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Serral wins EWC 2025

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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-01 05:19:33
July 31 2025 09:33 GMT
#31
The final was pretty disappointing, to put it mildly.
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RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation400 Posts
July 31 2025 10:49 GMT
#32
On July 31 2025 18:33 Simplistik wrote:
The final was pretty disappointing, to out it mildly.


It's true and wild at the same time. Because those are the two best players in the tournament. I mean bracket design makde everything right for them to face each other, but serral had an answer to everything like an overmind.
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
August 01 2025 02:54 GMT
#33
Undoubtedly the goat of SC2 - congrats to Joona. Also loved the close series he had with Reynor.

Would have liked to have seen Clem not get blanked with this title defense run.
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Sviru1
Profile Joined January 2017
30 Posts
August 02 2025 14:50 GMT
#34
I voted for Reynor to win EWC2025. Why? I think his last two weeks where he destroyed Clem etc were great. The 5th game vs Serral was hard to watch. He had this game already won and did everything he could to lose it.

Joona is the Goat of SC2 for sure and well deserved win. He thrives where other fall apart.
But for me Reynor is like this unpredictable player with super strong mentality. He can lose 2-0 and reverse sweep you on the big stage. That is crazy.

Nasigil1
Profile Joined March 2024
114 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-02 17:23:07
August 02 2025 17:22 GMT
#35
One thing Serral always impresses me is his self-restraint. He NEVER picks a bad fight. If the engagement situation is not ideal, he just would not engage at all, even if he's ahead in the game. That's why you rarely ever see him throw a game like Reynor. Reynor is always happy to pick and fight anywhere and any time, which makes his game insanely entertaining, but he would often lose the game that he should've won by running himself into bad engagements over and over. His series against Serral is the perfect example.
radracer
Profile Joined March 2020
United States73 Posts
August 03 2025 01:29 GMT
#36
Truly the GOAT of SC2's twilight
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Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
220 Posts
August 03 2025 04:29 GMT
#37
On August 03 2025 10:29 radracer wrote:
Truly the GOAT of SC2's twilight


Did you twirl your mustache villainously in the dark while exclaiming to yourself: "this will stem the tide!"
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
August 03 2025 05:26 GMT
#38
On July 31 2025 10:14 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2025 21:25 Poopi wrote:
On July 30 2025 21:18 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Very dissapointed in Maru's, Clem's, Rogue's and Reynor's performance.
Serral was fking unstoppable

For Maru and Rogue I kinda agree. But for Clem and especially Reynor, how?
Reynor barely lost 2-3 to Maru in a close and epic series, same versus Serral. He probably misplayed that engagement but that can happen when you are so eager to win.
As for Clem, apparently when he went to Korea he got destroyed by Classic in practice, and given how other terrans fare in TvP, no shame in losing to Classic.
But yeah Maru's loss was on him, he has the ability to beat Cure in TvT, that's a very disappointing performance.


Reynor did great, just too bad he faced the final boss in Ro8 and not even Ro4
But Maru would have lost to Serral anyways, but it mighta been a cool match to see with his mech (or maybe it'd be a stomp again, it's so hard to know lol)


The one game from their Kato finals last year that Maru was straight up ahead in and would almost certainly won if he wasn't already mentally done was battle mech. Then he never did it again. I'm sad we didn't get to see it here.
radracer
Profile Joined March 2020
United States73 Posts
August 03 2025 17:03 GMT
#39
On August 03 2025 13:29 Glorfindelio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2025 10:29 radracer wrote:
Truly the GOAT of SC2's twilight


Did you twirl your mustache villainously in the dark while exclaiming to yourself: "this will stem the tide!"


Not sure what you mean, he's dominating this era and is easily the best player of this era.
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
August 04 2025 14:26 GMT
#40
I'm glad classic got 2 games at least, it could've been another rogue vs classic 4-0.

I wonder had he played as amazingly as he did vs. solar just before if that could change the outcome, I think one of the problems as you get older is the ability to focus for a long time. If it were up to me the finals day would only have the 3rd place match and gf both bo9's, I can't see solar cure having the same outcome hadn't solar just lost his ticket to the gf 30min earlier..
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26202 Posts
August 04 2025 15:03 GMT
#41
On August 04 2025 23:26 ejozl wrote:
I'm glad classic got 2 games at least, it could've been another rogue vs classic 4-0.

I wonder had he played as amazingly as he did vs. solar just before if that could change the outcome, I think one of the problems as you get older is the ability to focus for a long time. If it were up to me the finals day would only have the 3rd place match and gf both bo9's, I can't see solar cure having the same outcome hadn't solar just lost his ticket to the gf 30min earlier..

Solar isn’t Serral, that’s Classic’s main problem even if he’s got an absolutely optimal schedule.

Solar is a phenomenal player, Serral is just simply better at every facet of ZvP. His early game defence is better, his midgame reads are better, and his lategame is better.

Serral is marginally better than other elite Zergs in the former, but considerably better in the latter. It’s not even a stylistic thing. It’s not like there’s some Zerg who’s notably stronger in the midgame but worse at lategame versus Serral who’s got an advantage over how Classic plays.

