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[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway

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[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway

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August 17th, 2025 15:42 GMT
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Milestone season for the ASL as we hit ASL 20. Following up one of the best seasons in ASL history will be hard but with the incoming new, familiar and even returning faces, I'd say we're still in good hands.

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Group A Preview

Homecoming


Almost nothing like the sight of seeing something you were missing. I say almost because it does get topped by the sight of seeing someone you missed in the thing you were missing.

(Z)Larva is back in the ASL and he’s going up against (T)Sharp, (P)Stork and (T)Ample.

(T)Sharp is back on the full grind for ASL after being seeded into the Ro16 in ASL19 and then getting 0-2’d with no sets won in either series. Despite that I would say that he’s the favorite in the group, he’s been fantastic with TvZ and TvP over the last month online being very active in the major proleague scene. At least for this stage of the tournament that should be enough.

This is (Z)Larva’s first ASL since winning ASL11, giving up his ASL12 seed citing injury and then overall dropping out of the competitive side entirely over the course of the next 4 years only recently resurfacing as a competitive player online and taking the chance to qualify for ASL20. Even though his qualifier run mostly composed of Terrans including (T)Mihu in his bracket finals, his online ZvT is an abysmal 28-84(25%) against his actual peers like Sharp and Ample and a 33-38 in ZvP(46.5%). Needless to say, while it is exciting to see him back, he’s going to have to really show up if he’s here to stay.

(T)Ample has been hovering around the J-League and K-League tier in terms of online presence and sponmatches but so have the rest of the group, he doesn’t particularly stand out in any matchup but TvP but has been avoiding TvZ over the last month. A solid candidate to take 2nd spot in the group on paper, but in reality we need to take into consideration the last member of the group.

(P)Stork is always a wildcard, he has the best preparation for group stages by far, last season his group was particularly tough having to deal with (Z)Queen and (Z)Jaedong when his PvZ wasn’t particularly strong at the time, but in this group maybe he has a better shot against Larva and Ample while most likely falling to Sharp if they face each other in the winner’s.

(T)Sharp and (T)Ample Advance To The Ro16!
Group B Preview

I Want My Baby Back


I don't normally write previews, and we all know that it's difficult to make predictions, especially about the future. So let me say that there is a good amount of variance here, and I don't have a great deal of confidence in any of the individual game guess forecasts. As far as this group goes overall, I feel that there are two fairly likely outcomes and then a number of close calls.

I'm reasonably confident that 1) (T)Speed is gonna make it to the Ro16, and 2) (T)TY isn't gonna cut it. I'm sort of on the fence about (P)Bisu. He is overall more solid than (T)JyJ or (T)TY, but he can be vulnerable to early game shenanigans, and I can't remember the last time I've seen him win a long late-game PvT either. If his two weaker opponents don't 2-fact then they pretty much deserve to lose.

Let's have a little look at the players in seed order. As a recent-ish champion (T)JyJ secured the group's top seed, placing just ahead of Bisu. (Unlucky for Bisu, as that forces him to play Speed, who he might have otherwise avoided. The seeding could have put all four Protoss in the same group!) The thing with JyJ is that he's basically done nothing impressive after winning (Wiki)ASL15. As far as Terran 1-hit wonders are concerned he seems to have fallen off the Champion's Cliff harder than anyone I can remember. TvP was never his thing, and it hasn't markedly improved. As far as I could gather the stats, he's 5-9 over the last three months, including 5-7 in MPL. Given that Bisu also has a negative record this might turn out not to be a lethal problem. If you remember back to ASL15, JyJ dominated in TvT. He pulled out some incredible early-game vulture play and proceeded to steam-roller Mind in one of the most one-sided ASL finals ever. But lately his TvT has been decidedly more ordinary, hovering around 50%. Another thing telling against JyJ is that he's the lowest player on elo ranking, by some margin, at 22, when the others are all hovering closer to rank 10.

