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[Interview] Grrrr... 2024

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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
December 14 2024 12:54 GMT
#16
On December 14 2024 21:15 iFU.pauline wrote:
Frankly, he exagerrates with the Flash Jaedong rivalry not existing. Jaedong probably had way more chances to win vs Flash than Yellow against Boxer and yet he talks about a rivalry between Boxer and Yellow. Who in the world would bet for Yellow back in the day unless you were a zerg player like me blinded by faith .
Flash has 3 OSL and so Jaedong, Nada and July. If Flash was so beyond Jaedong then why doesn't he have 6 OSL? It is the same generation, winrate doesn't do all. In fact, I would argue that if there was ONE rivalry to remember during the pro era, it would be exactly Jaedong vs Flash.
I assume it is simply a fan vision from Grrrrr... which I totally understand as we are all passionated people, but the way he puts it really sound like it was Peter McNeele against Mike Tyson lol.



I think he talked it in a statistical way, which I can get behind. It is kind crazy. Jaedong amazing player for sure.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5614 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-14 16:39:51
December 14 2024 16:39 GMT
#17
On December 14 2024 21:20 Elroi wrote:
Nice interview! Thanks for sharing. Surprised that they didn't talk at all about life after Starcraft. Didn't he become a poker player?

The point of this interview was to talk about Starcraft and get a better picture of its history, so imo it makes sense.

Also if Zombiegrub will interview Elky as well, it makes more sense to talk a little bit about Starcraft players and poker in that interview.
FBH #1!
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2107 Posts
December 14 2024 17:55 GMT
#18
I didn't expect this but it does make me happy to see and hear from him. Old foreigner legend, perhaps the first
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
December 14 2024 18:21 GMT
#19
On December 14 2024 17:04 Rei_Rice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2024 06:30 EndingLife wrote:
This is one of the best foreigner Brood War interviews ever. More of these interviews would be awesome.
[GG99]Slayer, Elky, Nazgul, Ret, Assem, Idra, etc. Basically every foreigner who ever went to Korea to compete.


Would be great!



Rekrul...... :D
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
December 14 2024 18:22 GMT
#20
And would really love to hear from Nazgul and Elky, Elky was such an iconic pro, the sun glasses are OP
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
December 14 2024 20:54 GMT
#21
Cool interview, was nice listening to the guy. Legend.
Roqu
Profile Joined December 2004
United States26 Posts
December 15 2024 01:26 GMT
#22
This guy made carriers behind tanks in a FFA, so BM
:O :O :O
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5623 Posts
December 15 2024 11:30 GMT
#23
On December 14 2024 06:30 EndingLife wrote:
[GG99]Slayer

Would love to see this subtitled:

don't wall off against random
raidern_br
Profile Joined November 2002
Brazil613 Posts
December 15 2024 12:29 GMT
#24
hah i still have old memories of a 12-13yo me at the kali server asking him to play me 1v1. he obv said no xD. that was about 98-99.
Gogogo
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19359 Posts
December 15 2024 23:04 GMT
#25
Fantastic interview, thank you. I really enjoyed hearing about his childhood as an athlete.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5623 Posts
December 17 2024 11:52 GMT
#26
Interesting to see this after:

don't wall off against random
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
December 20 2024 14:37 GMT
#27
He is so likeable. He's one of those guys whom always struck me one of the most normie / balanced successful gamers I've ever seen. There's a few from that era that always struck me as that way. Without getting into specific negative stereotypes, I'll just say thay most sweaty gamers just have a vibe about them that they're gamers (I know I carry many of thise traits). But this guy never struck me as having some of those somewhat negative personality traits, even when he was sweating out games back in the day.
Freezer_au
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Australia1461 Posts
January 29 2025 21:17 GMT
#28
This brought back so many awesome memories <3
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5015 Posts
February 06 2025 02:26 GMT
#29
Sweet!!!

Old school BW !!!!! My love and the reason I have been here since the beginning ....this account since 2002!




One of the first Americans to go to Korea as far as I know was... SuperCondumUser. If my old butt remembers correctly he got in trouble for stealing(computer stuff) and was deported ... Last I had heard he was in prison on drug and weapons charges ...
He is from the same state as me
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Balloon-Man-FuDD/237447769616965?ref=hl
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10322 Posts
February 06 2025 06:35 GMT
#30
On February 06 2025 11:26 FuDDx wrote:
Sweet!!!

Old school BW !!!!! My love and the reason I have been here since the beginning ....this account since 2002!




One of the first Americans to go to Korea as far as I know was... SuperCondumUser. If my old butt remembers correctly he got in trouble for stealing(computer stuff) and was deported ... Last I had heard he was in prison on drug and weapons charges ...
He is from the same state as me

Sounds like the supercow story if I'm not mistaken? I feel like "cow" was definitely part of his name. Didn't know the SuperCondomUser pseudonym but if it's the guy who ended up coaching tennis in Saudi Arabia or something then I think it's the same one.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51602 Posts
February 06 2025 09:25 GMT
#31
suncow and supercondomuser are different people. suncow was a polish guy who went to korea and tried to leech off draco/rekrul.
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Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States601 Posts
October 16 2025 18:14 GMT
#32
look at grrr doing what tasteless and artosis failred to do.... learn korean.
세 가지 제어
Ze'ev
Profile Joined May 2025
159 Posts
October 16 2025 19:57 GMT
#33
grrr was extremely influential for protoss. hes essentially the grandfather of every single protoss build used today. he won an osl hungover (or mildly drunk? i cant recall the story). He was essentially the best player in the world until boxer showed up, but far less consistent as the scene was still amateurish, not a lot of money, and grrr was a kid having fun in a new country. If he had been dedicated and understood the amount of money he could've made, his career wouldve more accurately reflected his skills, abilities, and explain why he is so highly respected in korea. You have players like garimto who won two OSL's, but they didnt actually contribute much to the protoss meta: Grrrr set the stage for everything after him.
FinalGame
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada23 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-17 04:32:28
October 17 2025 04:31 GMT
#34
Man I remember when I first found out about progamers and the competitive scene from sclegacy waaaay back when. Recall sending an email to Grrrr wishing him luck during one of the early WCG years (If I remember right they had players emails listed alongside bracket...or something)

Never heard anything back but I thought it was super cool regardless when I was like 12 or 13 ^^;
Stuff goes here! Who would've thought!
Orite
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany143 Posts
October 17 2025 12:02 GMT
#35
Very cool channel! Thanks for the sharing.
Swarm since 2004 • www.redclan.de • ㅈㅈ
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