#36
On November 04 2010 09:42 Tooplark wrote:
working on a pro MUNDO guide


I kind of feel like trying out Mundo this week so that'd be sick when you get it up
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
November 04 2010 11:14 GMT
#37
On November 04 2010 07:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
Do we have any volunteers to write guides for empty champions. I can write a good 20 of them but that's way time consuming, huk. Besides, I would concede certain champions to my superiors, like Kassadin to Uta, Panth to Mogwai, etc.

I'd like to see individual threads for all the champions by Dec, if it's not being too ambitious.

For the time being, I can churn out a Sona and Mordekaiser thread in the next 24 hours. lunek has expressed interest in Gangplank.


Well, I've taken a liking to Nasus and I'd be willing to produce something about him. The problem is that I'm not even level 30 yet, so the information provided will probably be substandard. Would it be ok for you if I do a write up and then keep updating it as I gain levels/rating?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 04 2010 11:18 GMT
#38
On November 04 2010 20:14 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 07:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
Do we have any volunteers to write guides for empty champions. I can write a good 20 of them but that's way time consuming, huk. Besides, I would concede certain champions to my superiors, like Kassadin to Uta, Panth to Mogwai, etc.

I'd like to see individual threads for all the champions by Dec, if it's not being too ambitious.

For the time being, I can churn out a Sona and Mordekaiser thread in the next 24 hours. lunek has expressed interest in Gangplank.


Well, I've taken a liking to Nasus and I'd be willing to produce something about him. The problem is that I'm not even level 30 yet, so the information provided will probably be substandard. Would it be ok for you if I do a write up and then keep updating it as I gain levels/rating?


Yep, go for it. Feel free to PM it to me and I'll look it over before you create the Nasus thread. I'll point out any glaring mistakes.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 04 2010 11:43 GMT
#39
I'm going to make one epic jungler thread where I list all of the champs that commonly jungle and all of the builds and all of the routes that they take.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
November 04 2010 14:24 GMT
#40
I should make the Nasus and Kennen threads so, by simple virtue of being the OP, it will imply that I'm the best Nasus and Kennen on TL.
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
November 04 2010 16:11 GMT
#41
I could make Jax and Sion guides, since I pretty much know the ins and outs of both. For Jax I could do a 3v3 subsection in the guide aswell, but I would have to know in advance if anyone would care because I haven't played him in 3s since the rework (not much changed for 3s since its mostly jungle and ganking).
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
November 04 2010 17:35 GMT
#42
What sort of credentials do you need to write a guide? I'd love to write one for Morgana or Malzahar, but I'm like 1500 ELO tops on a good day.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 04 2010 17:48 GMT
#43
On November 05 2010 02:35 Haemonculus wrote:
What sort of credentials do you need to write a guide? I'd love to write one for Morgana or Malzahar, but I'm like 1500 ELO tops on a good day.


No credentials, we're letting whoever is enthusiastic enough to write an article, to do so. Though it's up to my personal discretion (with Uta, Mogwai, etc, their input) whether or not to add it to the sticky. Not being a hard ass though. I mean if you put in the effort and I can tell, I will personally give advice/make corrections to ensure your hard word is recognized where other people can see.

"you" in the previous paragraph is simply a general "you". Not you, Haemonculus.
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
November 04 2010 18:56 GMT
#44
On November 04 2010 20:43 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I'm going to make one epic jungler thread where I list all of the champs that commonly jungle and all of the builds and all of the routes that they take.


That sounds pretty much amazing to me 'cause I'm trying to expand my jungling repertoire.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 04 2010 19:07 GMT
#45
Blitzcrack... is this a nickname I didn't know? aa.. BRITZCRACK?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 04 2010 19:08 GMT
#46
Obviously, Blitzcrack is his real name.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 04 2010 21:27 GMT
#47
On November 05 2010 02:35 Haemonculus wrote:
What sort of credentials do you need to write a guide? I'd love to write one for Morgana or Malzahar, but I'm like 1500 ELO tops on a good day.


your credentials are, "i am willing to regularly update my op so that important links get put in the proper place and ppl know what these links are"

honestly cant stress this enough, OP's are responsible (more or less) for their threads, and ppl who aren't willing to update them are just making it hard for other ppl. Honestly, an op can be filled with insane amounts of garbage and i wouldnt care if the top of the op had a bunch of links to intelligent discussion/ alternative guides by other players and is well maintained
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 05 2010 00:35 GMT
#48
oh someone please do Cho or Twisted Fate :D
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 05 2010 02:11 GMT
#49
Updated OP.

