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StarcraftHistorian
United States229 Posts
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TeamMamba
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4448 Posts
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States727 Posts
On July 22 2026 14:56 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: The game is so old they should be doing only very minor changes, not reducing CC cost from 400 to 300 and changing starter worker counts. or no patch at all, let map maker balance the match ups? like brood war....... honestly, War3 seems to be doing okay? I don't follow it quite close at all, but they seem to be doing better than SC2 from the outside. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1359 Posts
On July 27 2026 08:42 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote: or no patch at all, let map maker balance the match ups? like brood war....... honestly, War3 seems to be doing okay? I don't follow it quite close at all, but they seem to be doing better than SC2 from the outside. Warcraft 3 does get "regular" patches, I would say roughly one per year. And these patches do quite often shake it up relatively well. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3548 Posts
I like that they "balanced" it, after all it was a horror show for years how undeads was trounced by orcs, but at the same time, I get so annoyed at most changes, because it changes a game I adore. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1359 Posts
That being said: Map-balance in WC3 is fundamentally different than it is in Starcraft. For one, since we were so used to Lost Temple, our standards for map-balance is quite different. Is it as bad as LT? No? Then it is somewhat okay. But then there are the factors that make maps balanced or imbalanced for certain matchups. In WC3, there is far less positional fighting compared to SC2, so that is rarely a factor. It often comes down to creep-routes, map drops and expansion locations. But since UD is able to fast-expand aswell, expansions have become far less of an issue. Anyway, long story short: This is just one of those differences between WC3 and SC2 that are probably intentional. WC3 is much closer to LoL in that regard, that balancing shouldn't just happen through the map, but through actual changes. And these changes are good, they can make heroes or units more or less viable, creating a bit of rotation. As long as you don't overdo it, that is exciting and keeps the game fresh. In Starcraft however, BW is still the "goal", like this on paper perfectly balanced game that stays fresh through new maps. But I think we can agree that this has limitations aswell. No map in BW will ever make the Scout good, you can't fix that unit without a patch. Not saying it should be fixed, just explaining how both of those approaches have downsides and you just have to think about what downsides you prefer for your type of game | ||
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sofia carson
United States1 Post
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ejozl
Denmark3548 Posts
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Miragee
8707 Posts
On July 27 2026 08:42 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote: or no patch at all, let map maker balance the match ups? like brood war....... honestly, War3 seems to be doing okay? I don't follow it quite close at all, but they seem to be doing better than SC2 from the outside. I mean, everytime I look at a map contest in SC2 these days, I see the exact same maps with very slight modifications that do not change how the game plays at all. The map makers in SC2 do not seem very creative or the SC2 does not want to shake up how SC2 is played. | ||
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sidasf
108 Posts
On July 30 2026 20:41 Miragee wrote: I mean, everytime I look at a map contest in SC2 these days, I see the exact same maps with very slight modifications that do not change how the game plays at all. The map makers in SC2 do not seem very creative or the SC2 does not want to shake up how SC2 is played. You clearly do not play SC2 to say this about the last two map pools. Wow. | ||
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StarcraftHistorian
United States229 Posts
On August 06 2026 04:49 sidasf wrote: You clearly do not play SC2 to say this about the last two map pools. Wow. Truth | ||
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Miragee
8707 Posts
On August 06 2026 04:49 sidasf wrote: You clearly do not play SC2 to say this about the last two map pools. Wow. You are right, I don't. If it changed for the last two map pools, good for you. =) | ||
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