• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:42
CET 22:42
KST 06:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC211[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
Mutation # 552 Secret Storm The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift
Brood War
General
Korean players' earnings Hit New All-Time High! BW General Discussion List of top players active on ShieldBattery SOOP Hosts SC1 & SC2 Event Tournament: Kevin Scrim BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10364 users

Master's Coliseum 8 - Group B: MaxPax, Reynor, Rogue, SKi…

Forum Index > SC2 General
2 CommentsPost a Reply

Master's Coliseum 8 - Group B: MaxPax, Reynor, Rogue, SKillous

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
December 21st, 2024 04:00 GMT

Master's Coliseum #8

RO16 Group B Preview: MaxPax, Reynor, Rogue, SKillous

Saturday, Dec 21 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) & Sunday, Dec 22 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

by Wax

The opening group of Master's Coliseum saw Serral advance with a 3-0 record as expected while Astrea chased behind in second place. This weekend, we move on to Group B, where the race to advance projects to be much more competitive and unpredictable.

Master's Coliseum #8


Enigmatic Protoss MaxPax comes in as the top seed of the group, but he remains difficult to evaluate despite his undeniable talent.

At first glance, he looks like one of Protoss's best hopes to win a meaningful event for the first time in nearly two years. The online-only Master's Coliseum seems tailor made for an online-only player like MaxPax, whose domination of weekly cups and other smaller online events has elevated him to #3 in the world according to Aligulac.com (behind only Serral and Clem). The problem is, Master's Coliseum isn't just another small online event—it's one of the few $10k+ tier tournaments held in such a setting. And, when you check MaxPax's track record in online events where there's more than a few hundred bucks on the line, he looks less like a top player and more like another 'very good' one.

Consider the previous Master's Coliseum #7. He narrowly escaped the Swiss-style group stage with a 3-2 record, and was promptly bounced from the playoffs with losses to herO (2-3) and Dark (0-4). He did better at Master's Coliseum #6 by finishing top-six, but it didn't seem like he had a serious chance to end Protoss' title drought. Meanwhile, the softer EPT Europe regionals have gone somewhat better for MaxPax, as he achieved a pair of runner-up and one top-six finish during the 2023/24 EPT Season. However, the two second place finishes came with some asterisks, with one tournament lacking Serral due to his military service, and the other giving him a lucky bracket during ESL's one-off flirtation with single-elimination.

Even online-only players can suffer from big tournament jitters, and I have to think MaxPax is dealing with that same, age-old affliction. Now, SC2 history shows that given enough time, most players will overcome such hurdles—Trap, Cure, and Creator are the names that come to mind from relatively recent vintage. I think MaxPax's potential is greater than any of the previous trio, and he absolutely could be a legit championship contender at MC8 if he can play at his best. However, seeing is believing, and I've yet to see MaxPax unlock that level of play in a high-stakes event. That could be a problem as early as the group stages, as he faces three opponents who have considerable upside.

It goes without saying that MaxPax should be concerned about the world championship-winning duo of Reynor and Rogue. Sure, when you look at their recent performances, it's clear that neither Zerg is playing close to their world champion level. Reynor was admittedly out of practice at HomeStory Cup 26, and didn't seem to be all that perturbed about dropping out in the group stages. As for Rogue, he's made a decent recovery since returning from military service in the spring, but his play remains rather inconsistent (and he was already inconsistent in his prime).

However, years ago, I promised myself I would never doubt Rogue again in an important match, no matter how poorly he was playing prior. He's burned his haters too many times with his play-like-s*** to play-like-god turnarounds, and even the Republic of Korea military can't make me question his abilities (also, military service is not the career-killer it used to be). Nevermind that he was eliminated in the group stage of his last Code S event, and that he fell out in the RO24 of EPT Spring—my belief is (mostly) unwavering.

Honestly, I feel similarly about Reynor. His career has some curious similarities with illustrious peers like INnoVation and Rogue, with all three winning their biggest paydays in an 'out of nowhere' fashion. No matter what the recent results look like for these guys, if there's something meaningful to play for, you have to extend them the benefit of the doubt.

The question here is whether or not there is something to play for. Due to the similar format and the lack of anything else on the calendar, I'm treating Master's Coliseum as being GSL-adjacent in terms of tournament coverage. But for players who are stuck in limbo, awaiting an ESL announcement, who knows how much they've bought into various community events? Reynor said in a vlog post that he plans to continue playing SC2 as long as there's tournaments, but I have to wonder what his drive is like during an in-between period like this. When there's no world championship to aim for, perhaps the auras of Rogue and Reynor must be reexamined.

Rounding out the group is SKillous, who's been one of the more interesting player growth stories of the last few years. He's gradually elevated his game to where he can place top four at mid-tier tournaments (HSC 24, StarsWar 11) when everything is clicking, but he also suffers from extreme inconsistency and has dropped out of the early rounds of many other events.

The strong version of SKillous showed up for the MC8 global qualifier, allowing him to 2-0 Solar and earn this main event spot. However, it's basically a crapshoot as to what his level of play will be when it comes time to play in this group. SKillous actually beat MaxPax 2-1 just yesterday in the WardiTV Christmas tournament, which was a timely reminder of his upside. If the two legendary Zergs show less than legendary play, then even a 3-0 first place finish could be on the table for SKillous.

Predictions

Aligulac.com sees this group as fairly straight forward, with MaxPax favored to advance in first place while Reynor faces only a mild challenge from Rogue and SKillous in the race for second. However, I'm going to pick with my heart instead of my head, and say that the eternal class of Rogue and Reynor will see them through.

Is it because I really believe that they're gonna lock in and treat this like a tournament of the highest caliber? Not really. But during this time of great uncertainty for StarCraft II, I want to believe a tournament Master's Coliseum can rise to that level.

Reynor and Rogue to advance.



Credits and acknowledgements

Writer: Wax
Images: SCBOY
Records and Statistics: Aligulac.com and Liquipedia

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4300 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-21 19:42:46
December 21 2024 19:42 GMT
#2
is this an attemp at a slowest serious sc2 tournament ever?

completely kills any hype tbh
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
December 21 2024 19:54 GMT
#3
Hope MaxPax will perform as well in MC8 as he does in the weeklies!
Tag den hjem Max!
~~(,,ºº>
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
05:00
S23 - Ro16 Group C
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
ZZZero.O503
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1401
ZZZero.O 503
firebathero 67
Counter-Strike
zeus945
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang092
AZ_Axe57
Mew2King47
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor359
Other Games
tarik_tv4302
Grubby3177
Liquid`RaSZi2432
syndereN228
UpATreeSC33
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2621
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 24
EmSc2Tv 24
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 89
• Hinosc 29
• Adnapsc2 19
• Reevou 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1403
• Shiphtur470
Upcoming Events
SOOP
12h 19m
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
14h 19m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 19h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
5 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL
6 days
Bonyth vs Doodle
Kyrie vs Jimin
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.