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I really think they owe the players who were eliminated by the hacker a second chance. Maybe they should make a min tournament with those players, the Chines players and Byun(?).
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I am glad they got it right.
nvm thought that was going for premier.
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On April 25 2013 03:04 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 02:49 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 02:46 HereBeDragons wrote:On April 25 2013 01:56 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 00:56 HereBeDragons wrote:On April 25 2013 00:02 ProBot wrote:On April 24 2013 22:58 HereBeDragons wrote:On April 24 2013 21:33 ProBot wrote:On April 24 2013 21:26 nihlon wrote:On April 24 2013 20:08 ProBot wrote:
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Actually quotes like that are exactly what the community needs to hear because it's brutally honest, people are bitching about a FREE TOURNAMENT, seriously? MLG did they best they could with the time they had, the only major issue with the WCS is that Koreans shouldn't be playing in tournaments outside of Korea FROM Korea, and the WCS it does feel rushed by Blizzard but at least they're trying. 90% of you sound like spoiled brats on Christmas that asked for a ps3 but got a 360, grow up. Eh, if that happened some of the best tournaments we'd have in sc2 wouldn't have happened. For the WCS it makes sense to have such a limitation but certainly not for all tournaments. And i absolutely agree that's why i said "the only major issue with the WCS is that Koreans shouldn't be playing in tournaments outside of Korea FROM Korea" :D "Only major issue"? How about the part where many players, including NA players like Root's Puck, SEA players, Chinese players, all got their career screwed up for the ENTIRE YEAR because they missed out a chance to gain points in the first season? What about disqualifying a legitimate contender in the final round of the brackets? What about having hackers in your tournament? What about resurrecting Hyun to play after he already got disqualified? Wtf are those, minor issues? Not enough time to prepare? ESL did their tournament before MLG, and they did a good job at it. They saw the size of demands, they saw potential problems. If you didn't have enough time how come ESL did? It's not a valid excuse to cover up for incompetent admins and broken websites systems. If anything, they should be fixing the mistakes ESL made and improve upon it, instead they just turned everything upside down. I made more than one post ... try reading them. Career's ruined for an entire year? Please, most of them are only missing out on $500 .. and there are other tournaments throughout the year. It's a shitty buzz but not the end of the world and it's shit that'll be fixed over time. Are you losing out on money? Probably not, they can try to re-qualify in 3 months and go from there, so again from a community standpoint fucking relax. There are only 3 seasons for the entire year, if you miss 1/3 of the potential points, good luck trying to catch up to people who made it into the Premier league during the first season. People who made it to Premier have more chances to stay in Premier than people who had to go through Challenger first. MLG condemned them to a massive deficit during the whole year because they made stupid decisions and poor planning after already having a good example to copy from. This is not "just a shitty buzz," you're just oblivious to it. Why don't you can go tell people who lost to hackers and those who got disqualified and those who weren't allowed to participate to "fucking relax." Hey genius u can accumulate points from WCS sponsored events at tournaments like NASL and Dreamhack ... so yeah ... fucking relax. Again I'm not saying it doesn't suck but by no stretch of the imagination is it nearly as bad as people are letting on. One of the things MLG is good at is improving on their fuck ups, this community is mostly made up of people that like to bitch for the sake of bitching. There's no appreciation for the events we have now and expectations set BY THE COMMUNITY so fucking high that if they're not met on the first go, out comes the pitch forks. GSL and ESL have been running tournaments with a similar or same format longer than MLG who do their own thing once every couple months ... they're going to be a little behind the ball than the other two. So a little bit of understanding and patience from the community instead of the regular douchebaggery would probably help the situation a lot more than the constant 12 year old nagging that usually goes on around here. Hey idoit, players who are in Premier also get those points in other tournaments, so you still have to catch up. and WCS does not sponsor for any of them. It's as bad as people complain, and you are just trying to pretend it's not. If you HAVE to go play other tournaments for mistake that is not your fault, you can just "fucking relax?" MLG has shown mistakes, after mistakes, after mistakes in this quailifier. They even have examples to learn from. ESL did it the weekend before and they didn't fuck up. It's not okay to just wave your hand and say "nevermind." This is why people complain so much. Issuing a 5min speech is not fixing any problems. If they're not capable of organizing a proper online tournament then they don't deserve to be doing it. Expectations are set so high because no other organization is having the problems MLG have. If everybody else in the world can do it, so can you. If you can't then let someone else who can do it. Saying "let's pretend nothing happended during this qualifier" like you are doing is more insulting than all the complaining, and does not solve any problems. On April 25 2013 02:31 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 02:27 Dracid wrote:On April 25 2013 01:56 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 00:56 HereBeDragons wrote:On April 25 2013 00:02 ProBot wrote:On April 24 2013 22:58 HereBeDragons wrote:On April 24 2013 21:33 ProBot wrote:
