EPTSwitching from SC2 to BW
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DerpDog
Korea (North)62 Posts
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
FS D/D- ZvP u P Most of the time you will have a < 170 APM opponent. Also, don't host weird maps, the only maps you should host are Fighting Spirit, Python, Destination. No low-level player will play you in weird maps. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
It just takes time and persistence. People still answer questions and reply to replays if you post them in the BW strategy section. You just have to show some effort in finding out why you lost by yourself before someone will comment. Don't upload a replay if it clearly shows you supply capped the whole game, with 3K minerals or something crazy that anyone can obviously tell you have to work on your macro. If you truly are stumped at why you lost the game... upload it up and we'll be happy to help you go over the game. PS: This is a tough Iccup season... "D" level is pretty broad right now. D- is obviously a lot easier, but from D through D+ you'll be playing some smurfs/new accounts or just generally good players. Most people playing BW are hardcore fans to the game it's not like SC2 where people that never even played an RTS before just jump into the game and instantly get thrown into the bronze league. Iccup isn't really meant for beginners... I mean yeah there is D- & E rank, but there are not that many of those type players. You can get to D+ if you just focus on your build orders/micro/macro and study your weaknesses. It's not that hard... Don't let the D level get you down. You're not the only one that thinks D rank is tough. | ||
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Exchange
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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Darth Saros
Czech Republic245 Posts
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
Go to channel "op teamliquid" and ask for practice games with people there, or obv others play, it helps alot. Also it's never too late. Things like game sense, timing, and macro will naturally come as you play more and more. For now, read liquipedia for some opening builds, and try the ones you like. Don't worry about winning and losing, just focus on making sure you're using all the resources. Watching your own replays can really help in identifying what you're doing wrong and where you need to improve. | ||
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DerpDog
Korea (North)62 Posts
It's just frustrating when I keep getting people who are obviously not D level players, and I don't learn the way I would with practice partners who can "get the feel" for a matchup the way I do in SC2. I did play enough SC2 to have very one-sided games against some D+ players (I had some who just stay on two bases, never attack and never expand beyond their natural), but then I get owned badly three times in a row by the smurfs I already mentioned, and I know that it's usually because of inferior micro / macro, but the skill gap is so big I don't think that means I should work on my ling micro to hold 2 gates, when I barely understand how the match ups work in general. So, how do I avoid smurf accounts on iCCup, and would it be a good idea to find people to play with consistently? If so, where do I find active ones? | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 23 2011 20:46 DerpDog wrote: I can't host right now unfortunately, but I'm going to try and get my internet fixed. Perhaps that would help? I always join games, and try to stick to the maps I know (FS, Python, Destination, Blue Storm etc). I did play a lot of SC2, and while mechanics are a lot different in the two games, I don't feel like that's my biggest problem. I have read the "How to improve" guide, as well as the zerg beginner guide. It's just frustrating when I keep getting people who are obviously not D level players, and I don't learn the way I would with practice partners who can "get the feel" for a matchup the way I do in SC2. I did play enough SC2 to have very one-sided games against some D+ players (I had some who just stay on two bases, never attack and never expand beyond their natural), but then I get owned badly three times in a row by the smurfs I already mentioned, and I know that it's usually because of inferior micro / macro, but the skill gap is so big I don't think that means I should work on my ling micro to hold 2 gates, when I barely understand how the match ups work in general. So, how do I avoid smurf accounts on iCCup, and would it be a good idea to find people to play with consistently? If so, where do I find active ones? As long you ladder on iccup you will meet smurft it is inevitable its a part of learning process in iccup like the wilderness where the big fishes eat the small fishes and you as the small fish has to grow big to fight back the bullies . Good luck get some friends to play with you and keep practicing with them and get better than come back for laddering . | ||
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GeckoVOD
Germany814 Posts
Try that thread, try to add them, try to see if you get some in MSN or try to idle that chan. It's not really full all the time, but around 20:00-01:00 the chan is quite full | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9455 Posts
On January 23 2011 20:46 DerpDog wrote: So, how do I avoid smurf accounts on iCCup, and would it be a good idea to find people to play with consistently? If so, where do I find active ones? This is definitely what you should do now. Find people who are willing to practice with you and even if you find way better people than you, you can still learn a lot from them if they give you tips and guidance. You can find such people in op Teamliquid channel on iCCup or as someone already mentioned iCCup Training Program (although I never was in that channel so I can't say how it looks like). But I can definitely say that in op Teamliquid people are willing to help other people even if they are way better than them. There are always people in op Teamliquid, but sometimes they are all afk so it might take some time, but not too much. Good luck. | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
/rl 600 1200 only players with a rating between 600 and 1200 will see your game, so it becomes a lot easier for you to play against bad players. if you want to avoid smurfs, just don't play against people with ratings like 1000, 1130, 1260 and so on. finally, always remember that most human beings with a [KR]-tag are in fact starcraft robots from outer space. | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On January 23 2011 20:46 DerpDog wrote: I can't host right now unfortunately, but I'm going to try and get my internet fixed. Perhaps that would help? Yeah from my experience newbies tend to join and smurfs tend to host, so if you host you will less likely face a smurf. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4119 Posts
On January 23 2011 21:13 virpi wrote: if you are able to host games, use this command in the chat: /rl 600 1200 only players with a rating between 600 and 1200 will see your game, so it becomes a lot easier for you to play against bad players. if you want to avoid smurfs, just don't play against people with ratings like 1000, 1130, 1260 and so on. finally, always remember that most human beings with a [KR]-tag are in fact starcraft robots from outer space. Rofl that's exactly what I did to dodge Koreans. If u see the tag kr and they have a points like 1120, 1260 etc just dodge them. No fun gettig raped | ||
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Nazza
Australia1654 Posts
On January 23 2011 20:30 kamikami wrote: You should host yourself : Host a name like this : FS D/D- ZvP u P Most of the time you will have a < 170 APM opponent. Also, don't host weird maps, the only maps you should host are Fighting Spirit, Python, Destination. No low-level player will play you in weird maps. I had a friend who was a fan of Flash who hosted a map on Benzene. He 14 cc'ed whilst the opponent 1 based and built 14 photon cannons.... This was obviously in D.... | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On January 23 2011 21:45 Nazza wrote: I had a friend who was a fan of Flash who hosted a map on Benzene. He 14 cc'ed whilst the opponent 1 based and built 14 photon cannons.... This was obviously in D.... Lol that guy is not even low-level, he obviously doesn't know which map is weird and which map is not, so it doesn't count. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2727 Posts
On January 23 2011 21:45 Nazza wrote: I had a friend who was a fan of Flash who hosted a map on Benzene. He 14 cc'ed whilst the opponent 1 based and built 14 photon cannons.... This was obviously in D.... Well my grandpa is 92 and he smokes so smoking doesn't kill you. To the OP: it is never too late. It is hard however. It takes a few months of getting owned on iccup but once you get your strategy tighter you will start to take games left and right. Look in the stickied topics in the broodwar strategy section to help you further. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8594 Posts
but other than that its good to see you have decided to stay away from the dark side. sc2 sucks more than iccup does | ||
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