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rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
April 23 2013 04:12 GMT
#261
On April 23 2013 13:09 Ingenero wrote:
Jeez, everyone just needs to chill out. Yes MLG messed up, but at least I wasn't put to sleep by how horribly boring the production was, like in the WCS Europe qualifiers. Just because the NASL crew got their panties in a bunch because they weren't invited to the party doesn't mean everyone has to go crying to their mommy. This entire thing has been blown way out of proportion, but I guess that's what I should come to expect from the Starcraft community nowadays.

WCS Europe was MUCH MUCH better than WCS AM. We saw innovative play xD.
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TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
April 23 2013 04:19 GMT
#262
On April 23 2013 13:09 Ingenero wrote:
Jeez, everyone just needs to chill out. Yes MLG messed up, but at least I wasn't put to sleep by how horribly boring the production was, like in the WCS Europe qualifiers. Just because the NASL crew got their panties in a bunch because they weren't invited to the party doesn't mean everyone has to go crying to their mommy. This entire thing has been blown way out of proportion, but I guess that's what I should come to expect from the Starcraft community nowadays.


This is a pretty big deal for a lot of people, many of these people enter tournaments as their livelihood. Being denied out of Challenger league means it could take 2-3 seasons before you even make it to Premiere league and stand a chance at making real money.
bxc
Profile Joined July 2011
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 04:37:52
April 23 2013 04:30 GMT
#263
On April 23 2013 13:09 Ingenero wrote:
Jeez, everyone just needs to chill out. Yes MLG messed up, but at least I wasn't put to sleep by how horribly boring the production was, like in the WCS Europe qualifiers.

I'd say the production value was very unprofessional considering that much of the tournament was poorly organized before competition even began.

On April 23 2013 13:09 Ingenero wrote:
Just because the NASL crew got their panties in a bunch because they weren't invited to the party doesn't mean everyone has to go crying to their mommy.

I'm about 100% confident that people are not complaining because some casters stated their opinion. I think people are upset in general because professional gamers were essentially beat out by diamond players and hackers.

On April 23 2013 13:09 Ingenero wrote:
This entire thing has been blown way out of proportion, but I guess that's what I should come to expect from the Starcraft community nowadays.

If I lost a few months of potential success at my job because of administrative issues, cheaters, and people clearly less qualified than me, I'd admittedly be extremely upset--especially considering I put my life into it. I don't think any of the reactions from people here are blown out of proportion at all. In fact, I think this type of integrity and honesty from the community is very much what eSports (and any sport or profession) needs in general.

EDIT: With regards to the "apology", I agree with most people. The apology and addressing future WCS America operations is not really improving the current situation. In fact, helping the situation would've been to address these issues prior to the WCS NA Qualifiers. Indicating that Blizzard has a short timeline essentially means you have a goal to hit. And clearly, the goal was hit, just at the expense of the professional players and also the community. Well done, MLG--at least you did things on time, and thanks for sharing the results that we all knew already.
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
April 23 2013 04:35 GMT
#264
Very well written and sincere apology, hope there is follow up though...
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 23 2013 04:39 GMT
#265
On April 23 2013 13:35 lisward wrote:
Very well written and sincere apology, hope there is follow up though...

Of course not, it's MLG. They just admit to some mistakes and forget about the others but fix nothing...consistently. And if you think that is sincere, you haven't followed Sundance much.
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 23 2013 04:44 GMT
#266
On April 23 2013 13:35 lisward wrote:
Very well written and sincere apology, hope there is follow up though...


really? feels like a template to me...
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
sinojunji
Profile Joined February 2012
China1 Post
April 23 2013 04:49 GMT
#267
unbelievable MLG apologize to audience and players. And they only broadcasted one match of Chinese player.But 3 players entered the final round. Can't imagine how mlg broadcaster thought
Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
April 23 2013 04:54 GMT
#268
On April 23 2013 07:08 Talack wrote:
Apologies are good and all, what is being done to fix this situation now?


Nothing. But that's not the point. This is nothing more than a situation that MLG just has to learn from now. Nothing more to it than that.
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Bizeheryer
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany307 Posts
April 23 2013 04:56 GMT
#269
Blizzard should fire MLG, put NASL in charge.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 23 2013 04:57 GMT
#270
Blizzard should have just use IPL to organize this...
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 05:08:08
April 23 2013 05:06 GMT
#271
On April 23 2013 13:35 lisward wrote:
Very well written and sincere apology, hope there is follow up though...


It's well written all right, since a lot of people seem to buy it, but how do you know it's sincere?

I mean, I'm sure he sincerely wishes his employees' and his fuck-ups hadn't become so widely known, but what makes you think he'll do anything to fix things not only for next time, but for every single upcoming tournament his company organizes?

It's not like MLG is new at organizing tournaments. And it's not like it was impossible to do better for the first WCS, since WCS Europe went much better. If MLG didn't make an effort this time despite their vast experience, why would they make one next time, and all the times after that, assuming Blizzard has a binding contract with them for WCS and therefore they're not really afraid of losing viewers?



illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
April 23 2013 05:09 GMT
#272
pointless apology and no action. Not satisfied at all.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
April 23 2013 05:10 GMT
#273
Looks like a nice,proper and polite form of apology. GL for your future
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
April 23 2013 05:14 GMT
#274
I don't understand why people are so upset with the apology. They seem to be saying that "it's just a blurb of empty words that doesn't change anything".
What else do people expect? The qualifiers are already done, there is nothing that can be done. We can only hope that MLG learns from this mistake and improves next time. The least Sundance could've done was to issue a formal apology for the fiasco, which he did.
And we all know that if he didn't issue an apology, people would be complaining that there was no apology -.-
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
April 23 2013 05:20 GMT
#275
On April 23 2013 14:14 Holdenintherye wrote:
I don't understand why people are so upset with the apology. They seem to be saying that "it's just a blurb of empty words that doesn't change anything".
What else do people expect? The qualifiers are already done, there is nothing that can be done. We can only hope that MLG learns from this mistake and improves next time. The least Sundance could've done was to issue a formal apology for the fiasco, which he did.
And we all know that if he didn't issue an apology, people would be complaining that there was no apology -.-

people expect action to be taken. crazy, huh?
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
April 23 2013 05:20 GMT
#276
On April 23 2013 14:14 Holdenintherye wrote:
I don't understand why people are so upset with the apology. They seem to be saying that "it's just a blurb of empty words that doesn't change anything".
What else do people expect? The qualifiers are already done, there is nothing that can be done. We can only hope that MLG learns from this mistake and improves next time. The least Sundance could've done was to issue a formal apology for the fiasco, which he did.
And we all know that if he didn't issue an apology, people would be complaining that there was no apology -.-

That MLG would show us how they plan to fix the issues (even if not for this than for the next qualifier)?

They even want community to hand them solutions on the silver plater.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
April 23 2013 05:21 GMT
#277
Those were nice words, but they don't solve any of the problems
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 23 2013 05:22 GMT
#278
On April 23 2013 07:10 Linwelin wrote:
Good apology but what happens with all the Chinese players drama?


jaeh the commm thing is the way more importent stuff here
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Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
April 23 2013 05:26 GMT
#279
I kinda expected to read something about Comm.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
April 23 2013 05:27 GMT
#280
Lol, empty words, GG
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