EPTSnOw on 'Experimental' Nonstandard Maps in ASL
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jinjin5000
United States1456 Posts
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TMNT
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goody153
44228 Posts
Pretty sure that's why Sc2 looks so boring the recent years cause it is all macro maps and they allow map banning even when new maps are introduced It also allows strats to kinda evolve | ||
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_Zephyre_
France11 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
been saying this for decades on TL forums. since BW does not get balancing, the best (and only) way to balance and advance strategies is to have interesting and diverse maps. i really dislike being able to ban maps in tournaments, because hell, might as well put 7 maps of Fighting Spirit for every series, right? | ||
GTR
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polgas
Canada1763 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13291 Posts
On November 04 2025 01:00 TMNT wrote: He isn't wrong. First, just need to remove one gas from one of the two land expansions outside the nat, see how it goes, and continue to modify the map if needed. I reckon they need more buildable land in the middle island too. Protoss needs to be able to plant more cannons on there to have a chance of holding it. | ||
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SCRVN
106 Posts
(4) Fighting Spirit (2) Taebaek Mountains (2) Crossing Field (2) Third World (4) Sparkle (3) Inner Coven (4) 76 | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines395 Posts
Glad to see him being open to such maps. At least ASL is open to such maps as well to break the monotony. Hope that next season we get to see more of maps (just make sure it isn't something like sparkle) | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3070 Posts
On November 04 2025 12:14 SCRVN wrote: How about there is 1 standard map in the next ASL? (4) Fighting Spirit (2) Taebaek Mountains (2) Crossing Field (2) Third World (4) Sparkle (3) Inner Coven (4) 76 I would have a blast if the ratio were heavily in favor of the non-standard maps. And to keep making new ones. Tweak the gross imbalances and specifically target the rote shit like hydra busts. Maybe something to make ZvZ go longer. As a player, the only thing in my way of accepting a more interesting map pool would be my ego. Like do people really want to play on the same old bullshit maps for 25 years, or is it just because it's safe and comfortable. Like fuck, give tournament matches a 1% chance to spawn on Hunters. WWE this shit. It's the same game underneath, just way more vascular with some forced meta changes. | ||
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Kraekkling
534 Posts
Most of the times there's some optimal way to play these maps which gives a big advantage to one of the races. So when these maps are played in a tournament, one of the players is burdened with a mindset of "this is unwinnable". Its not right to try to evaluate these maps from the few games we get to see in ASL, because what we see there is mostly series preparation. You have to think of the hundreds of practice games where the stats are 80:20 or sth like that. Roaring Currents is in that sense a big big exception to the rule, where all matchups turned out to be mostly balanced. | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines589 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8489 Posts
On November 05 2025 03:01 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: if you want to help protoss win titles just put fastest map in the map pool haaa !! I really want Brain to win ASL haha  | ||
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