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And i absolutely agree that's why i said "the only major issue with the WCS is that Koreans shouldn't be playing in tournaments outside of Korea FROM Korea" :D "Only major issue"? How about the part where many players, including NA players like Root's Puck, SEA players, Chinese players, all got their career screwed up for the ENTIRE YEAR because they missed out a chance to gain points in the first season? What about disqualifying a legitimate contender in the final round of the brackets? What about having hackers in your tournament? What about resurrecting Hyun to play after he already got disqualified? Wtf are those, minor issues? Not enough time to prepare? ESL did their tournament before MLG, and they did a good job at it. They saw the size of demands, they saw potential problems. If you didn't have enough time how come ESL did? It's not a valid excuse to cover up for incompetent admins and broken websites systems. If anything, they should be fixing the mistakes ESL made and improve upon it, instead they just turned everything upside down. I made more than one post ... try reading them. Career's ruined for an entire year? Please, most of them are only missing out on $500 .. and there are other tournaments throughout the year. It's a shitty buzz but not the end of the world and it's shit that'll be fixed over time. Are you losing out on money? Probably not, they can try to re-qualify in 3 months and go from there, so again from a community standpoint fucking relax. There are only 3 seasons for the entire year, if you miss 1/3 of the potential points, good luck trying to catch up to people who made it into the Premier league during the first season. People who made it to Premier have more chances to stay in Premier than people who had to go through Challenger first. MLG condemned them to a massive deficit during the whole year because they made stupid decisions and poor planning after already having a good example to copy from. This is not "just a shitty buzz," you're just oblivious to it. Why don't you can go tell people who lost to hackers and those who got disqualified and those who weren't allowed to participate to "fucking relax." Hey genius u can accumulate points from WCS sponsored events at tournaments like NASL and Dreamhack ... so yeah ... fucking relax. Again I'm not saying it doesn't suck but by no stretch of the imagination is it nearly as bad as people are letting on. One of the things MLG is good at is improving on their fuck ups, this community is mostly made up of people that like to bitch for the sake of bitching. There's no appreciation for the events we have now and expectations set BY THE COMMUNITY so fucking high that if they're not met on the first go, out comes the pitch forks. GSL and ESL have been running tournaments with a similar or same format longer than MLG who do their own thing once every couple months ... they're going to be a little behind the ball than the other two. So a little bit of understanding and patience from the community instead of the regular douchebaggery would probably help the situation a lot more than the constant 12 year old nagging that usually goes on around here. http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/8075454/It's not financially viable for Chinese players to fly to dreamhack, and even tier-1 non WCS tournaments will get you less than half of the points that a premier league tournament would give. It's still possible to come back from such a deficit, it's just much, much harder. The competition is difficult enough as it is, missing out on one of the three seasons will probably kill your chances at making it to the grand finals unless you're a top tier Korean. They have those SEA tournaments that are sponsored by Blizzard ... Challenger series or something like that, that's more viable. Altho not ideal there are still options, either way that's a blizzard issue not an MLG issue so not sure what relevance it has to this tread :/ Name 1 tournament in SEA that blizzard sponsors? There aren't any. It's called vengance cup ... so yeah there is, know what your talking about before you try and flame people. http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/594540/SC2_Vengeance_Cup_Coming_to_SEA-4_15_2013 there's the link for you because from the looks of it research isn't your thing. Unless you think Chinese are from Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand or Philippines, research isn't your thing either.
Wholly fuck read the previous posts before you open your pie hole, Buddy said the chinese cats are fucked, yeah they are but blizzard is hosting the above mini tournaments until they sort something out for SEA for WCS, god some of you are thick.
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Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax.
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Still some players get better treatment to be seeded into the Invite-Only Qualifier (no one knows how they determine these), and the rest has to play through 2 Qualifiers (first Open 512bracket -> 8 spots into Invite-Only -> 16 who get into Challenger).
Atleast GM-Masters regulation and some improvement. Would've loved to see Chinese/screwed over players to get seeded into the Invite-Only Qualifier but that's maybe bit too much and if they are skilled enough they can still make it.
It's atleast a step in the right direction even if the GM-Masters regulation comes a bit late and could've been also implemented for the PremierLeague Qualifier.
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On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax.
Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play the entire challanger qualifier is really the same!
They should have seeded them into challanger league, thats what i think.
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On April 25 2013 06:49 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax. Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play he entire challanger qualifier is really the same! They should have seeses them into challanger, thats what i think.
It's better than nothing is it not?
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On April 25 2013 06:50 ProBot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 06:49 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax. Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play he entire challanger qualifier is really the same! They should have seeses them into challanger, thats what i think. It's better than nothing is it not?
It is!
But still why do have some players get through 2 Qualfiers to get into Challenger and some only through 1 Qualifier now ? (OpenQualifier only gets u 8 spots for the Invite-Only ChallengerQualifier)
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On April 25 2013 06:50 ProBot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 06:49 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax. Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play he entire challanger qualifier is really the same! They should have seeses them into challanger, thats what i think. It's better than nothing is it not?
Better than nothing != a good way to fix the problem.
THey could have sended them 10$. Would it fix the problem? No. Is it better than nothing? Well yeah.
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It's not equal to the dmg done by how bad the PremierLeague Qualifier was run.
