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Sundance Apology Regarding WCS Qualifiers - Page 6

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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
April 22 2013 23:02 GMT
#101
Since it was online. It should've been predictable that 512 slots might not be enough. Especially if you consider that NA is the most accessable server worldwide. Every region in the world has a decent connection to NA, while EU - KOR is very bad for example. Therefor it's no surprise that especially in the asian region, a lot of players were interested in participation. I wouldn't blame only MLG for the mistakes, that were made. I think blizzard also needs to do a better job at making sure, that all the money, they invested in this year's WCS, is not invane.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 22 2013 23:03 GMT
#102
Nice sentiment which seems more than genuine. All though I'm sorry for a lot of the players, I can personally forgive and move forward. As long as MLG can rectify their mistakes in the future and put out a quality product. props mister Sundance, I still like you.
"Right on" - Morrow
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
April 22 2013 23:04 GMT
#103
I wont forgive that easily, they will need to show drastic improvements or im going to boycott mlg
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
April 22 2013 23:06 GMT
#104
It bugs that not all points on the "error" list are mentioned if i´m correct.
invisible tetris level master
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17183 Posts
April 22 2013 23:07 GMT
#105
i smell a giant conspiracy here people!

i think Blizzard, Sundance, ESL and GomTV are working together to create more content for Live On 3, State of the Game, and Inside The Game....
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
April 22 2013 23:07 GMT
#106
On April 23 2013 07:59 govie wrote:
Also there marketeer must have had a complete brainfreeze.. peeps did not want rebroadcasts.. ive read alot of negative feedback over the years about the casting from replay shit that mlg does...

Lets force our MLG businessmodel to the viewers, if they like it or not! /care


it's not like they tried to make everyone pay to play in the open qualifier (or to watch MLGs like last year).
MLG tries out how far they can go all the time. their business model has been such a fucking mess for a long time.

if the community outcry gets too big they just backpaddle and apologize.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 22 2013 23:09 GMT
#107
Pretty quick response, guess they feel heavily under pressure. Should ask ESL for some personnel support. And copy their no mercy rules. Though the no mercy rules might have caused some more outrage in this qualifier hehe. Wish I could also see gray sometimes in this sort of situations.

Not sure if every disqualified person made it to spot 9-40, but rather then ranting people might suggest via email that these 1-3 spots are filled by certain people as a compensation.
For example a mini qualifier for those spots played by all who got knocked out by those 2 and didn't reach spot 9-40. Or demand even more. If there is enough demand people might even get Comm directly into the challenger league.
Though I think they said that Chinese get an invite to the challenger qualifier anyway, hopefully it was not the person who said they will get safe places in the recent qualifier ^^; .

And if you want to demand something insane, tell em that you want Comm added to a group in Code S. 5 people group with 2 advancing works.
PXEnTei
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States209 Posts
April 22 2013 23:09 GMT
#108
OK great. now redo it. make code s 64 people. qualify the ppl already there. run qualifyers for the other 32 spots. make this a better tourny. give the ppl who got skrewd another chance. use this fomat, but make sure u know who is signing up. I belive this will make a better tourny for all.
"Sue me, dickhead!" -Thor
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
April 22 2013 23:11 GMT
#109
On April 23 2013 08:03 JacobShock wrote:
Nice sentiment which seems more than genuine. All though I'm sorry for a lot of the players, I can personally forgive and move forward. As long as MLG can rectify their mistakes in the future and put out a quality product. props mister Sundance, I still like you.


Are you seriously buying this? This is as standard of an apology letter as an apology letter can be. It touches on next to none of the issues people had with the event and offers nothing in the way of what they are going to do to try and fix any of this shit.
If you look at Mister Sundances tweets you'll also know that this "apology" is just a PR trick with no sincerity behind it at all.

Can MLG make it better in the future? sure but nothing will fix this trainwreck of an event.
You need to construct additional pylons.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
April 22 2013 23:13 GMT
#110
On April 23 2013 07:08 Talack wrote:
Apologies are good and all, what is being done to fix this situation now?



