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$15,000 Master's Coliseum #8 - (Dec 14-Jan 19)

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-09 07:38:53
December 06 2024 23:36 GMT
#1
Master's Coliseum #8


SCBOY is bringing the SC2 community another Masters Coliseum competition! The $15,000 event will be held from December 14 to January 19, while the qualifiers will be take place from December 5th to December 8 (currently being held).

The main event will consist of a 16-player group stage (four round-robin groups), followed by by an 8-player double elimination bracket.

Invited Players (8): herO, MaxPax, Clem, Maru, Oliveira, Reynor, Serral, SHIN

Players from qualifiers (8): Lancer (aka Cyan), Astrea, Spirit, Zoun, Cure, GuMiho, SKillous, Rogue


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luxon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States117 Posts
December 06 2024 23:42 GMT
#2
Assuming the remaining 5 are: Rogue, Trap, every terran including Reynors dad
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
December 07 2024 02:37 GMT
#3
Sick city!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 07 2024 09:23 GMT
#4
Curious as to where Dark is.

Would have thought he'd be invited and he didn't play the first qualifier, but he did play the latest KSL.
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1221 Posts
December 07 2024 13:01 GMT
#5
On December 07 2024 18:23 Asha wrote:
Curious as to where Dark is.

Would have thought he'd be invited and he didn't play the first qualifier, but he did play the latest KSL.

Well, his military service is coming up soon, so maybe he doesn't want to commit to a long event (MC8 is running most of January)
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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
December 07 2024 13:37 GMT
#6
I see that Bunny showed up for the qualifier today, missed the games unfortunately but he beat Trap in his first competitive match in 5 months so not bad at all!
bulldozer06701
Profile Joined July 2019
171 Posts
December 08 2024 11:44 GMT
#7
So this being online, MaxPax might take it
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
542 Posts
December 08 2024 19:02 GMT
#8
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it

If Clem takes out Serral, then MaxPax could win. Can’t see him winning against Serral.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33712 Posts
December 09 2024 04:12 GMT
#9
Great to see Rogue qualify; unfortunate to see Dark unable to participate(?). I guess you can't have it all
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lokol4890
Profile Joined May 2023
114 Posts
December 09 2024 23:53 GMT
#10
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it


Last year was online too fyi
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7439 Posts
December 10 2024 13:53 GMT
#11
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it


This is Serrals money. If he can fix his ZvClem
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-10 14:48:45
December 10 2024 14:48 GMT
#12
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it

Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12610 Posts
December 10 2024 23:37 GMT
#13
On December 10 2024 23:48 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it

Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?


Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
December 10 2024 23:48 GMT
#14
On December 11 2024 08:37 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2024 23:48 Durnuu wrote:
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it

Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?


Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch

He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.

He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12610 Posts
December 11 2024 00:05 GMT
#15
On December 11 2024 08:48 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2024 08:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 10 2024 23:48 Durnuu wrote:
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it

Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?


Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch

He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.

He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.


This is not entirely true but more importantly this is not an argument to side with the idea that it's clownish to think he has a good chance of winning, lol. He was second in the last two regionals with worse balance for his race. Obviously he isn't 50% to win any given tournament, this isn't zerg 2019 so nobody is, but he's one of the favourites for sure.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
December 11 2024 00:13 GMT
#16
On December 11 2024 09:05 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2024 08:48 WombaT wrote:
On December 11 2024 08:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 10 2024 23:48 Durnuu wrote:
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it

Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?


Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch

He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.

He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.


This is not entirely true but more importantly this is not an argument to side with the idea that it's clownish to think he has a good chance of winning, lol. He was second in the last two regionals with worse balance for his race. Obviously he isn't 50% to win any given tournament, this isn't zerg 2019 so nobody is, but he's one of the favourites for sure.

I can’t recall if Serral missed both, but he definitely missed one regional in that span.

Kinda helps to not have the ZvP GOAT, indeed IMO the strongest individual matchup in SC2 history not there.

Look he’s talented, but he’s not better than Clem was about 3/4 years ago. Clem stepped up and actually started winning tournaments that featured equally good or better competitors, taking things seriously.

