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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8501 Posts
August 02 2025 07:37 GMT
#47
On August 02 2025 16:28 maybe wrote:
Paralyze is in with 2-1 agains Bisu in the final

Sharp vs Scan in Group 8 finals going on!


spoilers please!

and also use this thread instead:

https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/640901-asl20-online-qualifiers-day-1

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maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
257 Posts
August 02 2025 07:42 GMT
#48
On August 02 2025 16:37 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2025 16:28 maybe wrote:
Paralyze is in with 2-1 agains Bisu in the final

Sharp vs Scan in Group 8 finals going on!


spoilers please!

and also use this thread instead:

https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/640901-asl20-online-qualifiers-day-1


Sorry didn't notice the new thread
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
August 02 2025 08:17 GMT
#49
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Hungary5221 Posts
August 02 2025 13:45 GMT
#50
On August 02 2025 05:25 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2025 02:17 PVJ wrote:
Stupid question but did Soulkey ever get a special trophy for winning 3-in-a-row or 4-in-a-row? (Or 3/4 titles in total).

I thought he had to get a golden mouse type of thing but there's no image or info on the net about this.

He got an special trophy. Not as cool as the golden mouse :D

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Wow what an awkward title. Thanks eon for posting. It is reassuring to see this as I was flabbergasted that they would forget about this achievement.

I'm looking forward to a contested 5th in a row for Soulkey and then I hope he gets something special again.
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Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
110 Posts
August 02 2025 16:17 GMT
#51
seems that rain and flash not playing this season?
Stopthevirtualaddict
Profile Joined November 2024
49 Posts
August 03 2025 11:59 GMT
#52
How comes that these old stars like effort, larva,even Rain, Soma, Flash? players like those get into ASl first try after time.

while players like the scans, and even great consistent players like action hero and queen, Stork,
Etc. need multiple tries or cant make it one season, while literally been ro 4 or winners or beeing top active, on the meta game, all the time.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3098 Posts
August 03 2025 12:40 GMT
#53
On August 03 2025 20:59 Stopthevirtualaddict wrote:
How comes that these old stars like effort, larva,even Rain, Soma, Flash? players like those get into ASl first try after time.

while players like the scans, and even great consistent players like action hero and queen, Stork,
Etc. need multiple tries or cant make it one season, while literally been ro 4 or winners or beeing top active, on the meta game, all the time.

To be fair, both Larva and Effort needed to go into second day this time. So did Rain before. Soma practically took no break during his military service because he got to stay at home, so there's no form loss. Flash is Flash.

But yeah, the gap between ex-Kespa pros and amateurs is enormous. It seems like if you weren't trained in pro houses during Kespa, you can never make up that gap on your own.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-03 13:19:17
August 03 2025 13:17 GMT
#54
On August 03 2025 21:40 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2025 20:59 Stopthevirtualaddict wrote:
How comes that these old stars like effort, larva,even Rain, Soma, Flash? players like those get into ASl first try after time.

while players like the scans, and even great consistent players like action hero and queen, Stork,
Etc. need multiple tries or cant make it one season, while literally been ro 4 or winners or beeing top active, on the meta game, all the time.

To be fair, both Larva and Effort needed to go into second day this time. So did Rain before. Soma practically took no break during his military service because he got to stay at home, so there's no form loss. Flash is Flash.

But yeah, the gap between ex-Kespa pros and amateurs is enormous. It seems like if you weren't trained in pro houses during Kespa, you can never make up that gap on your own.


Not true that you cant make it, but the chanes are definitely lower. SoMa iirc was not on a team. He had a license but didnt make it onto a team. Scan has no license and comes from a pure amateur background. Brain made it in and had license as toss and terran, but no team. ZeloT had no license and no team. Ssinz had no license and no team. Same for Ivory and Ddasik, Byul and Tinkle. Taenggu also no license and no team. The current era lacks talent cultivation. Aspiring players have to train themselves to reach higher levels, much harder than someone showing you how to do it step by step.
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Stopthevirtualaddict
Profile Joined November 2024
49 Posts
August 03 2025 17:21 GMT
#55
On August 03 2025 22:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2025 21:40 TMNT wrote:
On August 03 2025 20:59 Stopthevirtualaddict wrote:
How comes that these old stars like effort, larva,even Rain, Soma, Flash? players like those get into ASl first try after time.

while players like the scans, and even great consistent players like action hero and queen, Stork,
Etc. need multiple tries or cant make it one season, while literally been ro 4 or winners or beeing top active, on the meta game, all the time.

To be fair, both Larva and Effort needed to go into second day this time. So did Rain before. Soma practically took no break during his military service because he got to stay at home, so there's no form loss. Flash is Flash.

But yeah, the gap between ex-Kespa pros and amateurs is enormous. It seems like if you weren't trained in pro houses during Kespa, you can never make up that gap on your own.