I'll do Twisted Fate per Kenpachi's request. Someone bug 5hit to rage less and make a guide for Cho. For our resident baddie, he does fairly consistent with Cho.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
November 05 2010 02:13 GMT
#50
Is anyone here friends with Laoching before he quit - I'd like to see a Shen rundown from him.
it's my first day
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 05 2010 02:15 GMT
#51
Laoching is serving in the military iirc. I'll talk to Chauster and see if I can get him to unload some laochink sekrets.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 04:03:41
November 05 2010 04:03 GMT
#52
Done with Nidalee thread, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166504
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
November 05 2010 04:36 GMT
#53
Ty for feature on the Jax guide, tbh just flag it as a complete guide, I think I covered everything that was needed for jungle aswell.
I might write a Sion guide tonight depending on whether hotshot/treeeskimo/the GW crew are streaming and if work isn't too heavy, but I can't guarantee anything.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 05 2010 13:22 GMT
#54
I'm a britzcrank. I'd like to upgrade to a Blitzcrack.
Please teach me! Someone!
The secrets to robot mastery.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 05 2010 17:22 GMT
#55
wtb a tristana guide asap !!
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 05 2010 20:54 GMT
#56
I guess I'll work on a Pantheon guide this weekend. And since there's a huge number of missing champions, I'll also try to crank out Garen and maybe Shen too.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 21:59:14
November 05 2010 21:58 GMT
#57
im hoping someone better than me will make an ez guide lol

but if like a week passes and no one does it i guess i will

or not really a guide just explain him some and link to other guides
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 06 2010 06:13 GMT
#58
Free Locodoco so he can write a Trist guide~!~!
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
November 06 2010 23:21 GMT
#59
In a couple days imma try out Alistar again, watching Reep play makes cowman look like a perfectly viable character.

He builds is extremely different from what I used to and switches items up a lot but I think I have more or less of an idea of how to play him...
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 07 2010 14:09 GMT
#60
Cho guide and Trist guide being drafted while I'm on break between teaching classes this week.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 07 2010 19:56 GMT
#61
Neo you suck at updating, I've been done with Nidalee thread for 3 days.
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byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
November 07 2010 22:14 GMT
#62
waiting for mogwais/smashgizmos pantheon guide!!! oO ))
(>°_°)>
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 07 2010 22:39 GMT
#63
On November 08 2010 04:56 HazMat wrote:
Neo you suck at updating, I've been done with Nidalee thread for 3 days.


You bad, diaf. I updated your guide to the list, just didn't take your name off the work in progress section.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
November 08 2010 19:18 GMT
#64
I should have a Nasus thread ready to go sometime tomorrow unless LoCicero/Ruken stop me.
it's my first day
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 09 2010 22:34 GMT
#65
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=284262

People want to buff kayle, I imagine these are the guys who aren't going GRB first...

Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 13 2010 02:03 GMT
#66
Someone make jungle Rammus guide please.
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Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
November 13 2010 21:28 GMT
#67
I might look into doing up a Jungle Akali + Rammus guide, not too great at them but just to give a general outline.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 14 2010 03:40 GMT
#68
I've actually been doing really good at jammus. My jungle route is a bit slower than it should be due to me running full aspd runes (no ip for armor) but it's no problem. Jammus winshuttle!
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
November 14 2010 05:14 GMT
#69
Heimer thread isn't linked here.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
November 14 2010 21:15 GMT
#70
can someone write a miniguide for jungle amumu?

just runes, masteries, route?
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
November 16 2010 23:18 GMT
#71
skin list
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=123056
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 21 2010 02:28 GMT
#72
@ Liquid`Tyler. Where is the #1 poppy guide?
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
November 22 2010 04:17 GMT
#73
Is there a "How to ward" guide somewhere? specifically on common/good locations to place wards? I know I saw it before on the old boards but I thought I bookmarked it but apparently I didn't It'd be great if you can add it to the Strategies spoiler.
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
November 22 2010 08:37 GMT
#74
from the wiki, which says that yiruru said it's from reddit
http://b.imagehost.org/0169/wards.jpg
(>°_°)>
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
November 22 2010 21:16 GMT
#75
On November 22 2010 17:37 byFd wrote:
from the wiki, which says that yiruru said it's from reddit
http://b.imagehost.org/0169/wards.jpg