(P)Bisu is, without a question, the greatest Protoss of all time (maybe one day I'll write that ranking...), but he's rather a long way from his golden days now. Let's face it, none of us are getting any younger. That said, he's the only elo top 10 player in this group, at rank 9, and his PvT is still alright. Granted, it's a losing record in MPL at 9-12 over the last three months, but remember that this includes games against (T)Flash, (T)Light and (T)Rush. He's also only once missed the Ro16 cut in ASL, in season 10. More worrying is that his ASL19 performance was rather shaky, including that game where he forgot to research storm. He also had to qualify on the second day after losing a tight series to (P)ParalyzE, who isn't exactly a powerhouse. Of course PvP can be quite a gamble, so isn't a good indicator for how this group will go. On the positive side, he's been fairly active and seems to be doing OK in MPL. Having to face Speed in the first game is bad for him though, as he's probably favoured against the other day. If he loses, as I expect, then he's only one poor engagement from elimination.

Unlike JyJ (who imploded to form a blackhole) and Bisu (who is slowly fading), (T)Speed's star seems to be rising. We all know he's good at TvP, as his ASL games against (P)Snow have shown and he's got a solid 14-14 record over the last 3 months. If Speed can get into the mid-game he's more than even to beat Bisu. Although his multi-tasking advantage is probably not as large in this match-up as it as against, say, Snow or Best. But the real reason Speed is fairly likely to make into the Ro16 again is that his TvT is really good right now. TvT is probably the lowest variance match so even a modest edge usually translates into a big advantage. Frankly, unless the other Terrans can pull out some build order miracle, I don't see them beating Speed. The main uncertainty is around not having seen Speed play as much. He's played practically no MPL or K-League. That could mean he's been grinding the ladder hard of course, which might be a point in his favour.

(T)Ty is a bit of an unknown quantity at this point in his career. He is ranked at 12 on eloboard, which is good. Both his TvP and TvT stats look middling, which should give him a shot, but that's not the whole story. He's played barely any MPL, and having a 15-8 TvP record in K-League probably oversells his current skill level. The big problem Ty has is that he looks weaker in TvT than the other Terrans, including a losing record in K-league. If he wants to make it to the next round, he'll need to raise his level. Alternatively, he can try to stay solid and hope for some comical blunders from JyJ or Bisu, which, frankly, isn't that implausible.

Another unknown quantity are the new maps. Dominator and the maps for the final game are all reasonably balanced, but there could be some surprises in the middle of the standard sandwich.

Match 1 - (T)JyJ <(Wiki)Dominator SE> (T)TY
JyJ is not at his best currently, but at least he's previously shown that his TvT can be great, while (T)TY hasn't shown us anything remarkable.

Match 2 - (P)Bisu <(Wiki)Dominator SE> (T)Speed
Speed should play conservative and grind out a win over a solid, but somewhat unimaginative Bisu.

Winners - (T)JyJ < TBD > (T)Speed
Speed is simply better than JyJ at TvT right now, and this game will show us why.

Losers - (P)Bisu < TBD > (T)TY
If Bisu plays solid he will take this as he's still (just) a class above.

Final - (T)JyJ < TBD > (P)Bisu
Given JyJ's frailty in this match-up, Bisu should manage to squeak over the line.

(T)Speed and (P)Bisu Advance To The Ro16!

Group C Preview

Return of the Prince of Zerg


As the title suggests, the big name of this group is going to be (Z)Soma. He’s joined by (P)Mini, (T)sSak, and (Z)Saber in this fairly straight forward Group C.

(P)Mini hasn’t had the best ASL results as of late, and his daily proleague results also haven’t improved, seeing the chaotic Protoss slide all the way back down to 13th on ELOboard. Mini will hope that his luck changes for this ASL20, as his last two campaigns have ended swiftly in the Ro16. In a Bo1 format, his chaotic playstyle could potentially work as a double edged sword, but luckily for him, he’s in a fairly comfortable group, with Saber as his first opponent. Soma is the player he’s going to need to keep an eye on, but he also has some insurance if he loses to Soma with sSak being a Terran that he will be favored against. He also won an impressive late game ZvP against Jaedong in proleague recently, so he may have some confidence heading into ASL.