Serral’s just better at ZvP across the board
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TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
149 Posts
August 05 2025 01:28 GMT
#42
On August 05 2025 00:03 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2025 23:26 ejozl wrote:
I'm glad classic got 2 games at least, it could've been another rogue vs classic 4-0.

I wonder had he played as amazingly as he did vs. solar just before if that could change the outcome, I think one of the problems as you get older is the ability to focus for a long time. If it were up to me the finals day would only have the 3rd place match and gf both bo9's, I can't see solar cure having the same outcome hadn't solar just lost his ticket to the gf 30min earlier..

Solar isn’t Serral, that’s Classic’s main problem even if he’s got an absolutely optimal schedule.

Solar is a phenomenal player, Serral is just simply better at every facet of ZvP. His early game defence is better, his midgame reads are better, and his lategame is better.

Serral is marginally better than other elite Zergs in the former, but considerably better in the latter. It’s not even a stylistic thing. It’s not like there’s some Zerg who’s notably stronger in the midgame but worse at lategame versus Serral who’s got an advantage over how Classic plays.

Serral’s just better at ZvP across the board


Agree with that. Serral late game in all matchup is just a league above the rest of the Zergs

Other too Zergs looks completely lost in the late game. Their use of spell casters are awkward and not sure how to engage the opponent death ball correctly.

When other Zergs try to copy what Serral’s does they fail miserably and get stomped. in the words of lambo “baited by joona again”.
Jamesda05
Profile Joined August 2025
United States3 Posts
August 05 2025 05:04 GMT
#43
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Gantz023
Profile Joined June 2023
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-06 14:57:59
August 06 2025 01:37 GMT
#44
While we mortals are debating and making complex calculations and blah blah blah about who the real GOAT is, professional players are very clear about it and don't hesitate to say one name: Serral.

They know how difficult/almost impossible it is to maintain Serral's consistency for seven years, surviving multiple nerfs and finding ways to win tournaments. That means he didn't win because of a patch favoring Zerg.

All that remains to be said is... GG WP Serral. Congratulations on your 3rd world championship (or 4th, depending on how you look at it).
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1244 Posts
August 10 2025 22:45 GMT
#45
Apparenlty (according to Liquipedia) they already announced a huge chunk(?) of the games for 2026 and even 2027.
Which on one hand is great, they learned from this years fiasko. On the other hand...no SC2.

As I said, I assume it isn't the full-roster yet, but atleast we now we are already behind the curve while EWC '25 isn't even over...yay...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Kyle8
Profile Joined October 2024
30 Posts
August 11 2025 12:15 GMT
#46
lol saudis dump literal millions into sc2 and people wanna boycott cuz of some bs virtue signaling
Kyle8
Profile Joined October 2024
30 Posts
August 11 2025 12:21 GMT
#47
serral should have lost lategame vs classic but classic really didn't do a great job there.. if he'd just been confident in his lategame it woulda been all over baby...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26202 Posts
August 11 2025 22:47 GMT
#48
On August 11 2025 21:21 Kyle8 wrote:
serral should have lost lategame vs classic but classic really didn't do a great job there.. if he'd just been confident in his lategame it woulda been all over baby...

Classic himself said he mixed it up because he didn’t think he could win a Bo9 relying on his late game exclusively.

Classic did a great job, it’s just Serral doing Serral things.

I think it looks very different it’s Classic versus another Zerg,
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-12 06:19:16
August 12 2025 06:18 GMT
#49
On August 12 2025 07:47 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2025 21:21 Kyle8 wrote:
serral should have lost lategame vs classic but classic really didn't do a great job there.. if he'd just been confident in his lategame it woulda been all over baby...

Classic himself said he mixed it up because he didn’t think he could win a Bo9 relying on his late game exclusively.

Classic did a great job, it’s just Serral doing Serral things.

I think it looks very different it’s Classic versus another Zerg,


We already saw that in the semi when classic played against solar. Solar literally had no answer to classic

Literally like you said, just Serral doing Serral stuff. The other Zergs just don’t have the mechanics / patience / or understanding to engage a late game toss death ball
johnnyh123
Profile Joined February 2023
124 Posts
August 12 2025 06:23 GMT
#50
On August 11 2025 07:45 Balnazza wrote:
Apparenlty (according to Liquipedia) they already announced a huge chunk(?) of the games for 2026 and even 2027.
Which on one hand is great, they learned from this years fiasko. On the other hand...no SC2.

As I said, I assume it isn't the full-roster yet, but atleast we now we are already behind the curve while EWC '25 isn't even over...yay...


Yeah, history can't predict the future, but for EWC:
- 2025: 21 different games played
- 2026: 17 different games confirmed

There are most likely a few more additions, especially if new games gain traction over the next few months.

Fingers crossed for announcing SC2 soon!

Without EWC 2026, I believe most of full-time progamers will quit. EWC is literally the only thing keeping the pro scene alive and kicking, without it, it will just be alive, but no kicks.
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