EPTFirefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing…
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
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Kaul-S04
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I don't know who Gao Mengwei is and why ESIC made this mistake. | ||
Waxangel
United States33389 Posts
On July 09 2025 02:47 Kaul-S04 wrote: However it should be Cao "Jim" Jinhui.liquipedia.net I don't know who Gao Mengwei is and why ESIC made this mistake. lol that's a really weird clerical error i wonder if that was their translator or something like that (or Jim was going by a fake government name for a decade) | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On July 09 2025 04:14 Waxangel wrote: lol that's a really weird clerical error i wonder if that was their translator or something like that (or Jim was going by a fake government name for a decade) Also not following the Chinese naming convention of family name first so it should've been Mr. Xue and Mr. Gao. | ||
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davyhuss
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On July 09 2025 04:14 Waxangel wrote: lol that's a really weird clerical error i wonder if that was their translator or something like that (or Jim was going by a fake government name for a decade) Pretty sure it's just a stupid error. Both Jim's and Firefly's legal names are on the transaction records Jim posted on scboy.cc. | ||
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Gluon
Netherlands392 Posts
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tigera6
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Antithesis
Germany1186 Posts
On July 09 2025 23:48 tigera6 wrote: I guess this ban would extend to all other potential e-sport that is run by ESL, what about games like AoE? Whether officially related to ESIC or not, I cannot imagine any professional tournament organizer permitting participation of a player convicted of matchfixing on multiple counts. | ||
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Creager
Germany1894 Posts
On July 09 2025 23:27 Gluon wrote: I'm confused by this, Jim was both the person who benefited from placing bets and also the person who brought this scheme to light? That seems rather folly Why? I don't think it's completely unreasonable to assume one of the following scenarios: 1. Jim felt guilty, grew a conscience and wanted a clean slate, whatever that entails (seems very unlikely to me, but who knows) 2. Jim and Firefly had some kind of falling-out, which resulted in Jim receiving the short end of the stick and therefore acted in retaliation 3. Some third non-disclosed party has additional dirt on Jim and pressured him into confessing, in this case we might not have the full picture, yet | ||
Mizenhauer
United States1875 Posts
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pzlama333
United States277 Posts
On July 09 2025 23:27 Gluon wrote: I'm confused by this, Jim was both the person who benefited from placing bets and also the person who brought this scheme to light? That seems rather folly Jim is a gambler and lost all his money in gambling and have debt to be paid. He feels Firefly should owe him 10k CNY in one of their previous cooperation of match-fixing, but Firefly refused to give him the money. It is his last effort to try to get some money, or he would make Firedly also doomed before Jim is doomed himself. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33389 Posts
On July 10 2025 01:30 Creager wrote: Why? I don't think it's completely unreasonable to assume one of the following scenarios: 1. Jim felt guilty, grew a conscience and wanted a clean slate, whatever that entails (seems very unlikely to me, but who knows) 2. Jim and Firefly had some kind of falling-out, which resulted in Jim receiving the short end of the stick and therefore acted in retaliation 3. Some third non-disclosed party has additional dirt on Jim and pressured him into confessing, in this case we might not have the full picture, yet it's 100% explicit in Jim's original thread that Firefly didn't pay Jim money he was owed, and Jim was pissed off because of that Make sure to pay your debts kids, or someone might reveal your deepest darkest crimes  | ||
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Creager
Germany1894 Posts
On July 10 2025 07:45 Waxangel wrote: it's 100% explicit in Jim's original thread that Firefly didn't pay Jim money he was owed, and Jim was pissed off because of that Ah, thanks for clarifying! | ||
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deepseer
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Jim is still referred to as Jinhui "Jim" Cao, and Mr. Jinhui, rather than Cao "Jim" Jinhui and Mr. Cao. Are naming conventions in East Asia really that incomprehensible to Westerners? Anyway, Liquipedia got these names right. They didn't even bother to check the site. Sigh. | ||
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States654 Posts
On July 10 2025 15:30 deepseer wrote: They've fixed Jim's name, but not completely. Jim is still referred to as Jinhui "Jim" Cao, and Mr. Jinhui, rather than Cao "Jim" Jinhui and Mr. Cao. Are naming conventions in East Asia really that incomprehensible to Westerners? Anyway, Liquipedia got these names right. They didn't even bother to check the site. Sigh. Yes, in Chinese last name goes first before first name. Backward from western convention. Edit: I see....... they are just not serious xD | ||
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deepseer
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On July 11 2025 06:01 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote: Yes, in Chinese last name goes first before first name. Backward from western convention. Edit: I see....... they are just not serious xD Most Chinese and Koreans (except those in the overseas community) prefer to put their family names before given names, even in an English context. Unless in academic conferences or journals, because each conference or journal has its own format for names. To avoid ambiguity, for Asian people it's better to use "family name" and "given name" instead of "last name" and "first name". | ||
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Schuelkea
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duckTemplar
United States155 Posts
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Slydie
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On August 01 2025 00:13 duckTemplar wrote: Remind me of a zerg player, Life. I think the handle was. Who got a sword from GSL studio. I think this is the saddest of all SC2 stories, much worse than this one. It happened to the biggest Star at the worst possible time, right as the scene started to struggle to find sponsors. Afaik, it has even been a taboo to talk about it here, but it has been a while, so maybe it ok now? | ||
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gramwilliam
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