• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:28
CEST 16:28
KST 23:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection1Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th110Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League5Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double1Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th The death of cheese, from a professional cheeser. TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Changing from 12 to 8 is just asking for StarCraft Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Soma's ASL Finals Review FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event VPN experiences
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2764 users

Master's Coliseum 8 - Group B: MaxPax, Reynor, Rogue, SKi…

Forum Index > SC2 General
2 CommentsPost a Reply

Master's Coliseum 8 - Group B: MaxPax, Reynor, Rogue, SKillous

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
December 21st, 2024 04:00 GMT

Master's Coliseum #8

RO16 Group B Preview: MaxPax, Reynor, Rogue, SKillous

Saturday, Dec 21 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) & Sunday, Dec 22 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

by Wax

The opening group of Master's Coliseum saw Serral advance with a 3-0 record as expected while Astrea chased behind in second place. This weekend, we move on to Group B, where the race to advance projects to be much more competitive and unpredictable.

Master's Coliseum #8


Enigmatic Protoss MaxPax comes in as the top seed of the group, but he remains difficult to evaluate despite his undeniable talent.

At first glance, he looks like one of Protoss's best hopes to win a meaningful event for the first time in nearly two years. The online-only Master's Coliseum seems tailor made for an online-only player like MaxPax, whose domination of weekly cups and other smaller online events has elevated him to #3 in the world according to Aligulac.com (behind only Serral and Clem). The problem is, Master's Coliseum isn't just another small online event—it's one of the few $10k+ tier tournaments held in such a setting. And, when you check MaxPax's track record in online events where there's more than a few hundred bucks on the line, he looks less like a top player and more like another 'very good' one.

Consider the previous Master's Coliseum #7. He narrowly escaped the Swiss-style group stage with a 3-2 record, and was promptly bounced from the playoffs with losses to herO (2-3) and Dark (0-4). He did better at Master's Coliseum #6 by finishing top-six, but it didn't seem like he had a serious chance to end Protoss' title drought. Meanwhile, the softer EPT Europe regionals have gone somewhat better for MaxPax, as he achieved a pair of runner-up and one top-six finish during the 2023/24 EPT Season. However, the two second place finishes came with some asterisks, with one tournament lacking Serral due to his military service, and the other giving him a lucky bracket during ESL's one-off flirtation with single-elimination.

Even online-only players can suffer from big tournament jitters, and I have to think MaxPax is dealing with that same, age-old affliction. Now, SC2 history shows that given enough time, most players will overcome such hurdles—Trap, Cure, and Creator are the names that come to mind from relatively recent vintage. I think MaxPax's potential is greater than any of the previous trio, and he absolutely could be a legit championship contender at MC8 if he can play at his best. However, seeing is believing, and I've yet to see MaxPax unlock that level of play in a high-stakes event. That could be a problem as early as the group stages, as he faces three opponents who have considerable upside.

It goes without saying that MaxPax should be concerned about the world championship-winning duo of Reynor and Rogue. Sure, when you look at their recent performances, it's clear that neither Zerg is playing close to their world champion level. Reynor was admittedly out of practice at HomeStory Cup 26, and didn't seem to be all that perturbed about dropping out in the group stages. As for Rogue, he's made a decent recovery since returning from military service in the spring, but his play remains rather inconsistent (and he was already inconsistent in his prime).

However, years ago, I promised myself I would never doubt Rogue again in an important match, no matter how poorly he was playing prior. He's burned his haters too many times with his play-like-s*** to play-like-god turnarounds, and even the Republic of Korea military can't make me question his abilities (also, military service is not the career-killer it used to be). Nevermind that he was eliminated in the group stage of his last Code S event, and that he fell out in the RO24 of EPT Spring—my belief is (mostly) unwavering.

Honestly, I feel similarly about Reynor. His career has some curious similarities with illustrious peers like INnoVation and Rogue, with all three winning their biggest paydays in an 'out of nowhere' fashion. No matter what the recent results look like for these guys, if there's something meaningful to play for, you have to extend them the benefit of the doubt.

The question here is whether or not there is something to play for. Due to the similar format and the lack of anything else on the calendar, I'm treating Master's Coliseum as being GSL-adjacent in terms of tournament coverage. But for players who are stuck in limbo, awaiting an ESL announcement, who knows how much they've bought into various community events? Reynor said in a vlog post that he plans to continue playing SC2 as long as there's tournaments, but I have to wonder what his drive is like during an in-between period like this. When there's no world championship to aim for, perhaps the auras of Rogue and Reynor must be reexamined.

Rounding out the group is SKillous, who's been one of the more interesting player growth stories of the last few years. He's gradually elevated his game to where he can place top four at mid-tier tournaments (HSC 24, StarsWar 11) when everything is clicking, but he also suffers from extreme inconsistency and has dropped out of the early rounds of many other events.

The strong version of SKillous showed up for the MC8 global qualifier, allowing him to 2-0 Solar and earn this main event spot. However, it's basically a crapshoot as to what his level of play will be when it comes time to play in this group. SKillous actually beat MaxPax 2-1 just yesterday in the WardiTV Christmas tournament, which was a timely reminder of his upside. If the two legendary Zergs show less than legendary play, then even a 3-0 first place finish could be on the table for SKillous.

Predictions

Aligulac.com sees this group as fairly straight forward, with MaxPax favored to advance in first place while Reynor faces only a mild challenge from Rogue and SKillous in the race for second. However, I'm going to pick with my heart instead of my head, and say that the eternal class of Rogue and Reynor will see them through.

Is it because I really believe that they're gonna lock in and treat this like a tournament of the highest caliber? Not really. But during this time of great uncertainty for StarCraft II, I want to believe a tournament Master's Coliseum can rise to that level.

Reynor and Rogue to advance.



Credits and acknowledgements

Writer: Wax
Images: SCBOY
Records and Statistics: Aligulac.com and Liquipedia

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-21 19:42:46
December 21 2024 19:42 GMT
#2
is this an attemp at a slowest serious sc2 tournament ever?

completely kills any hype tbh
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
December 21 2024 19:54 GMT
#3
Hope MaxPax will perform as well in MC8 as he does in the weeklies!
Tag den hjem Max!
~~(,,ºº>
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#89
IntoTheiNu 1524
WardiTV1231
Rex154
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 305
LamboSC2 234
Rex 154
ProTech83
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 1094
Jaedong 1070
EffOrt 736
actioN 305
Light 243
Soulkey 189
Backho 188
Zeus 125
hero 85
Pusan 64
[ Show more ]
[sc1f]eonzerg 60
ToSsGirL 59
sSak 52
Aegong 47
PianO 34
Movie 27
zelot 25
IntoTheRainbow 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
soO 13
sorry 12
Sacsri 11
Shine 11
Dota 2
qojqva2818
Dendi1666
XaKoH 504
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_57
Other Games
singsing3034
B2W.Neo1091
hiko986
Lowko538
Hui .211
Mew2King64
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV196
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 57
• mYiSmile115
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV396
League of Legends
• Jankos2951
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 32m
Replay Cast
9h 32m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19h 32m
WardiTV Spring Champion…
20h 32m
Maestros of the Game
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 19h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Solar vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
GSL
5 days
herO vs Rogue
Maru vs Cure
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KK 2v2 League Season 1
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Murky Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.