SCBOY is bringing the SC2 community another Masters Coliseum competition! The $15,000 event will be held from December 14 to January 19, while the qualifiers will be take place from December 5th to December 8 (currently being held).
The main event will consist of a 16-player group stage (four round-robin groups), followed by by an 8-player double elimination bracket.
I see that Bunny showed up for the qualifier today, missed the games unfortunately but he beat Trap in his first competitive match in 5 months so not bad at all!
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote: So this being online, MaxPax might take it
Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?
Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch
He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.
He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote: So this being online, MaxPax might take it
Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?
Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch
He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.
He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.
This is not entirely true but more importantly this is not an argument to side with the idea that it's clownish to think he has a good chance of winning, lol. He was second in the last two regionals with worse balance for his race. Obviously he isn't 50% to win any given tournament, this isn't zerg 2019 so nobody is, but he's one of the favourites for sure.
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote: So this being online, MaxPax might take it
Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?
Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch
He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.
He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.
This is not entirely true but more importantly this is not an argument to side with the idea that it's clownish to think he has a good chance of winning, lol. He was second in the last two regionals with worse balance for his race. Obviously he isn't 50% to win any given tournament, this isn't zerg 2019 so nobody is, but he's one of the favourites for sure.
I can’t recall if Serral missed both, but he definitely missed one regional in that span.
Kinda helps to not have the ZvP GOAT, indeed IMO the strongest individual matchup in SC2 history not there.
Look he’s talented, but he’s not better than Clem was about 3/4 years ago. Clem stepped up and actually started winning tournaments that featured equally good or better competitors, taking things seriously.
MaxPax has never done it, until he does he won’t be a truly elite player no matter how skilled he is.
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote: So this being online, MaxPax might take it
Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?
Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch
He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.
He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.
This is not entirely true but more importantly this is not an argument to side with the idea that it's clownish to think he has a good chance of winning, lol. He was second in the last two regionals with worse balance for his race. Obviously he isn't 50% to win any given tournament, this isn't zerg 2019 so nobody is, but he's one of the favourites for sure.
I can’t recall if Serral missed both, but he definitely missed one regional in that span.
Kinda helps to not have the ZvP GOAT, indeed IMO the strongest individual matchup in SC2 history not there.
Look he’s talented, but he’s not better than Clem was about 3/4 years ago. Clem stepped up and actually started winning tournaments that featured equally good or better competitors, taking things seriously.
MaxPax has never done it, until he does he won’t be a truly elite player no matter how skilled he is.
It isn't a requirement to play Serral to win a tournament, Serral can easily lose to Clem and then you don't have to face him. Even if Serral still has the edge on him, that edge can't be more than like, 70-75%. Things that happen 25-30% happen all the time.
You're making an argument that's sound but the position that you're defending is, like, he's not a favourite to win. Yeah of course he isn't. If you think anyone is a favourite to win, I'll gladly take the opposition.
Edit: hey I'll pull some numbers, why not I'm going like, Clem 28%, Serral 25%, herO 19%, Maxpax 16%, Maru 8%, Reynor 3%, someone else 1%. (had to amend this because I forgot herO was playing)
On December 08 2024 20:44 bulldozer06701 wrote: So this being online, MaxPax might take it
Just like all the other online premiers he won in his life ?
Pretty bold to someone who is 23-0 in matches since the patch
He’s never won anything meaningful. He’s clearly got talent but until he does he’s just a farmer of weeklies. Let’s be real if the likes of Serral, Maru, or any of the other players who don’t regularly partake in weeklies did, and took it seriously he’s winning a fraction of what he has in here.
He’s gotta put up, simple as. At a vaguely equivalent stage of development Clem was trading decently with Reynor and Serral and taking the odd EU regional.
This is not entirely true but more importantly this is not an argument to side with the idea that it's clownish to think he has a good chance of winning, lol. He was second in the last two regionals with worse balance for his race. Obviously he isn't 50% to win any given tournament, this isn't zerg 2019 so nobody is, but he's one of the favourites for sure.
I can’t recall if Serral missed both, but he definitely missed one regional in that span.
Kinda helps to not have the ZvP GOAT, indeed IMO the strongest individual matchup in SC2 history not there.
Look he’s talented, but he’s not better than Clem was about 3/4 years ago. Clem stepped up and actually started winning tournaments that featured equally good or better competitors, taking things seriously.
MaxPax has never done it, until he does he won’t be a truly elite player no matter how skilled he is.
It isn't a requirement to play Serral to win a tournament, Serral can easily lose to Clem and then you don't have to face him. Even if Serral still has the edge on him, that edge can't be more than like, 70-75%. Things that happen 25-30% happen all the time.
You're making an argument that's sound but the position that you're defending is, like, he's not a favourite to win. Yeah of course he isn't. If you think anyone is a favourite to win, I'll gladly take the opposition.
herO is 0-14 in matches to Maxpax since february 2024, but to be fair those were probably all matches that he didn't care about I'll put him above Maxpax because I think he has a better shot at beating Serral but he's also weaker against Clem, their chances are pretty similar imo.
One disadvantage that Maxpax has is that he could easily lose to Reynor imo, while for Clem Serral and herO I see that as less likely.
EPT
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I'm going like, Clem 28%, Serral 25%, herO 19%, Maxpax 16%, Maru 8%, Reynor 3%, someone else 1%. (had to amend this because I forgot herO was playing)
