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EkiMGnaW
Profile Joined March 2011
United States45 Posts
April 22 2013 22:22 GMT
#41
As long as the administrative issues and the hacker problem is fixed, I'm happy. I don't really have any right to complain about anything else.

The production definitely felt rushed. That said, props to the people at MLG for working hard putting it together.
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
April 22 2013 22:22 GMT
#42
On April 23 2013 07:17 Fnatic.SaSe wrote:
I did read this fast so I might have missed it but not a word about the Chinese? They are probably the hardest working players after Koreans. Let Comm play his match. Blizzard should approve this. At least the whole community probably does. The admin first asked Comm 'Did you play all the games?'. Why ask like that if they gonna DQ him anyway. He made it until 1 game away from qualifying. He obviously deserves the chance. Afaik there is always one rule saying pretty much ADMINS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT. Right about time it gets used for a player trying to live his dreams imo. Really sucks hardcore for the other Chinese players who didn't get in aswell. It's totally unacceptable they couldn't compete. They live this game. It's hard for Chinese players to travel to other countries. This was a huge oppertunity for them. And not even a word about them. Disrespectful statement imo. Can't write anymore just discusted. Sorry


this.
SaSe has great insight into the chinese scene even living there.
i don't understand how he could leave out the comm case in his apology. a "regame" of the DQ against apocalypse is not hurting anyone. why not just do it?

at least he's seeing the need for more and better admins. if he fixes it, i doubt.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 22 2013 22:23 GMT
#43
On April 23 2013 07:15 robih wrote:
reminds me of the southpark episode where BP says sorry all the time

well somebody was even faster xD


blast! I'm too late. ;;
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zumpy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
April 22 2013 22:23 GMT
#44
So COMM is still screwed over?
they should let him play his match vs. apocalypse still, that would be one step in the right direction immediately.
well won
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:23:53
April 22 2013 22:23 GMT
#45
On April 23 2013 07:22 EkiMGnaW wrote:
As long as the administrative issues and the hacker problem is fixed, I'm happy. I don't really have any right to complain about anything else.

The production definitely felt rushed. That said, props to the people at MLG for working hard putting it together.

Everything will always become better just like how starcraft tournaments advanced in production from 2010-2012
Moderatorlickypiddy
KingMel
Profile Joined July 2012
France120 Posts
April 22 2013 22:23 GMT
#46
Sorry but, what kind of problems happened, can someone sum them up to me ? I missed the qualifiers
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:25:51
April 22 2013 22:24 GMT
#47
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CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
April 22 2013 22:24 GMT
#48
hmmm well glad to see there gonna fix this
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Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
April 22 2013 22:24 GMT
#49
On April 23 2013 07:23 KingMel wrote:
Sorry but, what kind of problems happened, can someone sum them up to me ? I missed the qualifiers

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408859
Scootaloo SC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States122 Posts
April 22 2013 22:24 GMT
#50
Seems like a decent apology, and at least they're rectifying something they can rectify at this point (immediately showing the finished bracket -- seriously, 2013 on the Internet: Nothing is secret). Hopefully lessons are learned and they will be better-prepared next time.

On April 23 2013 07:11 bogderpirat wrote:
yeah, this is not enough. i want to see someone get fired over this, the level of disappointment is just too big.

Problem with eye for an eye is that eventually the world goes blind. I do not believe the infractions incurred merit anything of this nature (now as for the NASL sound guy... c: ).

Of course, this thread is going to be filled with "nice apology, but I AM NOT SATED" posts, but this is just day one, folks. They'll iron the issues out and be better moving forward.
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
April 22 2013 22:24 GMT
#51
On April 23 2013 07:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:22 EkiMGnaW wrote:
As long as the administrative issues and the hacker problem is fixed, I'm happy. I don't really have any right to complain about anything else.

The production definitely felt rushed. That said, props to the people at MLG for working hard putting it together.

