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Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
January 25 2011 01:04 GMT
#101
D zerg... pm me or add me in iccup same name...
Stork FAN!!!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
January 25 2011 01:24 GMT
#102
On January 25 2011 08:51 Frigo wrote:
They do not necessarily smurf due to malice, smurfing is natural on iccup due to ladder resets. Even A+ guys have to fight their way through the D ladder next season. They should really fix it some way.

They could do what they did on their DotA servers. Those who were in Blue ranks last season, start new season with 2000 points and those who were in Green ranks, start new season with 3000 points (not sure is it 2000/3000 or 3000/4000, but you get my point).
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 25 2011 02:32 GMT
#103
On January 25 2011 00:45 CrownRoyal wrote:
what u guys dont realize is obviously im going to spike at 250+

its just u can macro 95% efficiently with 50apm and u dont need to spam

I never said the problem was your APM. 150 APM is enough for B, if you're a smart player. I'm just saying B+ on PGT is not the same as iCCup. Ret, when he was doing really well at SC:BW, had trouble breaking into A- and staying there. It might be in part due to a different point system, but it's also due to the game getting a lot more demanding at all levels.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 25 2011 03:12 GMT
#104
I used to do a lot of D- games on HBR.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 07:46:47
January 25 2011 07:46 GMT
#105
On January 25 2011 12:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I used to do a lot of D- games on HBR.

Me too. PvT on HBR was imba at low levels where the Terran didn't have the micro to do a strong macro build. Without a ramp, 10-15 gate delayed the expansion waaaaay too long. Dropships were rape tho.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
January 25 2011 08:28 GMT
#106
On January 25 2011 16:46 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 12:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I used to do a lot of D- games on HBR.

Me too. PvT on HBR was imba at low levels where the Terran didn't have the micro to do a strong macro build. Without a ramp, 10-15 gate delayed the expansion waaaaay too long. Dropships were rape tho.


i hate those ridges .. FS all the way!
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1608 Posts
January 25 2011 09:25 GMT
#107
i think it's important to point the fact that C+ today, is easily a B- 6 months ago, ur apm doesn't mean much at D level, i sincerely believe that 200apm is a must when it comes to defiler in z v t, not speaking of muta micro. z v p is really the only match up which at a descent level (C+) having 175 apm is ok (standard macro oriented game)
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 09:44:58
January 25 2011 09:44 GMT
#108
DTs can be imba .. BUT DAMN TANKS ARE MORE IMBA DAMN IT!

+ Show Spoiler [WHY?] +
just got rolled


play more iccup guys ..

1 question .. every people with [KR] tag are really from korea?
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 10:11:36
January 25 2011 09:54 GMT
#109
On January 25 2011 16:46 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 12:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I used to do a lot of D- games on HBR.

Me too. PvT on HBR was imba at low levels where the Terran didn't have the micro to do a strong macro build. Without a ramp, 10-15 gate delayed the expansion waaaaay too long. Dropships were rape tho.

Yea HBR was brutal for noobie terrans. You try to secure your 3rd and 4th, place your tanks along the ridges, and then BOOM!
Doom recall in your main. FUUUUUUUUU GG
Fighting Spirit is much friendlier for me. Fortress is very fun too.

Btw, are there any maps that are pretty beginner friendly other than FS? (and please not python)
I'm talking about some of the newer maps like Empire of the Sun or Grand Line that looks pretty fun, but I haven't played on it nor do I see people host it.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
January 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#110
On January 25 2011 18:54 don_kyuhote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 16:46 Gummy wrote:
On January 25 2011 12:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I used to do a lot of D- games on HBR.

Me too. PvT on HBR was imba at low levels where the Terran didn't have the micro to do a strong macro build. Without a ramp, 10-15 gate delayed the expansion waaaaay too long. Dropships were rape tho.

Yea HBR was brutal for noobie terrans. You try to secure your 3rd and 4th, place your tanks along the ridges, and then BOOM!
Doom recall in your main. FUUUUUUUUU GG
Fighting Spirit is much friendlier for me. Fortress is very fun too.