While the big prize of (T)Flash is not back to participate in the ASL, (Z)Soma’s long anticipated return to the pro scene after finishing his military duty has finally manifested itself. He cruised his way through his qualifier group (and did not stumble over the infamous BCM who has shocked many Zergs). Soma’s immediate return to proleague has already seen him shake off the rust quickly, especially playing several games against FlaSh, and he’s jumped all the way back into the top 10 on the ELOboard. His mechanics look as crisp as ever, and mainly his goal now is to reintegrate himself back into the meta to learn what he’s missed during his service. While he returns as the 2nd seed in this group, I fully expect him to be the favorite to emerge, especially since he’s able to dodge a ZvZ in the first round, with sSak being his first opponent.

(T)sSak has seen his last 3 ASL campaigns end in the Ro24, and honestly I don’t anticipate this one ending any differently. While he’s been a consistent qualifier, he’s simply unable to get over the hump of beating any mid-tier players to push himself into the Ro16. And unfortunately for him, he’s locked into a group with two players with eyes set on deep runs into the ASL. It’s possible he could try to mix things up and catch one of two powerhouses off guard, especially Mini, but I don’t envision him being able to obtain such an advantage to close out the game.

(Z)Saber was your ACS qualifier this time around for the ASL, running a mini-ZvZ gauntlet of (Z)soO and Hm to qualify. However, while his ZvZ may have passed a test, there’s no telling how he’s going to do with his nerves in his first ASL match against Mini of all people. Plus, even if he does get Soma in a ZvZ, Soma’s ZvZ record is no slouch either, so he can’t rely on that to get him into the next round. As with most fresh faces to the ASL, sadly, Saber’s story is going to end like most other rookies, a short tournament that ends in the Ro24.

(Z)Soma and (P)Mini Advance To The Ro16!


Writers: Simplistik, FlashFTW, BLinD-RawR
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
August 17 2025 15:46 GMT
#2
Well here we are, season 20.

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Netherlands978 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-17 16:40:12
August 17 2025 16:31 GMT
#3
ASL19 wasnt just one of the best seasons of starcraft competition, I think it was the best season ever. ASL20 Groups seem semi-easy to predict but, much like qualifiers, i think we will see more upsets than expectes.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6179 Posts
August 17 2025 19:18 GMT
#4
Prediction:
Sharp ample
Speed Bisu
Mini Soma
Zero Effort
Rush Jaedong
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1079 Posts
August 17 2025 19:28 GMT
#5
I don't know what you mean by "if ty and jyj don't double factory Bisu, they pretty much deserve to lose".

If there is one protoss (besides SnOw) that is good to hold a rush with stellar micro and experience, its Bisu.
But
The longer the TvsP goes, the higher % Bisu will "a click" his whole army into a tanks line or suicide a shuttle for no reason.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1079 Posts
August 17 2025 19:35 GMT
#6
I made a promise to myself 5 or 6 seasons ago that I will never bet for sSak again. But, since i break pretty much every promises i make to myself, i will go ahead and say that he will make through, along with, obviously, soma.
pseudosignal
Profile Joined May 2025
41 Posts
August 18 2025 00:57 GMT
#7
My predictions for those groups as well. Man of culture here.

I would point out that even though TvZ is Ample's weakest, he had to beat ALL zergs on day 2 including a victory over Action. I think he could do well this season.

Also feel like Paralyze is moving on for some reason even though I put him in F tier as a first time ASL player.
pseudosignal
Profile Joined May 2025
41 Posts
August 18 2025 00:58 GMT
#8
On August 18 2025 04:28 TornadoSteve wrote:
I don't know what you mean by "if ty and jyj don't double factory Bisu, they pretty much deserve to lose".