Everything will always become better just like how starcraft tournaments advanced in production from 2010-2012

sorry i only see MLG going downhill from 2011-2013. though they improved 2010-2011.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:26:17
April 22 2013 22:25 GMT
#52
On April 23 2013 07:19 eddwaan wrote:
well, at least they apologized. :D

ofc they apologize, everyone apologizies in these kind of situation would be stupid if not, the problem is we want to see actions and not only words -.-
yo
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
April 22 2013 22:25 GMT
#53
On April 23 2013 07:19 Musicus wrote:
Well nothing can be changed now afterwards of course. But I think, flying some Chinese players out to the next MLG would be a really cool gesture for example. They basically had their only chance to play in a big tournement taken away and need something to look forward to again and stay motivated to keep playing.

I don't think that option is viable anymore because they wouldn't be doing anything at an MLG.
1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
April 22 2013 22:25 GMT
#54
Man looking at the bracket I can't even tell who made it. Anyone willing to make a list?
MarineKing / Jaedong / DeMusliM / SeleCT / Maru hwaiting!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
April 22 2013 22:26 GMT
#55
On April 23 2013 07:24 plasmidghost wrote:
Does anyone actually believe this? All he's doing is trying to save face for his company's many fuckups. He's not going to do anything to even try to fix the situation. I guess the players barred from entering and those that were knocked out by the hacker/Hyun are just screwed now. What a shame.


Nothing really can be done about the hacker/hyun situation, they can't redo the qualifiers lol.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:28:30
April 22 2013 22:26 GMT
#56
On April 23 2013 07:17 Fnatic.SaSe wrote:
I did read this fast so I might have missed it but not a word about the Chinese? They are probably the hardest working players after Koreans. Let Comm play his match. Blizzard should approve this. At least the whole community probably does. The admin first asked Comm 'Did you play all the games?'. Why ask like that if they gonna DQ him anyway. He made it until 1 game away from qualifying. He obviously deserves the chance. Afaik there is always one rule saying pretty much ADMINS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT. Right about time it gets used for a player trying to live his dreams imo. Really sucks hardcore for the other Chinese players who didn't get in aswell. It's totally unacceptable they couldn't compete. They live this game. It's hard for Chinese players to travel to other countries. This was a huge oppertunity for them. And not even a word about them. Disrespectful statement imo. Can't write anymore just discusted. Sorry

So true, and not even a mention of all the other players who got screwed over because of late dq's and incompetent admins. It is ridiculous that MLG can't even recognize what the community is most upset about. It is a horrendous situation that only seems to get worse. It's hard to find words that describe how one feels, but being disgusted is close.

Fucking ridiculous. Simply saying sorry would of been better, then it would of been ambiguous enough that we wouldn't know that you still don't understand what you did wrong.
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:26:59
April 22 2013 22:26 GMT
#57
No specific mention on what they're gonna do about the chinese players or the hacker[s]? Geez MLG.

At least you acknowledged it wasn't great.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
April 22 2013 22:26 GMT
#58
On April 23 2013 07:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:15 robih wrote:
reminds me of the southpark episode where BP says sorry all the time

well somebody was even faster xD


blast! I'm too late. ;;


Haha came in expecting someone mention this and was not disappointed. :D
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
April 22 2013 22:27 GMT
#59
On April 23 2013 07:25 Comogury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:19 Musicus wrote:
Well nothing can be changed now afterwards of course. But I think, flying some Chinese players out to the next MLG would be a really cool gesture for example. They basically had their only chance to play in a big tournement taken away and need something to look forward to again and stay motivated to keep playing.

I don't think that option is viable anymore because they wouldn't be doing anything at an MLG.


I'm sorry, I really don't get what you mean, could you elaborate?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
April 22 2013 22:28 GMT
#60
On April 23 2013 07:25 Comogury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:19 Musicus wrote:
Well nothing can be changed now afterwards of course. But I think, flying some Chinese players out to the next MLG would be a really cool gesture for example. They basically had their only chance to play in a big tournement taken away and need something to look forward to again and stay motivated to keep playing.

I don't think that option is viable anymore because they wouldn't be doing anything at an MLG.

As far as I'm aware the normal MLG tournaments continue?
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