Not true that you cant make it, but the chanes are definitely lower. SoMa iirc was not on a team. He had a license but didnt make it onto a team. Scan has no license and comes from a pure amateur background. Brain made it in and had license as toss and terran, but no team. ZeloT had no license and no team. Ssinz had no license and no team. Same for Ivory and Ddasik, Byul and Tinkle. Taenggu also no license and no team. The current era lacks talent cultivation. Aspiring players have to train themselves to reach higher levels, much harder than someone showing you how to do it step by step.



But i remember seeing some match from scan from the kespa era…

I think zelot and soma may be the most impressive ones. Somas case seems kind of special…

And zelot is a but like the average joe case methode.,.

RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1054 Posts
August 03 2025 18:10 GMT
#56
On August 04 2025 02:21 Stopthevirtualaddict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2025 22:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On August 03 2025 21:40 TMNT wrote:
On August 03 2025 20:59 Stopthevirtualaddict wrote:
How comes that these old stars like effort, larva,even Rain, Soma, Flash? players like those get into ASl first try after time.

while players like the scans, and even great consistent players like action hero and queen, Stork,
Etc. need multiple tries or cant make it one season, while literally been ro 4 or winners or beeing top active, on the meta game, all the time.

To be fair, both Larva and Effort needed to go into second day this time. So did Rain before. Soma practically took no break during his military service because he got to stay at home, so there's no form loss. Flash is Flash.

But yeah, the gap between ex-Kespa pros and amateurs is enormous. It seems like if you weren't trained in pro houses during Kespa, you can never make up that gap on your own.


Not true that you cant make it, but the chanes are definitely lower. SoMa iirc was not on a team. He had a license but didnt make it onto a team. Scan has no license and comes from a pure amateur background. Brain made it in and had license as toss and terran, but no team. ZeloT had no license and no team. Ssinz had no license and no team. Same for Ivory and Ddasik, Byul and Tinkle. Taenggu also no license and no team. The current era lacks talent cultivation. Aspiring players have to train themselves to reach higher levels, much harder than someone showing you how to do it step by step.



But i remember seeing some match from scan from the kespa era…

I think zelot and soma may be the most impressive ones. Somas case seems kind of special…

And zelot is a but like the average joe case methode.,.


Scan never played Kespa. He was in America at that time.
JDON MY SOUL!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51505 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-05 09:28:09
August 05 2025 09:26 GMT
#57
On August 03 2025 22:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2025 21:40 TMNT wrote:
On August 03 2025 20:59 Stopthevirtualaddict wrote:
How comes that these old stars like effort, larva,even Rain, Soma, Flash? players like those get into ASl first try after time.

while players like the scans, and even great consistent players like action hero and queen, Stork,
Etc. need multiple tries or cant make it one season, while literally been ro 4 or winners or beeing top active, on the meta game, all the time.

To be fair, both Larva and Effort needed to go into second day this time. So did Rain before. Soma practically took no break during his military service because he got to stay at home, so there's no form loss. Flash is Flash.

But yeah, the gap between ex-Kespa pros and amateurs is enormous. It seems like if you weren't trained in pro houses during Kespa, you can never make up that gap on your own.


Not true that you cant make it, but the chanes are definitely lower. SoMa iirc was not on a team. He had a license but didnt make it onto a team. Scan has no license and comes from a pure amateur background. Brain made it in and had license as toss and terran, but no team. ZeloT had no license and no team. Ssinz had no license and no team. Same for Ivory and Ddasik, Byul and Tinkle. Taenggu also no license and no team. The current era lacks talent cultivation. Aspiring players have to train themselves to reach higher levels, much harder than someone showing you how to do it step by step.


soma - trainee with stx soul, didn't become pro in order to pursue higher education
scan - trainee with sk telecom, didn't become pro because he moved to the us
brain - trainee with cj entus, didn't become pro because his parents didn't want him to become one

so while you can say that a lot of these players weren't "pro", they were talented enough to have the eyes of the kespa teams on them.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8501 Posts
August 05 2025 09:44 GMT
#58
On August 05 2025 18:26 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2025 22:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On August 03 2025 21:40 TMNT wrote:
On August 03 2025 20:59 Stopthevirtualaddict wrote:
How comes that these old stars like effort, larva,even Rain, Soma, Flash? players like those get into ASl first try after time.

while players like the scans, and even great consistent players like action hero and queen, Stork,
Etc. need multiple tries or cant make it one season, while literally been ro 4 or winners or beeing top active, on the meta game, all the time.

To be fair, both Larva and Effort needed to go into second day this time. So did Rain before. Soma practically took no break during his military service because he got to stay at home, so there's no form loss. Flash is Flash.

But yeah, the gap between ex-Kespa pros and amateurs is enormous. It seems like if you weren't trained in pro houses during Kespa, you can never make up that gap on your own.