Thanks! I forgot it was a imaged and I saved it on my HD... Was looking through my bookmarks like an idiot.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
November 24 2010 22:05 GMT
#76
There's another on here. It's not as good as that one, but still might be worth a read for newer players anyways.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
November 26 2010 07:08 GMT
#77
I would love to see a Shaco guide. Would love some insight on him.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
November 26 2010 14:55 GMT
#78
On November 26 2010 16:08 SHr3DD3r wrote:
I would love to see a Shaco guide. Would love some insight on him.

So you missed all of regi's streamed games? Unfortunately he cut his streaming time due to school but he might upload his games to his yt channel. That's pretty much the best shaco tutorial you can get.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 27 2010 21:10 GMT
#79
Updated the OP for links that I've missed in the past two weeks. PM me if you see a well-written guide that I may have missed.

I'll work on a Malphite guide next.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
December 08 2010 02:01 GMT
#80
<3 Malphite and Gragas, I love beefy toons with cc and good initation tools :>

Guides wanted!
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 08 2010 20:14 GMT
#81
On November 26 2010 16:08 SHr3DD3r wrote:
I would love to see a Shaco guide. Would love some insight on him.

I probally could write something on him... but I am probally too bad overall for people not to list it

And I gave out opinions in the shaco thread, go look there for all though
wriggles + bt / trinity is really strong, I play him more tanky than everybody else, but thats just my style.
In the woods, there lurks..
TacToSs
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia330 Posts
December 09 2010 01:58 GMT
#82
I concur with a malphite guide considering he is free this week
Jaedong <3
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
December 10 2010 07:17 GMT
#83
Here's a newbie tip, disable "Fast Terrain" in your video settings. I play LoL on a crappy integrated laptop so I turn everything to the absolute lowest, and I assumed "Fast Terrain" will give me a higher fps. It turns out "Fast Terrain" zooms the camera angle really close to your hero/ground and makes it a lot harder for me to last hit.
Tadrin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States15 Posts
December 10 2010 15:36 GMT
#84
Wondering if there is any good guide out there for Garen yet? I normally can play him 2-1 kd but I would like tips rather then just playing it by how I think it should go.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
December 16 2010 03:07 GMT
#85
Are there any tips for MF?
All I could find was the Caller tiamat build. Totally awesome but any alternatives?
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 08 2011 21:55 GMT
#86
buy a few doran swords, then any kind of BF sword based item -> gg
And all is illuminated.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
January 11 2011 16:24 GMT
#87
MF does great with on-hit weapons. So I recommend trying a black cleaver->IE->phantom dancer build (lots of money, but MF is a great farmer)


Also,

NEO UPDATE THE FIRST POST SRS.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 15 2011 21:46 GMT
#88
Updated first post with some of the new guides since December.
PM me if there's a guide that I missed. I skipped threads like Shaco and Irelia because there was no encompassing post anywhere in those threads.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
January 16 2011 02:25 GMT
#89
Hey Neo, could you link to my Basic Jungling guide? I feel it's useful for people who are just starting out on a jungling role, so it deserves some exposition, and yet it's impolite to bump my own post
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 16 2011 17:18 GMT
#90
On January 16 2011 11:25 Zato-1 wrote:
Hey Neo, could you link to my Basic Jungling guide? I feel it's useful for people who are just starting out on a jungling role, so it deserves some exposition, and yet it's impolite to bump my own post


Good basic guide, added it.