If there is one protoss (besides SnOw) that is good to hold a rush with stellar micro and experience, its Bisu.
But
The longer the TvsP goes, the higher % Bisu will "a click" his whole army into a tanks line or suicide a shuttle for no reason.


Agreed. Bisu's early game is worthy of his prestige but he always falls apart in the midgame.
zutt0
Profile Joined August 2025
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Last Edited: 2025-08-18 01:25:37
August 18 2025 01:14 GMT
#9
I wouldn't be super surprised if Ample made it, but I have a hard time understanding how he could be a favorite to make it out of this group. I think people tend to evaluate players based on how they're playing relative to their sense of how good they ought to be, and that's biasing how some people are evaluating Group A in particular.

Ample is definitely playing better than our usual standard for him and taking down Action was a big win. But we're still talking about a guy who has failed to qualify for 3 season in a row, went down 0-2 to YSC on Day 1, and who sometimes struggles with players that would pose no threat at all to the regulars. If you took Ample's record and told people, "This is Speed," we'd say that Speed is going to drown in Ro24 this season because he's performing way below our expectations. But since it's Ample, we have high hopes.

Stork, on the other hand, makes it in basically every season and is going about even with players like Rush, Royal, Barracks, and sSak over the last 9 months. I think we're low on him because there was a period where we thought he looked like a Ro8 player, and it turns out he's definitely not. But he's still solidly the 6th best Protoss and somebody who I would say is definitely favored over Ample.

Similar story with Larva. We hold him to the standard of someone who can come back and be an instant Ro4 threat, like Rain, Effort, and Soma. He's way short of that. He is by far the weakest 2nd seed. But I think it'd be fair to say he's on a level with somebody like Killer or maybe even Sacsri, and I think we'd say that either of them would have a legitimate chance of getting out of this group.

On top of all of that, the real killer for Ample, in my view, is that he is very unlikely to take the first game against Sharp. That means he'll have to make it through both Stork and Larva (or, worse, one of them and then Sharp again). Could Ample beat either Stork or Larva? Yeah, totally. Do I expect him to beat both of them in a row? Not really.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
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Last Edited: 2025-08-18 06:38:39
August 18 2025 06:37 GMT
#10
On August 18 2025 04:28 TornadoSteve wrote:
I don't know what you mean by "if ty and jyj don't double factory Bisu, they pretty much deserve to lose".

If there is one protoss (besides SnOw) that is good to hold a rush with stellar micro and experience, its Bisu.
But
The longer the TvsP goes, the higher % Bisu will "a click" his whole army into a tanks line or suicide a shuttle for no reason.

Remember that BW invitational at EWC a few years ago? That's the sort of thing I have in mind. Fantasy wasn't even properly playing at the time. It's quite a while ago, but Bisu has a history of dropping games to 2-fact, going quite a long way back. Any Terran who feels like a big underdog should probably try that, if the build orders allow.

This isn't a general comment on his early game. Like, I wouldn't try a bunker rush or BBS.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5156 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-18 07:11:22
August 18 2025 07:08 GMT
#11
Nice write up, guys and great first preview, Simplistik.
Too bad this starts off with a TvT, ASL should really avoid doing that since the groups aren't random anyway.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44202 Posts
August 18 2025 12:23 GMT
#12
Group A honestly I can only really see Sharp making it out. Although hopefully Stork also does. He makes for a good r16 groups

Group B is probably gonna be Bisu and Speed. Assuming Bisu doesnt like throw hard like last season. Funny how speed is the strongest player in that group. Tho i really want TY to make it honestly.

Kinda agree with Group C. So long Soma is actually in shape now. Mini is expected to at least make it to R16
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I do not follow BW closely anymore. I just came by to say that Roaring Currents is an absolute gorgeous map. Whoever did this: well done.

Also, I do not think that Pole Star would be a playable map in Germany.
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