EPTSnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
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jinjin5000
United States1455 Posts
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goody153
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Also curious what are the builds he planned if he got the right spawn in each maps in the finals As always thanks for this Jinjin | ||
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sas.Sziky
Hungary311 Posts
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vndestiny
Singapore3441 Posts
i.e. Roaring Currents, what build can work only in top right but not bottom left? | ||
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G5
United States2915 Posts
On October 31 2025 00:43 sas.Sziky wrote: Jinjin saved the foreigner world in SC thanks man! But i am not sure Snow knows better than tl.net heroes so i am confused now someone can say for me what is imba now ? No, you're right. ZvP = 100% totally balanced with no advantage one way or the other. All Protoss players are just absolute bumbling morons compared to these genius-level Zerg players and that's why they have done so poorly against Zerg players over 20+ years. Makes total sense. I hope these tl.net heroes can finally STFU about imbalances and listen to SnOw who said he lost because he played poorly and there's no other reason than that (as he goes out to another Zerg in ASL and said he lost to basically every pro-Zerg in the scene during practice). All sarcasm aside, PvZ is clearly a winnable match up (as all MUs are) but to argue against Zerg having any sort of advantage in ZvP means you're either blind or you're being insincere IMO. It's like saying P doesn't have an advantage against T when that clearly isn't the case. Admitting that doesn't mean that imba is the reason people usually lose but to not admit clearly visible slight advantages in a MU is a weird stance to take by anyone. | ||
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sas.Sziky
Hungary311 Posts
On October 31 2025 01:20 G5 wrote: No, you're right. ZvP = 100% totally balanced with no advantage one way or the other. All Protoss players are just absolute bumbling morons compared to these genius-level Zerg players and that's why they have done so poorly against Zerg players over 20+ years. Makes total sense. I hope these tl.net heroes can finally STFU about imbalances and listen to SnOw who said he lost because he played poorly and there's no other reason than that (as he goes out to another Zerg in ASL and said he lost to basically every pro-Zerg in the scene during practice). All sarcasm aside, PvZ is clearly a winnable match up (as all MUs are) but to argue against Zerg having any sort of advantage in ZvP means you're either blind or you're being insincere IMO. It's like saying P doesn't have an advantage against T when that clearly isn't the case. Admitting that doesn't mean that imba is the reason people usually lose but to not admit clearly visible slight advantages in a MU is a weird stance to take by anyone. why u cant agree with players who is better than you ? well big different between you and me: i will not talking about Pro level ( because i am not here on pro level i cant clearly understand what is imba there or what is not ) i can say around my level but because there are many better zerg than me then i cant talk about balance. How u think u already can understand pro level its so insane for me sorry  + i remember the reason why and when u started to talking about balance and was disrespecting so please man :Dand btw dont said what i am dont said '' No, you're right. ZvP = 100% totally balanced with no advantage one way or the other. All Protoss players are just absolute bumbling morons compared to these genius-level Zerg players'' why u said this ? | ||
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sas.Sziky
Hungary311 Posts
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G5
United States2915 Posts
On October 31 2025 01:33 sas.Sziky wrote: why u cant agree with players who is better than you ? well big different between you and me: i will not talking about Pro level ( because i am not here on pro level i cant clearly understand what is imba there or what is not ) i can say around my level but because there are many better zerg than me then i cant talk about balance. How u think u already can understand pro level its so insane for me sorry + i remember the reason why and when u started to talking about balance and was disrespecting so please man :Dand btw dont said what i am dont said '' No, you're right. ZvP = 100% totally balanced with no advantage one way or the other. All Protoss players are just absolute bumbling morons compared to these genius-level Zerg players'' why u said this ? Sziky, you saying "why u cant agree with players who is better than you?" is not well thought out. I could say similar shit to you. You are aware Stork said PvZ is super imbalanced and Protoss' have basically given up trying to beat Zerg right? He's way better than you. Are you going to listen to him? Probably not. We all have our own opinions and just because someone is better than us doesn't mean their right. You and I both disagree on stuff but we're both better than at least half the people on this forum. Should they all listen to us? Of course not cuss at least one of us is wrong. Come on man, that's just a take that you really didn't think through. Also, if you're talking about your level and not pro level, why are you even commenting about balance here. This is a video of a professional Protoss player discussing his experience in the finals of the top tournament in the world. Obviously we're discussing pro stuff here and in ASL threads. In regards to the "dont said what i am dont said", listen, I know English is your second language (no hate, only respect for knowing an additional language), so I'm guessing you don't know sarcasm well in this language. So, perhaps I shouldn't have littered my statement with so much of it. But that is sarcasm. But whatever dude, if you wanna go around defending ZvP balance, have at it. As I said before though, I think you'd have to either be blind or insincere to not admit clear slight advantages in a match up. I think you know this game well and I don't think you're dumb at all, so I think you're quite simply being insincere. With all that said, I don't hate you or dislike you dude. I disagree with a ton of the shit you post, as I'm sure you do with me, but honestly, no personal hate whatsoever. Please don't think that, ever. I wish you the best, always. | ||
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zelevin
United States295 Posts
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