Also created a "Who's Who" section. I've given the guidelines in the sticky. If there is anyone you think I may have missed, PM me their name and I'll look them up.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 17 2011 03:34 GMT
#91
Building off of oberon's idea, I expanded on his Champion Summary idea. Should give new comers an idea of what each champion is capable of.
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 17 2011 15:00 GMT
#92
nice work with the OP
And all is illuminated.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 27 2011 14:44 GMT
#93
wow, you've done a great job with this neo, i should check this more often :o

also, happened to notice your 'who's who' space for urgot is empty. iirc, rambo is supposed to be the 'go-to' person for urgot
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 02 2011 09:36 GMT
#94
Leblanc still isnt even listed in the bigpro list or guide list.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
February 06 2011 17:09 GMT
#95
Anyone got a good recommended Kat guide? She looks fun and I've never played her.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
February 09 2011 19:54 GMT
#96
Evelynn: Executioner mained eve dunno anymore
Fiddlesticks: no idea
Galio: no idea
Gangplank: Feel no Fear (zzz u serious, he stacks gold/5 items on pirate every game bad idea bro)
Kassadin: Dubu maybe
Malphite: Sologamer basically played only malphite to high elo, Bryden7 plays a solid malph even if hes hated by alot of people I don't mind him
Master Yi: Strelo is 2k playing only jungle Yi
Morgana: Locicero is mostly known for being a morg main
Poppy: I don't know many poppy mains from high elo other than that random korean dude named Garibongdong
Rammus: dont know many rammus mains off top of head other than mxp22
Trundle: DONTMASHME #1 TRUNDLE
Tryndamere: hacker v2 plays a solid junglemere
Urgot: BruiseLeet plays solid urgot

Just trying to help fill in empty spots so people can look at their profile and get an idea for runes, items.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 11 2011 03:44 GMT
#97
Why isn't spud on every single one of those.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 15 2011 02:41 GMT
#98
Sometimes pobelter plays poppy too
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
February 24 2011 17:19 GMT
#99
If anyone hasn't posted this yet, check out MobaFire
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 03 2011 17:23 GMT
#100
On February 25 2011 02:19 astroorion wrote:
If anyone hasn't posted this yet, check out MobaFire

Be careful with that; part of the reason the champion guides exist in this subforum is so people won't have to wade through all the horrible guides on Mobafire and Leaguecraft just to find the couple good ones.

Neo update the guide list with my Amumu guide!
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 16 2011 00:50 GMT
#101
add jarman and put me for him. I'ma da bess.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
March 16 2011 00:57 GMT
#102
can you take me off ww that shit's embarassing to be listed for
2035
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
March 18 2011 17:00 GMT
#103
Can someone post a guide for Jarvan ^-^

Thanks !
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
March 20 2011 18:58 GMT
#104
Man this subforum is well hidden, no idea we had this. Anyways I started playing LoL with some friends a week ago, bough ashe and ryze with my first points, so far im leaning more towards ashe and I think im not doing too bad, but naturally having just started playing some things are still a mystery. I was wondering if the guide im using is any good and up to date, or should I find something better, its worked for me so far.

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/ashe-carry-ranked-games-32871

Also any Ashe tips tricks and stuff is welcome, and maybe a recommendation for some other character that plays in a similar ranged sniping fashion.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
w.s
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden850 Posts
March 31 2011 11:49 GMT
#105
singed = loveinabottle
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 01 2011 23:43 GMT
#106
Everything = loveinabottle imoimoimo
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BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
April 30 2011 08:17 GMT
#107
Is loveinabottle really that good?
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 30 2011 18:57 GMT
#108
Yes, he definitely is 100%
:)
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 02 2011 16:26 GMT
#109
OP needs to reflect that Udyr isn't the only champion with out an ultimate. Karma has no ulti just gets Mantra at level 1.
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
May 12 2011 01:19 GMT
#110
On March 21 2011 03:58 besiger wrote:
Man this subforum is well hidden, no idea we had this. Anyways I started playing LoL with some friends a week ago, bough ashe and ryze with my first points, so far im leaning more towards ashe and I think im not doing too bad, but naturally having just started playing some things are still a mystery. I was wondering if the guide im using is any good and up to date, or should I find something better, its worked for me so far.

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/ashe-carry-ranked-games-32871

Also any Ashe tips tricks and stuff is welcome, and maybe a recommendation for some other character that plays in a similar ranged sniping fashion.


