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DerpDog
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (North)62 Posts
October 27 2011 08:31 GMT
#121
Thanks guys, the BW community has always been so nice to me!

I did return to SC2 for a couple months (last few, not after trying to play BW first time around), but eh... Honestly didn't enjoy it much at any point. I don't hate the game or anything like that, I just really prefer BW and once I started watching it, it's the only game I ever really wanted to get good at. Probably one of the reasons I used to get so angry at SC2, when I lose at BW I have a big smile on my face. :D

I'm currently hovering at about 130apm when playing single player (just trying to macro). I'm not too concerned about it, I had 190 in SC2 and so far I have gone from 90ish to 130 in a few days with not that many games. So I don't think it will be my biggest problem for a while, right now I just need to pick some builds, study match ups and practice until I can do them in my sleep. Gonna focus on TvP first! Been trying to just do siege expand opening and then sort of wing it from there, but learning more every day. Might start streaming once I have some basic builds down, would be really cool to have other players point out my mistakes if they happen to watch.
Kassploj
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden67 Posts
October 27 2011 08:39 GMT
#122
I will be online in a few hours from now and play Protoss, so if you wanna play some practice games just send off a clan message and its on. Unfortunately I'm really bad at T and Z so can't give very in-depth advice, but I can hopefully help with some TvP details at least.
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
October 27 2011 08:43 GMT
#123
Good job Derpdog. Keep at it and eventually you will reach new higher levels in BW.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 27 2011 09:24 GMT
#124
130 isn't bad but TvP.... well you need more really for that one particularly. T in general.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
October 27 2011 09:47 GMT
#125
On October 27 2011 17:31 DerpDog wrote:
Thanks guys, the BW community has always been so nice to me!

I did return to SC2 for a couple months (last few, not after trying to play BW first time around), but eh... Honestly didn't enjoy it much at any point. I don't hate the game or anything like that, I just really prefer BW and once I started watching it, it's the only game I ever really wanted to get good at. Probably one of the reasons I used to get so angry at SC2, when I lose at BW I have a big smile on my face. :D

I'm currently hovering at about 130apm when playing single player (just trying to macro). I'm not too concerned about it, I had 190 in SC2 and so far I have gone from 90ish to 130 in a few days with not that many games. So I don't think it will be my biggest problem for a while, right now I just need to pick some builds, study match ups and practice until I can do them in my sleep. Gonna focus on TvP first! Been trying to just do siege expand opening and then sort of wing it from there, but learning more every day. Might start streaming once I have some basic builds down, would be really cool to have other players point out my mistakes if they happen to watch.


Definitely stream, we need more BW streamers

With 130 apm you should be able to hit mid D. Honestly all the P's at D level are just cheesers in PvT and its just a matter of knowing how to defend against it and then rofl-stomping them with a 2 base 4 fact timing.
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
October 27 2011 10:24 GMT
#126
On October 27 2011 17:31 DerpDog wrote:
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Thanks guys, the BW community has always been so nice to me!

I did return to SC2 for a couple months (last few, not after trying to play BW first time around), but eh... Honestly didn't enjoy it much at any point. I don't hate the game or anything like that, I just really prefer BW and once I started watching it, it's the only game I ever really wanted to get good at. Probably one of the reasons I used to get so angry at SC2, when I lose at BW I have a big smile on my face. :D

I'm currently hovering at about 130apm when playing single player (just trying to macro). I'm not too concerned about it, I had 190 in SC2 and so far I have gone from 90ish to 130 in a few days with not that many games. So I don't think it will be my biggest problem for a while, right now I just need to pick some builds, study match ups and practice until I can do them in my sleep. Gonna focus on TvP first! Been trying to just do siege expand opening and then sort of wing it from there, but learning more every day. Might start streaming once I have some basic builds down, would be really cool to have other players point out my mistakes if they happen to watch.

Siege expand is the best build for starters but my favorite TvP build is of course FD. The build always has an impact on newbies.

Also for TvP, learn how to do zealot-proof walls that aren't marine-proof so you can micro your marines around without getting hit by zealots. It works quite well when you're doing an FD, which you shouldn't be concerned about too much by now. And snipe those templars with your vultures.

We should play some more in the future if you're still going with the same id (DerpDog).
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DerpDog
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (North)62 Posts
October 27 2011 14:46 GMT
#127
Thanks again guys, the support here is amazing!

130 APM certainly isn't a lot, but I don't feel hand speed is a problem at all right now. It's hard to have a lot of effective APM when your brain just doesn't know what to do haha, so really I am not worried about playing faster at this point. It will automatically get higher when I know what to do, at least until a point where I have to play faster (in terms of hand speed) than I did in SC2. Doesn't matter if I have 400apm if I don't know how to use it!

Kassploj: Would love to play you man, but I have no idea how to write clan messages haha! My ID is sGsDerpDog and I'm in the Skype group too, so there are definitely ways to get a hold of me. :D I'm always on Skype, so just give a shout in the group!

Djagulingu: Yeah I just had a look at the article on it, looks really cool! Walling and building placement is general is definitely something I need to figure out. I looked at the article for it, but still not 100% sure if I place them correctly. I'm gonna try to find some FPVODs so I can just pause and see how the pros do it and copy. My ID now is sGsDerpDog.
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