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United Kingdom38257 Posts
On December 28 2024 00:08 Kreuger wrote:Havent watched the games, suprised by lancers showing against maru. Anyone that saw that could tell what happended? Cheese or standard? Makes tomorrow real spicey 
Standard. Got away with being pretty greedy and Maru's tank push timings didn't feel the sharpest. Good use of zealot warp ins across the map to basically force the aggression to be an all in (hero did the same vs Gumiho too).
Gumiho rolling over Maru in a mech battle and a one base all in so Maru's basically out.
Speculation of Maru winding it down (or at least taking some real time off waiting for next year to firm up) getting a bit more ammo I'd say.
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Maru bombing in his usual way. Classic
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United States33712 Posts
Damn that's quite the disaster from Maru. Do we just count this as the random first round elimination that happens every 4-5 GSL seasons? 
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On December 23 2024 14:18 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2024 07:59 FataLe wrote:
Those decisions from Rogue in his games vs Reynor were not befitting a player of his calibre. Strange series. Hes already eliminated and could only try to get 3rd place in the group, I am not shocked that he just tried to end the game quickly.
That's one way to look at it. Another might be you'd try to save face against someone else's off race. I'm not sure you can be confident either way.
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United States33712 Posts
Yo what's up with Oliveira?
Playing solely all-ins for like 10 TvP games in a row (since like late December), and now off-racing PvT against Spirit?
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My memory is that he had good TvT too, so that makes even less sense
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Well, to be fair I can see a logic where that makes sense long term, if you consider TvP and PvT to be the same match-up, you're only practicing 2 match-ups instead of 3 and you're practicing one of them very in-depth. I don't know that it's possible to say that TvP and PvT are the same match-up, and even if you think that, probably wouldn't play it at the start of the transition in an elimination game in a group where you have a good chance of qualifying ^^'
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United States33712 Posts
Is it just me or is Zoun microing way better than he used to?
Did he go to the military and get new hands?
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United Kingdom38257 Posts
On January 04 2025 21:51 Waxangel wrote:
Yo what's up with Oliveira?
Playing solely all-ins for like 10 TvP games in a row (since like late December), and now off-racing PvT against Spirit?
I think most pro Terrans just feel that PvT is not that hard from the Toss side, it doesn't take too long to learn the mechanics to an appropriate level when you know it from the Terran side and it's a more fun way of playing and practicing than grinding TvT. Clem's already demonstrated it can work against strong fields and he's only just started taking it seriously in tournament settings.
Looking forward to seeing how Zoun gets on vs Spirit and Oli tomorrow.
Spirit looks like continuing the fine form he's been in since HSC.
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I am now waiting fot terrans to practise PvP to force clem into deciding between PvP or tvt 
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I understand Clem playing PvT against Korean T that have his number, but Clem rarely loses TvT to Spirit. Feels like an unecessary risk, now Clem could be eliminated...
Maybe Clem get overconfident, or maybe all the PvT means his TvT is now very rusty.
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Okay now Oliveira playing PvP against Zoun feels straight up unfair to Spirit
(context: Liquipedia was saying Spirit wouldn't advance if Zoun wins when I said that ^^' )
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Clem not getting through because Oli decided to Play toss is kinda ironic.
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Russian Federation31 Posts
The rules on Liquipedia were changed in live so Clem is out.
Terrans playing as protoss were eliminated. There's some logic
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Doesn't sit right with me I guess. It reads like Oliveira got mad that he didn't get to TvT Clem and so he sacrificed himself to make the group stupid.
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Well, feels a little like the Karmic Gods enacted their retribution...
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On January 05 2025 23:17 Nebuchad wrote:
Doesn't sit right with me I guess. It reads like Oliveira got mad that he didn't get to TvT Clem and so he sacrificed himself to make the group stupid.
Clem should Just have won his pvt vs Spirit, maybe Oli felt a better Chance vs zoun in PvP (and tbf He went 1:2).
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On January 05 2025 23:20 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2025 23:17 Nebuchad wrote:
Doesn't sit right with me I guess. It reads like Oliveira got mad that he didn't get to TvT Clem and so he sacrificed himself to make the group stupid. Clem should Just have won his pvt vs Spirit, maybe Oli felt a better Chance vs zoun in PvP (and tbf He went 1:2).
If I could believe that it would be fine but there's no shot Oli thinks his PvP is better than his TvP. Clearly he was making some kind of statement
Was his PvT decent yesterday?
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On January 05 2025 23:17 Nebuchad wrote:
Doesn't sit right with me I guess. It reads like Oliveira got mad that he didn't get to TvT Clem and so he sacrificed himself to make the group stupid.
He absolutely shouldn't have lost almost all his disruptors on a bad rallypointing
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Northern Ireland27477 Posts
On January 05 2025 23:18 Glorfindelio wrote:
Well, feels a little like the Karmic Gods enacted their retribution...
Retribution for legit off-racing? If Clem was pulling a fast one or dicking around perhaps the Lords of Karma might have reason to but he’s been straight-up playing PvT for like a month now.
Fair play to Spirit! Clem’s taken out Koreans like Cure recently who I’d consider superior TvPers, so good result from him.
Not to moan about any player in particular, I think GSL group format works much better than Round Robin if it’s a group of 4. Bigger groups RR can work well, but I think you’ve a dual problem of too few matches with single sets being too important in a tie break, as well as an eliminated player with nothing but pride to play for influencing who progresses
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