This is by far my favorite ashe guide. Very basic and well thoughout mastery build/rune. Ashe is an amazing hero to learn to play, as there is always a need for a ranged carry. Ryze has a lot of potential, but I can't find out the correct way to carry with him. His play style doesn't seem to carry over very well to other heroes.

http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=633
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
teemosummon
Profile Joined May 2011
2 Posts
May 21 2011 18:34 GMT
#111
theres an awesome site called http://chooseyourchamp.com
video guides for all champs :D
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 22 2011 00:11 GMT
#112
On May 22 2011 03:34 teemosummon wrote:
theres an awesome site called http://chooseyourchamp.com
video guides for all champs :D

oh god, that jarman video was fucking terrible.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
chilicheese
Profile Joined January 2009
United States28 Posts
June 07 2011 00:03 GMT
#113
vlad guide is pbad
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 02 2011 00:09 GMT
#114
is there a good Mundo build around?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
July 28 2011 23:04 GMT
#115
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=2939
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
August 16 2011 04:03 GMT
#116
Heres an awesome Ashe build that I use:

Ashe Build
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 17:56:11
August 18 2011 21:13 GMT
#117
Tryndamere is outdated on the champion summary.

I'd put together a Tryndamere champion guide, but if there are some actual good players who could do it they should.

Proposed Summary Edit:
Tryndamere gains rage for attacking enemies, with extra rage gained for crits and kills. Increased rage adds crit chance up to 35%. Rage can be consumed with (Q) to regain health.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 19 2011 06:16 GMT
#118
Tank: Champion with a lot of durability, in the form of HP/Armor/MR)
what is MR? edit: ah, seems to be "magic resist", probably worth including in the definitions
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
August 19 2011 06:23 GMT
#119
Just realized that's the definition of tank. I'd like to object O_O I think tanks are heroes that can force fights when they must be forced. They tend to have survivability but most "tanks" itemize that, and don't actually have innate durability :x
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 00:24:04
August 29 2011 00:22 GMT
#120
Well, there's tank, tanky dps (bruiser), carry, and then support as far as survivability goes.

Tanks almost always have 0-1 offensive items and everything else defensive, can take a beating, can usually initiate (e.g. amumu and rammus can, but cho can't really [rupture is sort of meh as far as forcing a fight goes]), and usually deal comparatively low damage.

The problem is that there's a lot of cross-over between tank and bruiser with champs like Irelia.
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Piggiez
Profile Joined March 2011
393 Posts
September 09 2011 18:08 GMT
#121
Can anyone recommend a jungle Fid build? I just need to know the runes/masteries.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 20 2011 01:50 GMT
#122
Created a Skarner thread. Still maintaining the Akali thread as well.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267324
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slayer008
Profile Joined May 2011
United States15 Posts
September 26 2011 02:57 GMT
#123
for the "professional players good with" list, you're missing like...every single european pro.
SC2 is awesome. Except for PvP.
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
October 01 2011 17:44 GMT
#124
Just put a link to SoloMid and close this entire sub-forum. Done.

User was warned for this post
Got that.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 02 2011 16:16 GMT
#125
On October 02 2011 02:44 Chronald wrote:
Just put a link to SoloMid and close this entire sub-forum. Done.

I think TL offers far more insight than sites such as SoloMid from our General Discussion Thread, Dominion Discussion, Tech Support and more. If you don't like what our members contribute here, then don't post here and leave.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
October 17 2011 03:28 GMT
#126
On October 02 2011 02:44 Chronald wrote:
Just put a link to SoloMid and close this entire sub-forum. Done.

User was warned for this post


Predictable, overused builds can be countered, and are only optimal in some certain senses. Solomid roughly advocates cookie-cutter thinking (unintentionally I'm sure), and has lots of write-ups which focus on individual play to the detriment of the team, while I think the TL approach is more holistic and team-centered.

That's just my take on things, but I could be wrong.

Still quite bad-mannered to come to a living, active, forum just to wag your finger it.
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
October 17 2011 04:47 GMT
#127
Hey guys i got a question and not sure where else to put it.

What do you think about gold per quints i did the math (correct me if im wrong) but in a 20 minute game 3 quints which give you +1 gold every 10 seconds would give you 360 gold which doesnt seem good to me.

Right now im running either an ap page on my supports or a tanky page with ms quints for like taric. Whats the popular conses on gold per quints worth it or not?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 17 2011 08:56 GMT
#128
Well you can compare that to say 3 AP quints.

