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Lemme tell you a thing on the Euro adoption here

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JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria409 Posts
August 29 2025 13:23 GMT
#1
The European Union, bless their bureaucratic little hearts, pushed the euro on Bulgaria. And some of the Bulgarians, well, we are tentatively saying "no." Or, more accurately, we make a lot of noise about "national sovereignty" and "the lev, our beloved currency." And the EU officials nod politely, because they're being told that this is just a case of simple, good old-fashioned inflation anxiety. But that's like blaming a plane crash on the tray tables being wobbly. It's not the real reason. The real reason, I'll tell you what it is cause I am a part of it, is the big, beautiful, cash-money system that operates just beneath the surface of the official economy. The one we like to call "grey" because "illegal" sounds so, you know… criminal.

On paper, we are a nation of economic underdogs. The statistics tell you, "Bulgaria's a poor country, its people are struggling." But come, take a look around. Take a look at the real estate market. Everybody here owns a home or two and you can buy a duplex in Sofia for about €160,000, which we pay for with a suitcase full of cash. That's right, a suitcase full of cash. Where do we get it from? From the official economy? Please. A recent study shows that the informal economy here is about 34.6% of the entire GDP. That's a third of the country's economic activity happening off the books, in the shadows, where the tax man can't get to it. In reality, I think it's much higher than a third, two thirds hits closer to truth. You don't see this in places like Germany, where a guy who sells a single bratwurst without a receipt is considered a national security threat. In Bulgaria, it’s just how things get done. You get paid for a job, you get your official, pathetic-looking paycheck, and then you get a nice, fat bonus "under the table." That's not a secret; that’s our business model.

And this grey economy, it's not some little side hustle, oh no. It's the actual engine. It's what allows people to live because we're Bulgarians, we can never (officially) thrive. It's how we get our nice cars and our fancy apartments. The official economy is a formality, a puppet show for the rest of Europe. The real game, the real wealth, is in the shadows. And the currency of the realm here is cash. Big, untraceable piles of cash. The property market, for example, isn't a reflection of formal economic growth or foreigners inflating prices, like in Barcelona and Greece; it's a giant washing machine. You take your "under the table" money, you buy a house, and poof! It's clean. It's now a legitimate asset. You've officially converted your "don't-ask-don't-tell" income into a socially acceptable investment.

So then comes the euro. The single currency. The great harmonizer. The great light-shiner-on-everything. And with it come all the EU rules. Anti-money laundering, transaction tracing, everything becoming official. It's a direct, frontal assault on our entire unofficial way of life. We don't fear inflation from the euro; we fear exposure. We fear that all their unofficial financial shenanigans will suddenly be visible to the world. We're not worried about the cost of bread going up; we're worried about our freedom going down. Their economic freedom, that is. The rest of the freedoms we don't really give a crap about. Here, come, spill acid on a journalist's face, it's fine, no one bats an eye. Oh, what's that? You got a girlfriend that needs to be beaten? We got you covered, bring her over, smash her face, it's alright. Yeah, you just gotta ship some dough to a prosecutor so that he doesn't press charges against you but we'll tell you all about it later.

So, in the end, it’s not really a debate about economics. It’s a debate about control. The EU wants to formalize everything, to put it all on the books so they can tax us, regulate it, and track it. And the Bulgarians, who have figured out how to get by in a system that doesn't really serve us, we want to keep our money where it belongs: in our pockets, in a neat pile of cash, and out of sight. That’s the unspoken resistance. The silent protest of a thousand tiny transactions, and nobody, on either side, seems to be honest enough to say it out loud. They all spill their nonsense of patriotism and sovereignty which is laughable.

As for me, I am all about adopting the euro, it's a great development. But I fail to see how it'll change our habits of shadiness. I mean, we've thrived on this approach for centuries, all the way back to Ottoman rule. There was this anecdote for when the Russian imperial army arrived in Bulgaria around 1878. The soldiers must have expected resentful, oppressed population, keen on severe resistance. Yet they found flourishing settlements, large houses, trade, agriculture, schools in villages, developed communities. They were saying stuff like "We're here to liberate them from the Turks but who's gonna liberate us?" Shut up, Russian, that's our mentality here, we gotta pretend we're way worse than we actually are.

The change of currency will in no way bring a change of heart. Sure, I might have some trouble exchanging leva to euro in a bank but so what? I won't go to the bank. As you saw, there are other means to do it. I really don't wanna go through the hassle but if I must do it so that I can keep the prying eyes of EU out of my business, I might as well get on to it.

Now, where's that house so I can pay for it in cash?

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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1497 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-31 23:09:56
August 31 2025 21:10 GMT
#2
To quote Paisius of Hilendar:
"Oh, you unwise moron! Why are you ashamed to call yourself a Bulgarian..."
(Unfortunately direct translation does NOT do justice to the old language used in the original text)
and it may not even be relevant to the thread, I just love that quote haha

I think it's the push towards cashless society (which has it's benefits for sure) that can squeeze out some shady practices, at least until digital alternatives are common, more so than the Euro itself (especially since we have been pegged to the Deutsche Mark and then the Euro since 1999).

Would nice if you can link that recent tax study or w/e u mentioned. I'm only seeing this old ass data:
https://www.taxobservatory.eu/repository/estimating-international-tax-evasion-by-individuals/
My point is EVERYBODY does it to a certain extent. (anecdotally I know a few "shady" native Germans). As much as we think ourselves special or unique either for our bad or good traits, we are not.
There's good case to be made EU tax law and anti-money laundering investigations is part of the reason why the UK pulled out.

Cash either physical or digital not yielding enough to at least cover inflation is a terrible investment.
I don't see why you would have a problem going to the bank? Getting out of it is a whole nother deal lel

Ramblings to be continued probably... There are deeper questions to be discussed about freedom, empire building (of which I personally still side with the States of Europe over the States of Russia) and many more...

