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Sundance Apology Regarding WCS Qualifiers

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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 22 2013 22:04 GMT
#1
This message was posted on MLG's site a few minutes ago, since no previously existing thread on the matter has added this I deemed it relevant to make a new post:

Dear StarCraft Fans:

I want to personally apologize to you on behalf of all of us at MLG for the mistakes we made with the WCS America Qualifier this weekend.

As many of you know, we have been working on a fast timeline with Blizzard and all of our partners to make the WCS a success and bring you as much competitive StarCraft content as possible. Unfortunately we made some errors that rippled throughout the weekend.

First, the demand to enter the WCS Qualifier was much higher than we had anticipated which resulted in many excellent players not getting a chance to enter. We featured a 512-player, double elimination, best of three bracket to maximize individual players opportunity for success, however that impacted the scale of the tournament. Additionally, we experienced strains on both our online product and administrative staffing that should have been avoided. Finally, we admittedly made a poor decision to try to hold back some results of the tournament in order to make spoiler-free viewing a possibility. We will not do that again for any online qualifier.

We have immediately opened the final bracket to the public which can be found here.

We have also created a feedback email address specifically for WCS America. Going forward, please email your feedback, suggestions and complaints to WCSAMfeedback@mlg.tv. Our staff and I will monitor every email and aim to incorporate constructive feedback into our future plans.

Again, I want to apologize personally and on behalf of everyone at MLG, to the StarCraft community, the players and to Blizzard for failing to uphold the level of tournament execution we pride ourselves on.

I assure you that we are making every effort to rectify this for all future WCS America operations.



Sincerely,

Sundance DiGiovanni
CEO
Major League Gaming



Source: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/apology-to-the-starcraft-community-how-we-will-improve/
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 22 2013 22:05 GMT
#2
Good on his part imo. Makes sense what happened as well, too many people wanted in and they didn't consider that. Let's just wait and see what happens now
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
April 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#3
Apologies are good and all, what is being done to fix this situation now?
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
April 22 2013 22:09 GMT
#4
To me hacking should be the #1 concern. You fix that, everything else seems pretty ease to fix.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:14:07
April 22 2013 22:09 GMT
#5
Well done not mentioning the issues that some of the chinese players faced.

Edit: I understand that its too late to fix the qualifiers, but how about actually making it up to some of the people that got screwed over? Add another round to the next MLG (not WCS) stop and invite all the players that were screwed over somehow to play, or at least make some kind of gesture.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
April 22 2013 22:10 GMT
#6
Good apology but what happens with all the Chinese players drama?
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Kazuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
April 22 2013 22:10 GMT
#7
They could've known how many sign-ups there would be just by looking at how it went for WCS EU.
Hollandrock
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
April 22 2013 22:10 GMT
#8
Finally.. Quite a long morning for Mr Sundance, but at least it has arrived finally.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 22 2013 22:10 GMT
#9
On April 23 2013 07:08 Talack wrote:
Apologies are good and all, what is being done to fix this situation now?

Quite frankly the qualifier is over and not much can be done now. I assume the challenger league qualifier will be run better? Only time will tell.
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Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
April 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#10
apologies are great and all, but a lot of these problems should have been anticipated before the event, and it seemed more like intentional sloppiness rather than simple mistakes

nonetheless, thank you for the apology MLG, and I hope the quality of your work improves.
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
April 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#11
I guess I didn't get as riled up as everyone else. Sure, there are some issues that need addressing, but I don't see the point in shooting guns into the air as if they had "killed esports."

I'd like to see what happens first...
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
djukger
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany68 Posts
April 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#12
word with no substance behind it and an email for feedback which will not be looked through .. GG
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#13
uh... so what will happen to the first batch? All the chinese players were ignored now just have to swallow and deal with it? Acknowledging your problem is one thing, fixing it is another story.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#14
On April 23 2013 07:08 Talack wrote:
Apologies are good and all, what is being done to fix this situation now?


This is my question. The wording implies revisions going forward but the event this weekend was a failure which wronged multiple parties and impacted many pro's shot at making it into WCS Premier this season...lockout of an entire season in the largest SC2 event in the world due to mishandling of the situation by a 3rd party...all this says is, "OK, I get it".
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
April 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#15
I'm just going to assume that the hacking, Hyun, and issues with Chinese players are all included under administrative staffing strains.
DarkblueRH
Profile Joined October 2010
United States144 Posts
April 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#16
Good on MLG for simply owning up to their mistakes and opening a place for organized feedback going forward. I do hope they actually read these E-mails. I know I'll be sending one.
RelentlessHeroes.com
bogderpirat
Profile Joined April 2011
Jordan66 Posts
April 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#17
yeah, this is not enough. i want to see someone get fired over this, the level of disappointment is just too big.
if khaldor had boobs, i'd hit him
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 22 2013 22:12 GMT
#18
On April 23 2013 07:11 NB wrote:
uh... so what will happen to the first batch? All the chinese players were ignored now just have to swallow and deal with it? Acknowledging your problem is one thing, fixing it is another story.

yup, they are royally fucked, MLG won't do shit to help those who got affected by it.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 22 2013 22:12 GMT
#19
On April 23 2013 07:11 bogderpirat wrote:
yeah, this is not enough. i want to see someone get fired over this, the level of disappointment is just too big.

Troll alert!
maoiste
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany20 Posts
April 22 2013 22:12 GMT
#20
You can stuff your sorries in a sack, mister!
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