Amp Tome = 20 AP for 435 gold
15 AP = 326.25 gold

You break even with AP quints before the 20 minute mark, and continue to improve after that. Whether it's worth it or not depends on what you need to win your lane. If it's a farm off with little to no aggression gold quints will be better, otherwise the AP quints might provide enough of an edge to win your lane. Supports usually don't get much gold, and gold quints might help you finish that gp/5 item faster
ô¿ô
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
October 17 2011 10:11 GMT
#129
Ok thanks i appreciate the input. That helped me alot make my decision :D
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Fractal67
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2 Posts
October 22 2011 07:50 GMT
#130
Heya folks. Does anyone know if the Who's Who list being actively updated? I think it's a pretty neat feature and I'd love to see it stay up to date.

If someone is indeed collecting info for that I feel like Voyboy is a possibility for Renekton. I've seen him play Renek a fair amount, and I know he has at least this one guide out there.

http://www.own3d.tv/video/91181/Voyboy_Renekton_Guide_-_Lane_harassment
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
November 05 2011 21:42 GMT
#131
Alright guys, I need help (If anyone actually looks at this thread). A friend and I challenged two of my LoL playing friends to a 2v2 game. Neither of us have EVER played a game of LoL in our lives. I'm a decent SC2 player (High masters) and he's a crappy SC2 player.

What I know is that it's like Dota. Units stream from both sides down lanes. You control one hero and go fight with it. You can buy items, equipment, and stuff.

How do we win?
ShoShaVirus
Profile Joined October 2011
United States11 Posts
November 16 2011 03:51 GMT
#132
Bloodboiler can be found here on TL in the non-featured section. He has some great insight on the new patch.
Look at the brightside kid...You get to keep all the money.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
November 18 2011 18:22 GMT
#133
On November 06 2011 06:42 neobowman wrote:
Alright guys, I need help (If anyone actually looks at this thread). A friend and I challenged two of my LoL playing friends to a 2v2 game. Neither of us have EVER played a game of LoL in our lives. I'm a decent SC2 player (High masters) and he's a crappy SC2 player.

What I know is that it's like Dota. Units stream from both sides down lanes. You control one hero and go fight with it. You can buy items, equipment, and stuff.

How do we win?


You aren't going to win. Just the fact that your LoL buddies have been playing LoL and (presumably) have access to Runes, and Masteries gives them a huge advantage. Not too mention the fact that LoL isn't a mechanically taxing game so your "high masters" SC2 skills won't help you a whole lot. Its more about strategy than anything else and it just takes time and experience to get good at.
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
November 18 2011 21:31 GMT
#134
On November 19 2011 03:22 Terranasaur wrote:
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On November 06 2011 06:42 neobowman wrote:
Alright guys, I need help (If anyone actually looks at this thread). A friend and I challenged two of my LoL playing friends to a 2v2 game. Neither of us have EVER played a game of LoL in our lives. I'm a decent SC2 player (High masters) and he's a crappy SC2 player.

What I know is that it's like Dota. Units stream from both sides down lanes. You control one hero and go fight with it. You can buy items, equipment, and stuff.

How do we win?


You aren't going to win. Just the fact that your LoL buddies have been playing LoL and (presumably) have access to Runes, and Masteries gives them a huge advantage. Not too mention the fact that LoL isn't a mechanically taxing game so your "high masters" SC2 skills won't help you a whole lot. Its more about strategy than anything else and it just takes time and experience to get good at.


We won

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By default since they couldn't play on that day but the winning is the part that counts.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 18:11:12
November 24 2011 18:10 GMT
#135
This thread is helpful. Thank you

Edit: It was difficult to know what carry AD AP CC etc. mean without seeing them actually defined
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GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
November 24 2011 18:55 GMT
#136
On November 25 2011 03:10 Chill wrote:
This thread is helpful. Thank you

Edit: It was difficult to know what carry AD AP CC etc. mean without seeing them actually defined


A glossary of terms could be useful. I'll start.


Ability Range: The distance a skill can be used at, measured in units of game distance. Skill range is measured from the center of the character, so is usually ~100 range shorter than the listed range.

Attack Range: The distance the character can attack from, measured in units of game distance. Most melee characters have an attack range of either 125 or 150, measured from the edge of the character's hitbox.

AD: Attack Damage, increases the damage of auto attacks as well as some skills, is reduced by armour.

AP: Ability Power, increases most skill damage by a specific ratio, is reduced by magic resists

Armour: Reduces physical attacks against your character, such as: the dragon, minions, jungle creeps, turrets, and other champions auto attacks. Some skills deal physical damage, and are reduced by armour.