Btw, are there any maps that are pretty beginner friendly other than FS? (and please not python)
I'm talking about some of the newer maps like Empire of the Sun or Grand Line that looks pretty fun, but I haven't played on it nor do I see people host it.


python seems alright whats wrong with it?? its a pretty noob friendly map
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 25 2011 11:13 GMT
#111
just don't play against koreans.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66202 Posts
January 25 2011 11:39 GMT
#112
just dodge Koreans, works most of the time :D
POGGERS
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#113
On January 25 2011 18:44 aimaimaim wrote:
1 question .. every people with [KR] tag are really from korea?

They were in KR when they registered, so pretty much yes.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
DerpDog
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (North)62 Posts
October 26 2011 11:01 GMT
#114
Sorry for bumping this thread (I know mods frown upon it, but hear me out!).

So I really, really wanted to play BW. Loved the game and still do and never stopped watching BW VODs and commentaries. However, sadly my ISP refused to help me out with my port problem, and since my family has a business package, the router was locked and the only way to fix it was to pay 150+ euro. Just to open up the ports, and even then I wasn't sure if it would be enough.

Well the good news is that after calling my ISP three times, they finally decided to open up my ports and I'll finally be able to play BW properly! Before it was rare that I would be able to join a game, and when I could, it would usually lag a lot. So far it's working for me though, and since I haven't seen any of the people who wrote in this thread online, I hope it's okay that I bump it. I'm still looking for people to play against (either noobs like me or experienced players who can help me in the right direction) and of course any advice you can give me in general would be very much appreciated! I play Terran now by the way, and joined sGs, so you can add sGsDerpDog on iCCup.

Hope to cya all soon! <3
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1689 Posts
October 26 2011 11:52 GMT
#115
GL man, sGs is the right way to go for you. I hope you enjoy yourself now
EleGant[AoV]
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
October 26 2011 12:54 GMT
#116
heh sgs helped me a bit aswel^^ i might can help you with macro. even my rank isnt that high i think i got decent understanding of mechanics and a great way to learn you macro. i already helped like 7 ppl out off like e/d- to D XD so maby i can help you out.

yust pm me: sabas123 or sgs.sabastiaan

btw was 2e in the sgs tour
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
October 26 2011 13:08 GMT
#117
haha, nice to hear from you again after 9 months.
=)
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
October 26 2011 13:24 GMT
#118
I have the same problem as you. People claiming to be noobs who are actually Khan B-teamers.

Read liquipedia
Study replays

That's pretty much all you can do apart from play.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
October 26 2011 13:29 GMT
#119
On October 26 2011 20:01 DerpDog wrote:
Sorry for bumping this thread (I know mods frown upon it, but hear me out!).

So I really, really wanted to play BW. Loved the game and still do and never stopped watching BW VODs and commentaries. However, sadly my ISP refused to help me out with my port problem, and since my family has a business package, the router was locked and the only way to fix it was to pay 150+ euro. Just to open up the ports, and even then I wasn't sure if it would be enough.

Well the good news is that after calling my ISP three times, they finally decided to open up my ports and I'll finally be able to play BW properly! Before it was rare that I would be able to join a game, and when I could, it would usually lag a lot. So far it's working for me though, and since I haven't seen any of the people who wrote in this thread online, I hope it's okay that I bump it. I'm still looking for people to play against (either noobs like me or experienced players who can help me in the right direction) and of course any advice you can give me in general would be very much appreciated! I play Terran now by the way, and joined sGs, so you can add sGsDerpDog on iCCup.

Hope to cya all soon! <3


I thought you had quit BW and returned to SC2 actually...
I'm always skeptical on these stuffs....
Glad to hear you can play BW properly now
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
October 26 2011 13:38 GMT
#120
Concerning the APM discussion: I managed to hit B- with 130-150 APM ( I was zerg), this was around the same time SC2Beta came out. I don't know how I'd do now though
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