• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:28
CEST 22:28
KST 05:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 239ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 What is your PC setup in 2026 for SCBW/SC2 ? Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6039 users

[Champion] Sivir

Forum Index > LoL Strategy
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
November 05 2010 15:16 GMT
#1
Masteries

0/16/14 ( Meditation gives you more flexibility to spam BB early game )
-SoS, Nimbleness, HP, Improved Cleanse, Improved Flash
0/21/9 ( Lets you get Tanky late game, but mana starved before Lvl 9 )
-Same as above, but Tenacity for Meditation and Improved Buffs
21/0/9 ( Pure DPS, if you have a team that can get stuff off you )
-Standard DPS Masteries

Runes

APen Marks
Flat HP / APen Quints
Mp5 Seals
MR Glyphs

Summoner Spells:

Take Cleanse. Just do it. No exceptions. Unless you're trolling.

The second spell is more flexible. I personally run Flash nowdays, but I've had success with anything and everything else.

Teleport / Ghost are good for pushing.
Heal gives free EHP in team fights.
Exhaust makes it harder for Melee DPS to shit on you.

Skills:

QEQW R>Q>W>E, unless you need E at Level 1 against certain champions.

Some Notes:
-Q Range is actually slightly longer than what the circle represents
-On hit effects don't apply on Ricochet, but APen (Flat and %) works

Itams:

Open Doran's Shield on hard lanes that can harass you well, Doran's Sword otherwise. Mercs or Zerks for Boots.

In General, you want as many BloodThirsters as you can stack, coupled with a LW to maximize Ricochet and BB damage. Get a Tank Item mid-game (Mog>Banshee>GA at the moment). IE/BR are also good DPS options. PD can replace Boots if you have the money in late game.

Playstyle:

Farm the first 20 minutes, no exceptions. Dragon is ok, but that's about it really. (Unless your team get a red somehow, then ganks with R is okish) Also feel free to farm neutrals if your jungle is ganking or sucking.

Click R in teamfights and attack move, honestly that's all you need to do. Q/E as needed.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 05 2010 15:21 GMT
#2
Also BB the Wraiths when your jungle's trying to kill them.

QQ
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 15:23:59
November 05 2010 15:23 GMT
#3
what are benchmark CS numbers at 10, 15, 20 minutes?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 05 2010 15:28 GMT
#4
300, 700, 1300
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 05 2010 15:32 GMT
#5
Or more realistically 90, 160, 250
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 05 2010 15:34 GMT
#6
No, Mogwai's right.

...

>_>
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 05 2010 15:35 GMT
#7
What are the thoughts on maxing Ricochet before Boomerang Blade now that it scales with attack damage?
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
November 05 2010 16:05 GMT
#8
I thought 100 by 15 was considered pretty good T_T
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 05 2010 16:07 GMT
#9
On November 06 2010 01:05 azndsh wrote:
I thought 100 by 15 was considered pretty good T_T

With Sivir it's pretty bad though, especially if you get Teleport(lot of fun with Sivir)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 05 2010 16:08 GMT
#10
On November 06 2010 01:07 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 01:05 azndsh wrote:
I thought 100 by 15 was considered pretty good T_T

With Sivir it's pretty bad though, especially if you get Teleport(lot of fun with Sivir)


That's true, Sivir usually has 100 cs by the time minions spawn ^^
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
November 05 2010 16:46 GMT
#11
Sivir ends up with 500+. Team ends up with 100+ at best. Thanks TP sivir.
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
November 06 2010 00:40 GMT
#12
On November 06 2010 00:21 Southlight wrote:
Also BB the Wraiths when your jungle's trying to kill them.

QQ


QQQQQ i did it on ShitCombo and took his exp, and he blamed himself for dying at wolves 2funny



Shikyo's numbers are about right. I hit 160~ last game in 20 mins jungling Sivir.

@STS BB got a buff at every level, so I'm not sure what you're asking~

Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
November 06 2010 16:44 GMT
#13
I might be mistaken but the tooltip says that BB does magic damage even though it's affected by AD. Armor pen or LW won't help much for BB i think.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 06 2010 17:27 GMT
#14
On November 07 2010 01:44 Haemonculus wrote:
I might be mistaken but the tooltip says that BB does magic damage even though it's affected by AD. Armor pen or LW won't help much for BB i think.


correct, but it helps for ricochet
Brees on in
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
November 06 2010 17:45 GMT
#15
Ricochet - getting you kills somewhere somehow
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
November 07 2010 19:23 GMT
#16
I have to argue with the skill order. I'd go WQQE or EQQW because I never, ever spam rank 1 BB because, with its totally low base damage, it does shit damage/mana at level 1. Since I'm not gonna be casting it at all until level 3, no point in getting it at level 1. Unless I am against a good SS champ, I get ricochet at level 1.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 07 2010 19:39 GMT
#17
On November 08 2010 04:23 Pigsquirrel wrote:
I have to argue with the skill order. I'd go WQQE or EQQW because I never, ever spam rank 1 BB because, with its totally low base damage, it does shit damage/mana at level 1. Since I'm not gonna be casting it at all until level 3, no point in getting it at level 1. Unless I am against a good SS champ, I get ricochet at level 1.


in terms of a lvl 1 teamfight, bb is the most obvious option. ricochet isnt going to do shit, spellshield isnt going to do shit, meanwhile bb will enhance your lvl 1 dps the most. Ofc, dont level it at spawn, cus if a lvl 1 teamfight doesnt happen and you go to lane and realize you need shield, you're kinda in trouble, buuut, i'd say any situation where you're fighting against other champs @ lvl 1, you want bb
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
November 07 2010 22:43 GMT
#18
I found attack -> move a bit -> attack -> move a bit to be really effective way to use her passive.
ô¿ô
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
November 08 2010 09:46 GMT
#19
I already listed EQQW. W first does nothing, either in lane or Lvl 1 fights. Lvl 1 BB is your only use in a Lvl 1 fight, and also lets you get some creeps you might have missed. You aren't supposed to spam BB anyways, unless you go something stupid like Manamune.

@R04R, that's true but don't overdo it since you will more than likely lost DPS from doing that. I usually only animation cancel that way when I know I'll come out ahead in a fight early on, so I can get a couple more hits in.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 11:19:56
November 08 2010 11:17 GMT
#20
What are cooldowns like on sivir? Is it worth having faster BB's or is her attack + ricochet more than enough?
Quicker spell shield is nice too : [ ]

Also when should I be pushing with Sivir? Say it's solo or 1v2 top lane, do I want to keep the lane even or constantly be pushing and getting in hits on the tower?
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 582
BRAT_OK 114
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2565
Hm[arnc] 19
Purpose 18
Dota 2
canceldota105
Counter-Strike
minikerr60
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu492
Other Games
Grubby3814
Liquid`RaSZi1526
tarik_tv1245
XaKoH 925
Beastyqt715
byalli322
ArmadaUGS153
Chillindude26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick5933
BasetradeTV253
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21299
Other Games
• imaqtpie1696
• Shiphtur340
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 32m
GSL
14h 32m
Monday Night Weeklies
19h 32m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 14h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.