Armour Penetration: Reduces a flat amount of the enemy's armour, this is calculated before % penetration.

% Armour Penetration: Reduces a % of your opponents armour, this is calculated after flat penetration, reducing the effectiveness of stacking the 2 stats together.

Attack Speed: A % increase on your base attack speed. Attack speed stacks additively, and is simply multiplied by your base attack speed. The value shown is your number of attacks per second, so the higher the number the better. There is an attack speed cap of 2.5.

Critical Damage: % increase in critical hit damage. On a critical hit, increases the multiplier. With the 10% critical damage mastery, the multiplier for a critical hit is now x2.1 instead of x2. Critical damage stacks additively.

Critical Hit Chance: % chance to inflict a critical hit. Critical hits deal x2 damage, and can be increased to deal more through critical damage items, runes, and masteries. Critical hit chance stacks additively.

Dodge: % chance to avoid an enemy attack. This only works against auto attacks, most skills that modify the attack (Pick a Card, Ruthless Predator, Devastating Blow) cannot be dodged. Dodge stacks multiplicatively.

Flat damage reduction: Reduces damage by a flat amount, this is calculated after armour. Flat damage reduction and armour have a multiplicative effect on the effectiveness of each other.

Magic Penetration: Reduces magic resists by a flat amount, this is calculated before % penetration.

% Magic Penetration: Reduces magic resists by a %, this is calculated after flat penetration. Stacking both % and flat penetration is less than optimal.

Magic Resists: Reduces most ability damage against your character. Some abilities do physical damage, and are unaffected.

Movement Speed: Movement speed is the rate at which your character moves. Movement speed is measured in units of game distance per second. Flat movement speed boosts are added before multiplicative boosts. Movement speeds between 415 and 490 are multiplied by .8, and over 490 by .5, to provide a soft cap on maximum movement speed.

Tenacity: Reduces the duration of disabling effects, such as stun, slow, root, and silence. Knock ups and knock backs are unaffected. Tenacity items do not stack with each other, but tenacity items and skills stack multiplicatively.



All I am going to do for now. If someone else wants to continue, go for it.


Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
November 24 2011 21:13 GMT
#137
Here's a noob question: Why are the Mastery breakdowns always 9 and 21? Why not 30/0/0? Why not 10/10/10? I guess it's to get to the best tiers unlocked, but there must be SOME cases where 9/0/21 or 21/0/9, etc. isn't the best.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 24 2011 21:29 GMT
#138
The biggest reason is that often champs don't really need more than 21 in a tree. You can see this most clearly in the new offensive tree I think, where there is a pretty clear split between the the AD masteries and the AP masteries. Putting 21 in the tree gives you everything you need. Another reason is that all the trees have a certain good mastery that requires at least 9 points. Splitting your masteries with 21 in one and 9 in another allows you to take the final mastery of a tree and one of the useful 3rd tier masteries.

There are many cases where putting more than 21 into a tree or splitting your masteries over three trees work, but this is the main reason why the 21/9 splits are so common.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
November 28 2011 09:00 GMT
#139
On November 25 2011 06:13 Chill wrote:
Here's a noob question: Why are the Mastery breakdowns always 9 and 21? Why not 30/0/0? Why not 10/10/10? I guess it's to get to the best tiers unlocked, but there must be SOME cases where 9/0/21 or 21/0/9, etc. isn't the best.


Glad to see you moving over to this forum Chill.

Like the poster above me mentioned, most character builds benefit the most from the "ultimate" mastery in one tree and a 3rd tier mastery in another. Thus requiring the 21/9 splits. However, since the introduction of season 2 the Offensive tree is pretty damn powerful so on some characters going straight 30/0/0 is becoming viable (Jax for instance. Someone who benefits from AD and AP and doesn't need a ton of Defense or utility tree stuff). The reason you see 21 in one tree is because you would severely be gimping yourself by investing only 18, 19, or 20 points in the tree and not taking the ultimate. Basically that point is most valuable at the bottom. Same thing with the 9 someplace else. You wouldn't want 7 in defense because that would limit you to only the tier 1 and 2 choices. Not ideal.

Its funny, starting out brand new you might look at most guides and think "wow. 21/0/9. I wish they would go into more detail about which specific masteries to dump points," but after you play for a while it just becomes common sense as to which masteries to choose.
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