I have seen to many apologies from MLG regarding previous tournaments etc. This qualifier was just over the top in how it affected players to a point where yet another apology and "we will improve" just doesn't cut it any longer. Cancelled my Gold subscription from lapsing over after this weekend and will wait and see how things improve before providing any more money to MLG production.

At least being in AUS I get to enjoy GSL in prime time

skyflyfish

Canada499 Posts

April 22 2013 22:29 GMT

#62

PR letter with Sundance's name on it, nothing to see here

NovemberstOrm

Canada16217 Posts

April 22 2013 22:29 GMT

#63

On April 23 2013 07:26 MCXD wrote:
No specific mention on what they're gonna do about the chinese players or the hacker[s]? Geez MLG.

At least you acknowledged it wasn't great.

Chloroplaste

France281 Posts

April 22 2013 22:31 GMT

#64

They really need to invite players like Comm Jim Demuslim directly in Code A (Challenger) without need to play a qualifier.
And the qualifier should be a open tournament not an invite one based on a premier qualifier which has no sense. And this qualifier should be reserved for Master 300+ NA or chinese who got left out in the first one.

govie

9334 Posts

April 22 2013 22:31 GMT

#65

He states ... "I assure you that we are making every effort to rectify this for all future WCS America operations."....

This is bullshit.. tell that to the pro's that got fucked by MLG... and now are held captive in the MLG-scene... This WCS-NA is bullcrap... i feel sorry for the progamers that got damaged... they should repair whats broken.. or atleast make an attempt..

Goolpsy

Denmark301 Posts

April 22 2013 22:31 GMT

#66

Useless statement, not mentioning the chinese.

Except for TOP and Macsed, because of of the WCS system work, the rest of the chinese are out for most of the 'year', and without any real chance of getting to the finals.

I like the possibility of growing the american scene, but not by destruction of others..

KKoNcept

United States25 Posts

April 22 2013 22:32 GMT

#67

Guys don't you know Sundance's "apology" cost at least $5000 to make? See he's sacrificing for us!

/sarcasm

Aerisky

United States12129 Posts

April 22 2013 22:32 GMT

#68

I guess it's too late to do much of anything now. Sundance is a great guy and definitely someone who tries to take into consideration everybody's thoughts and be a accommodating as possible. Good luck going forward.

farvacola

United States18839 Posts

April 22 2013 22:33 GMT

#69

Recognizing that mistakes were made is the first step in moving forward. Good on MLG for the apology; let's hope that the coming WCS NA broadcasts/events show off what was learned.

Corrosive

Canada3741 Posts

April 22 2013 22:33 GMT

#70

Interesting, it's basically the opposite of what he said last night on his twitter. The stuff he was saying yesterday basically said to me "not our fault, also im giving you all this stuff and you're just asking for more"

BeyondCtrL

Sweden642 Posts

April 22 2013 22:37 GMT

#71

Apologizing for screwing a lot of people out of potential and very much needed prize money and exposure is not enough. Don't just apologize to the viewers, apologize to the players and teams as well, this has really damaged the NA scene in the eyes of viewers, organizers, and most importantly players.

When I read the letter I was thinking of the South Park episode where BP drills and releases Cthulu and the CEO makes all those ridiculous "We're sorry..." ads. Those players need more than just that, they need compensation.

Rombur

Belgium107 Posts

April 22 2013 22:38 GMT

#72

So they won't do anything for the Chinese players ? That's really disappointing.

HobyHarro

United States30 Posts

April 22 2013 22:39 GMT

#73

The players who were "wronged" aren't locked out of the entire season, they just missed an opportunity to qualify for a special, one time premier league qualifier. There won't be any premier league qualifiers from here on out. There is still the challenger league and its respective qualifier for this season. I don't doubt that Sundance is sincere in his apology and I am sure MLG will adapt and improve, however, it is unfortunate that any of these mistakes happened in the first place. Regardless lets move on as community from this issue and enjoy the rest of what WCS has to offer.

-Kyo-

Japan1926 Posts

April 22 2013 22:39 GMT

#74

On April 23 2013 07:33 farvacola wrote:
Recognizing that mistakes were made is the first step in moving forward. Good on MLG for the apology; let's hope that the coming WCS NA broadcasts/events show off what was learned.

Sure, a great step forward.

However, they still have not put this information anywhere significant for players or community members other than the ONE(?) time it has been posted:

On April 20 2013 02:01 MLG Deimos wrote:

There will be a 2nd invite only qualifier next weekend to decide the 16 players entering the challenger league.

9th-40th from the Qualifying Tournament 1, will get an invite the 2nd qualifier.

I'm quite positive that if this continues to go unnoticed until the day of the next qualifier the NA scene is going to erupt in madness over this. People need to let MLG/WCS/whoever know that this is a HORRIBLE plan. It essentially would make any player, chinese, korean or what have you in-eligible for the second qualifier simply because they did not sign up. That means they cannot play in WCS related matches until Season 2. That's basically 3(?) months from now. People need to get this information out there.

@the guy above me: You should read my post.

On April 23 2013 07:39 HobyHarro wrote:
The players who were "wronged" aren't locked out of the entire season, they just missed an opportunity to qualify for a special, one time premier league qualifier. There won't be any premier league qualifiers from here on out. There is still the challenger league and its respective qualifier from here on out. I don't doubt that Sundance is sincere in his apology and I am sure MLG will adapt and improve. Regardless it is unfortunate that any of these mistakes happened in the first place.

Kirazaki

United Kingdom42 Posts

April 22 2013 22:39 GMT

#75

I appears each region of the WCS has all had their own issues and victories. If they all talked and tried a little harder to co-ordinate and use each others strengths then each region could easily be improved.

KingPaddy

1053 Posts

April 22 2013 22:39 GMT

#76

Huhh.. after the fourth European qualifier had a 2048 bracket, they expected that 512 places would be enough for everybody?!

Klipsys

United States1533 Posts

April 22 2013 22:41 GMT

#77

I love when something like this happens all of the armchair business experts come out in droves to provide their insight.

Nazeron

Canada1046 Posts

April 22 2013 22:42 GMT

#78

whenever something happens like this, something that is negative with MLG, they always fix it and make it a lot better and smoother, i have complete confidence in MLG to fix the problems they had

phodacbiet

United States1740 Posts

April 22 2013 22:43 GMT

#79

So.... he just said sorry, wont happen again? What about the current problem? Seems like damage control to me.

govie

9334 Posts

April 22 2013 22:44 GMT

#80

On April 23 2013 07:39 KingPaddy wrote:
Huhh.. after the fourth European qualifier had a 2048 bracket, they expected that 512 places would be enough for everybody?!

Yes, we are muricans!!!