They are saying they will fix issues.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
April 22 2013 23:14 GMT
#111
Too little too late, how many times are they gonna fuck up and apologize and in the name of promoting esports we are gonna let it slide...? They have been around for 10 years now ? It's not like there are no other organizations out there, it's time for free market to sort it out...
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 23:15:19
April 22 2013 23:15 GMT
#112
On April 23 2013 08:13 HeeroFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:08 Talack wrote:
Apologies are good and all, what is being done to fix this situation now?



They are saying they will fix issues.

how? and which issues?
Kakaru2
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
April 22 2013 23:15 GMT
#113
On April 23 2013 08:09 FeyFey wrote:
Should ask ESL for some personnel support. And copy their no mercy rules.


What are those? Google returns something about baseball.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
April 22 2013 23:15 GMT
#114
On April 23 2013 07:32 Aerisky wrote:
I guess it's too late to do much of anything now. Sundance is a great guy and definitely someone who tries to take into consideration everybody's thoughts and be a accommodating as possible. Good luck going forward.

On April 23 2013 07:33 farvacola wrote:
Recognizing that mistakes were made is the first step in moving forward. Good on MLG for the apology; let's hope that the coming WCS NA broadcasts/events show off what was learned.

I always enjoy how things are always "moving forward," but never getting anywhere :D Just like politics.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
April 22 2013 23:16 GMT
#115
On April 23 2013 08:11 Fluffboll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 08:03 JacobShock wrote:
Nice sentiment which seems more than genuine. All though I'm sorry for a lot of the players, I can personally forgive and move forward. As long as MLG can rectify their mistakes in the future and put out a quality product. props mister Sundance, I still like you.


Are you seriously buying this? This is as standard of an apology letter as an apology letter can be. It touches on next to none of the issues people had with the event and offers nothing in the way of what they are going to do to try and fix any of this shit.
If you look at Mister Sundances tweets you'll also know that this "apology" is just a PR trick with no sincerity behind it at all.

Can MLG make it better in the future? sure but nothing will fix this trainwreck of an event.


MLG does have a point; since this is the worst run tournament/qualifier in the history of SC2, the next one will 'most likely' be better, even if they DQ chinese and hide the bracket again :D
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 23:17:14
April 22 2013 23:17 GMT
#116
On April 23 2013 08:15 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:32 Aerisky wrote:
I guess it's too late to do much of anything now. Sundance is a great guy and definitely someone who tries to take into consideration everybody's thoughts and be a accommodating as possible. Good luck going forward.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:33 farvacola wrote:
Recognizing that mistakes were made is the first step in moving forward. Good on MLG for the apology; let's hope that the coming WCS NA broadcasts/events show off what was learned.

I always enjoy how things are always "moving forward," but never getting anywhere :D Just like life.

Fixed that for ya, sodaboy.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
April 22 2013 23:17 GMT
#117
On April 23 2013 08:13 HeeroFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:08 Talack wrote:
Apologies are good and all, what is being done to fix this situation now?



They are saying they will fix issues.

Fix it through what method? Their definition of fix is likely "not like this happen again at the next one", but how do they make it up to all the people who got screwed by them already? From the way their initial statement appears they are just brushing their shoulders off and calling it a day. Do nothing and hope people forget...If I was one of the Chinese players who got screwed I'd be livid.
Shinyakusa
Profile Joined July 2012
United States36 Posts
April 22 2013 23:18 GMT
#118
This doesn't make up for everything, but it is a good start. Good on Sundance for owning up.
"Idra will for sure win now, now that he has on his leather gracket." - Artosis
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
April 22 2013 23:18 GMT
#119
Apologies are useless.

critique
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States135 Posts
April 22 2013 23:20 GMT
#120
Credit where its due; recognizing and admitting the problems is exactly the right thing to do. Thanks Sundance.
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