Not true that you cant make it, but the chanes are definitely lower. SoMa iirc was not on a team. He had a license but didnt make it onto a team. Scan has no license and comes from a pure amateur background. Brain made it in and had license as toss and terran, but no team. ZeloT had no license and no team. Ssinz had no license and no team. Same for Ivory and Ddasik, Byul and Tinkle. Taenggu also no license and no team. The current era lacks talent cultivation. Aspiring players have to train themselves to reach higher levels, much harder than someone showing you how to do it step by step.


soma - trainee with stx soul, didn't become pro in order to pursue higher education
scan - trainee with sk telecom, didn't become pro because he moved to the us
brain - trainee with cj entus, didn't become pro because his parents didn't want him to become one

so while you can say that a lot of these players weren't "pro", they were talented enough to have the eyes of the kespa teams on them.

At least Brain found his path , being the best fastest map player ever !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6790 Posts
August 05 2025 10:30 GMT
#59
On August 05 2025 18:26 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2025 22:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On August 03 2025 21:40 TMNT wrote:
On August 03 2025 20:59 Stopthevirtualaddict wrote:
How comes that these old stars like effort, larva,even Rain, Soma, Flash? players like those get into ASl first try after time.

while players like the scans, and even great consistent players like action hero and queen, Stork,
Etc. need multiple tries or cant make it one season, while literally been ro 4 or winners or beeing top active, on the meta game, all the time.

To be fair, both Larva and Effort needed to go into second day this time. So did Rain before. Soma practically took no break during his military service because he got to stay at home, so there's no form loss. Flash is Flash.

But yeah, the gap between ex-Kespa pros and amateurs is enormous. It seems like if you weren't trained in pro houses during Kespa, you can never make up that gap on your own.


Not true that you cant make it, but the chanes are definitely lower. SoMa iirc was not on a team. He had a license but didnt make it onto a team. Scan has no license and comes from a pure amateur background. Brain made it in and had license as toss and terran, but no team. ZeloT had no license and no team. Ssinz had no license and no team. Same for Ivory and Ddasik, Byul and Tinkle. Taenggu also no license and no team. The current era lacks talent cultivation. Aspiring players have to train themselves to reach higher levels, much harder than someone showing you how to do it step by step.


soma - trainee with stx soul, didn't become pro in order to pursue higher education
scan - trainee with sk telecom, didn't become pro because he moved to the us
brain - trainee with cj entus, didn't become pro because his parents didn't want him to become one

so while you can say that a lot of these players weren't "pro", they were talented enough to have the eyes of the kespa teams on them.

Wasnt Soma a practice partner of Cj ? I have seen pictures of him with the CJ t-shirt etc. And he always been friend with the CJ squad like Mong. Effort. Movie Snow etc.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
August 06 2025 17:29 GMT
#60
wow lol larva is back
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8147 Posts
August 06 2025 20:01 GMT
#61
Soma definitely seems to be a special case of being the ONLY non-kespa pro to make the Ro8 in ASL and have any significant (being in ~top 20 players overall) success in this era as far as I can tell. I think scan and zelot are the only other non-kespa pros that have made Ro16 before?
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1054 Posts
August 06 2025 20:08 GMT
#62
On August 07 2025 05:01 Ideas wrote:
Soma definitely seems to be a special case of being the ONLY non-kespa pro to make the Ro8 in ASL and have any significant (being in ~top 20 players overall) success in this era as far as I can tell. I think scan and zelot are the only other non-kespa pros that have made Ro16 before?

Brain got into Ro16. He beat Soulkey but lost to Action in Ro16.
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3098 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-06 20:25:32
August 06 2025 20:24 GMT
#63
Brain's run in ASL9 is the most impressive out of all the "amateurs" in ASL history (excluding Soma). He actually topped his group in Ro24, beating tough opponents like Mind and Light. Even beat Soulkey in Ro16 and no shame in getting knocked out by Action. He was also invited to Major Proleague a lot at the time that's how the other pros rated him. Who knows what could have become had he stuck around since ? My bet is he couldn't do worse than Shuttle and Stork.
Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
110 Posts
August 08 2025 01:39 GMT
#64
RO24 groups, it starts on 18th August

https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/afstar1/post/168094935

RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1054 Posts
August 13 2025 11:36 GMT
#65
On August 05 2025 18:26 GTR wrote:
soma - trainee with stx soul, didn't become pro in order to pursue higher education
scan - trainee with sk telecom, didn't become pro because he moved to the us
brain - trainee with cj entus, didn't become pro because his parents didn't want him to become one

so while you can say that a lot of these players weren't "pro", they were talented enough to have the eyes of the kespa teams on them.


Scan was in fact not a trainee with sk telecom.
Source: Scan
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
August 16 2025 11:11 GMT
#66
On August 07 2025 05:24 TMNT wrote:
Brain's run in ASL9 is the most impressive out of all the "amateurs" in ASL history (excluding Soma). He actually topped his group in Ro24, beating tough opponents like Mind and Light. Even beat Soulkey in Ro16 and no shame in getting knocked out by Action. He was also invited to Major Proleague a lot at the time that's how the other pros rated him. Who knows what could have become had he stuck around since ? My bet is he couldn't do worse than Shuttle and Stork.

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