MaxPax has never done it, until he does he won’t be a truly elite player no matter how skilled he is.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12610 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-11 00:44:44
December 11 2024 00:25 GMT
#17
On December 11 2024 09:13 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2024 09:05 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 11 2024 08:48 WombaT wrote:
On December 11 2024 08:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 10 2024 23:48 Durnuu wrote:
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it

Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?


Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch

He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.

He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.


This is not entirely true but more importantly this is not an argument to side with the idea that it's clownish to think he has a good chance of winning, lol. He was second in the last two regionals with worse balance for his race. Obviously he isn't 50% to win any given tournament, this isn't zerg 2019 so nobody is, but he's one of the favourites for sure.

I can’t recall if Serral missed both, but he definitely missed one regional in that span.

Kinda helps to not have the ZvP GOAT, indeed IMO the strongest individual matchup in SC2 history not there.

Look he’s talented, but he’s not better than Clem was about 3/4 years ago. Clem stepped up and actually started winning tournaments that featured equally good or better competitors, taking things seriously.

MaxPax has never done it, until he does he won’t be a truly elite player no matter how skilled he is.


It isn't a requirement to play Serral to win a tournament, Serral can easily lose to Clem and then you don't have to face him. Even if Serral still has the edge on him, that edge can't be more than like, 70-75%. Things that happen 25-30% happen all the time.

You're making an argument that's sound but the position that you're defending is, like, he's not a favourite to win. Yeah of course he isn't. If you think anyone is a favourite to win, I'll gladly take the opposition.

Edit: hey I'll pull some numbers, why not I'm going like, Clem 28%, Serral 25%, herO 19%, Maxpax 16%, Maru 8%, Reynor 3%, someone else 1%. (had to amend this because I forgot herO was playing)
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
December 11 2024 00:40 GMT
#18
On December 11 2024 09:25 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2024 09:13 WombaT wrote:
On December 11 2024 09:05 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 11 2024 08:48 WombaT wrote:
On December 11 2024 08:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 10 2024 23:48 Durnuu wrote:
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote:
So this being online, MaxPax might take it

Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?


Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch

He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.

He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.


This is not entirely true but more importantly this is not an argument to side with the idea that it's clownish to think he has a good chance of winning, lol. He was second in the last two regionals with worse balance for his race. Obviously he isn't 50% to win any given tournament, this isn't zerg 2019 so nobody is, but he's one of the favourites for sure.

I can’t recall if Serral missed both, but he definitely missed one regional in that span.

Kinda helps to not have the ZvP GOAT, indeed IMO the strongest individual matchup in SC2 history not there.

Look he’s talented, but he’s not better than Clem was about 3/4 years ago. Clem stepped up and actually started winning tournaments that featured equally good or better competitors, taking things seriously.

MaxPax has never done it, until he does he won’t be a truly elite player no matter how skilled he is.


It isn't a requirement to play Serral to win a tournament, Serral can easily lose to Clem and then you don't have to face him. Even if Serral still has the edge on him, that edge can't be more than like, 70-75%. Things that happen 25-30% happen all the time.

You're making an argument that's sound but the position that you're defending is, like, he's not a favourite to win. Yeah of course he isn't. If you think anyone is a favourite to win, I'll gladly take the opposition.

Edit: hey I'll pull some numbers, why not I'm going like, Clem 33%, Serral 29%, Maxpax 24%, Maru 10%, Reynor 3%, someone else 1%.

My argument is he’s not a top player until he does what other top players have done. I think he’s capable

SC’s history is littered with ladder monsters, or practice room monsters who couldn’t step up and show it at big tournaments.

Best of luck to him, as I said I think he has the ability but he’s got to do it.

herO’s got that record. Even solely post military he’s got a GSL, a Dreamhack, a GSL final and a top 4 at EWC. He’s still the guy

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12610 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-11 01:04:10
December 11 2024 00:47 GMT
#19
herO is 0-14 in matches to Maxpax since february 2024, but to be fair those were probably all matches that he didn't care about I'll put him above Maxpax because I think he has a better shot at beating Serral but he's also weaker against Clem, their chances are pretty similar imo.

One disadvantage that Maxpax has is that he could easily lose to Reynor imo, while for Clem Serral and herO I see that as less likely.
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Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1006 Posts
December 12 2024 11:19 GMT
#20
Nice groups, gonna be a fun watch
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