Meanwhile in Sofia:

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LEKEY_NOOB
Profile Joined January 2025
Bulgaria10 Posts
September 01 2025 04:44 GMT
#3
I for one welcome the business opportunities that laundering money services will provide under tighter control.
:smug:
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-01 07:11:06
September 01 2025 07:06 GMT
#4
One of my customers is a media company that runs a chain of Adult Stores. The owner pays most of his employees in cash. He has $100,000 in cash in his condo. Many of his employees are on some form of disability via highly exaggerated or outright fake illnesses. His General Manager makes $4K a week once you include profit sharing and government disability payments. A lot of their retail customers prefer to pay in cash because they want to be 100% anonymous.

its a massive cash business. They keep all their data offline and DIY encrypted.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1497 Posts
September 01 2025 07:58 GMT
#5
On September 01 2025 16:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
One of my customers is a media company that runs a chain of Adult Stores. The owner pays most of his employees in cash. He has $100,000 in cash in his condo. Many of his employees are on some form of disability via highly exaggerated or outright fake illnesses. His General Manager makes $4K a week once you include profit sharing and government disability payments. A lot of their retail customers prefer to pay in cash because they want to be 100% anonymous.

its a massive cash business. They keep all their data offline and DIY encrypted.


UwU

That's a specific amount of cash and location u know about... ; D

By the way:
"Economists estimate that only about 8% of the world's total money supply is physical cash and coins, with the remaining 92% existing as digital money in bank accounts and computer servers."



ko-fi.com/luckynoob
LEKEY_NOOB
Profile Joined January 2025
Bulgaria10 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-01 08:54:47
September 01 2025 08:52 GMT
#6
On September 01 2025 16:58 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2025 16:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
One of my customers is a media company that runs a chain of Adult Stores. The owner pays most of his employees in cash. He has $100,000 in cash in his condo. Many of his employees are on some form of disability via highly exaggerated or outright fake illnesses. His General Manager makes $4K a week once you include profit sharing and government disability payments. A lot of their retail customers prefer to pay in cash because they want to be 100% anonymous.

its a massive cash business. They keep all their data offline and DIY encrypted.


UwU

That's a specific amount of cash and location u know about... ; D

A tempting business opportunity for a young Bulgarian like me. Invite yourself into his house and borrow his cash long term. What is going to do? Attract government attention to his disability scam?
:smug:
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-01 19:25:41
September 01 2025 19:13 GMT
#7
On September 01 2025 16:58 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2025 16:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
One of my customers is a media company that runs a chain of Adult Stores. The owner pays most of his employees in cash. He has $100,000 in cash in his condo. Many of his employees are on some form of disability via highly exaggerated or outright fake illnesses. His General Manager makes $4K a week once you include profit sharing and government disability payments. A lot of their retail customers prefer to pay in cash because they want to be 100% anonymous.

its a massive cash business. They keep all their data offline and DIY encrypted.


UwU

That's a specific amount of cash and location u know about... ; D

By the way:
"Economists estimate that only about 8% of the world's total money supply is physical cash and coins, with the remaining 92% existing as digital money in bank accounts and computer servers."

i'm his data guy. i know where many of the bodies are buried. Everything is DIY encrypted by me. Their POS system is made by me. everything is off the cloud and offline. Every LAN in each store is locked down. Whatever he tells the government is his biz.

I have no idea who the accounting people are.. and I don't want to know. I think he keeps his money in Curacao but I am not certain. And again, I don't want to know. That way when Revenue Canada or the IRS asks me about him I can honestly tell them that I have no idea.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10227 Posts
September 04 2025 21:01 GMT
#8
On September 01 2025 16:58 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2025 16:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
One of my customers is a media company that runs a chain of Adult Stores. The owner pays most of his employees in cash. He has $100,000 in cash in his condo. Many of his employees are on some form of disability via highly exaggerated or outright fake illnesses. His General Manager makes $4K a week once you include profit sharing and government disability payments. A lot of their retail customers prefer to pay in cash because they want to be 100% anonymous.

its a massive cash business. They keep all their data offline and DIY encrypted.


UwU

That's a specific amount of cash and location u know about... ; D

By the way:
"Economists estimate that only about 8% of the world's total money supply is physical cash and coins, with the remaining 92% existing as digital money in bank accounts and computer servers."




This is a great, and as far as I am aware, true statement.

If most money is "fake" in the sense that US debt alone is much higher than the amount of dollars printed and so is the circulating economy of the USA (which also mints many coins at a net loss vs. production costs), then it is almost certainly true elsewhere and worldwide. This means that cash businesses have the advantage of being tax-free and guaranteed. However, it also means that you are not taking advantage of relative leverage, in the sense that positive credit history and tracked finances can increase the likelihood for a loan or investment from the bank. So, it is a trade-off, one which either benefits you or doesn't depending on the nature of your finances and aspirations.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
September 07 2025 11:58 GMT
#9
On September 01 2025 16:58 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2025 16:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
One of my customers is a media company that runs a chain of Adult Stores. The owner pays most of his employees in cash. He has $100,000 in cash in his condo. Many of his employees are on some form of disability via highly exaggerated or outright fake illnesses. His General Manager makes $4K a week once you include profit sharing and government disability payments. A lot of their retail customers prefer to pay in cash because they want to be 100% anonymous.

its a massive cash business. They keep all their data offline and DIY encrypted.

That's a specific amount of cash and location u know about... ; D

i'm not being very precise with my comment because i did not say if it was USD and CAD.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
david234
Profile Joined September 2025
2 Posts
September 10 2025 08:21 GMT
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