But they can't do much about it now without damaging all parties involved in the first Qualifier that got to play.
MLG is still at fault for not planning this whole WCS NA good enough. They are still at fault for getting 0 information about other WCS Regions from last Year and the undermanned admin staff or not able to handle things accordingly.
But they also could've just done nothing now and waited for Season2.
What i still don't like is this double Qualifier for Challenger now. Who are the players that start already in the InviteOnly Challenger Qualifier, if based on the PremierLeague Qualifier it is still very questionable.
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On April 25 2013 06:52 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 06:50 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 06:49 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax. Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play he entire challanger qualifier is really the same! They should have seeses them into challanger, thats what i think. It's better than nothing is it not? Better than nothing != a good way to fix the problem. THey could have sended them 10$. Would it fix the problem? No. Is it better than nothing? Well yeah.
Zomg they only get to qualify for challenger series and not premier they got so screwed blah blah blah. Dude use your head. Whats done is done and they're doing the best they can to fix shit so there's way and hell this shit is going to happen for the next season. What are they supposed to do re-start the quals? Yeah that makes a ton of sense. "hey dudes well u did great in your qualifiers but the community is really crusty and mad that we made a mistake so your going to have to replay your matches. Sorry bros ..." You really need to clean the sand out of your ovaries. Or just fucking relax :D
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On April 25 2013 07:02 ProBot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 06:52 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:50 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 06:49 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax. Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play he entire challanger qualifier is really the same! They should have seeses them into challanger, thats what i think. It's better than nothing is it not? Better than nothing != a good way to fix the problem. THey could have sended them 10$. Would it fix the problem? No. Is it better than nothing? Well yeah. Zomg they only get to qualify for challenger series and not premier they got so screwed blah blah blah. Dude use your head. Whats done is done and they're doing the best they can to fix shit so there's way and hell this shit is going to happen for the next season. What are they supposed to do re-start the quals? Yeah that makes a ton of sense. "hey dudes well u did great in your qualifiers but the community is really crusty and mad that we made a mistake so your going to have to replay your matches. Sorry bros ..." You really need to clean the sand out of your ovaries. Or just fucking relax :D
Why do you always tell us to "just relax"? If you get screwed you dont just relax. Its not about using our pitchforks and burn sundance on a pile of wood. For me the problem is that MLG apparently doesnt give a damn. They are like "whatever, let them try to qualifier for challanger league " - which they technicly could have just registered for. They didnt get anything. And how about you use your head, maybe for the first time in one of your posts. You seem not to care about the players who got screwed, maybe you dont like them or you just want to see code s lvl koreans, but for me its just a pity how the entire process eih them was handled by MLG..
Edit: i dont want them to restart the entire qualifier, that would be the worst thing they could ever do
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On April 25 2013 06:52 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 06:50 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 06:49 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax. Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play he entire challanger qualifier is really the same! They should have seeses them into challanger, thats what i think. It's better than nothing is it not? Better than nothing != a good way to fix the problem. THey could have sended them 10$. Would it fix the problem? No. Is it better than nothing? Well yeah.
Just as long as it isn't $5 because Sundance is an asshole and MLG and Blizzard don't care about StarCraft or the players or the fans or anything or anyone.
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On April 25 2013 07:24 dvorakftw wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 06:52 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:50 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 06:49 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax. Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play he entire challanger qualifier is really the same! They should have seeses them into challanger, thats what i think. It's better than nothing is it not? Better than nothing != a good way to fix the problem. THey could have sended them 10$. Would it fix the problem? No. Is it better than nothing? Well yeah. Just as long as it isn't $5 because Sundance is an asshole and MLG and Blizzard don't care about StarCraft or the players or the fans or anything or anyone.
Im not sur if i understand your post correctly. I wasnt trying to imply that every player should have gotten 10$. It was just a way to tell that better thsn nothing doesnt mean he result is good. MLG has been hosting fantastic tournaments over the last years, but i dont know what happened with the qualifiers. Everything just fell appart. Im not saying MLG doesnt care about it, it just FEELS this way when you get a half arsed appologie and no good plan to fix the issues :/
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They did the right thing. May be "too much" but it was fair compensation
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I really wish they would have mentioned something about Chinese players. Blizzard has tried to develop SC2 in China for years, and I think they could have done a lot more.
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On April 25 2013 07:10 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 07:02 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 06:52 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:50 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 06:49 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax. Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play he entire challanger qualifier is really the same! They should have seeses them into challanger, thats what i think. It's better than nothing is it not? Better than nothing != a good way to fix the problem. THey could have sended them 10$. Would it fix the problem? No. Is it better than nothing? Well yeah. Zomg they only get to qualify for challenger series and not premier they got so screwed blah blah blah. Dude use your head. Whats done is done and they're doing the best they can to fix shit so there's way and hell this shit is going to happen for the next season. What are they supposed to do re-start the quals? Yeah that makes a ton of sense. "hey dudes well u did great in your qualifiers but the community is really crusty and mad that we made a mistake so your going to have to replay your matches. Sorry bros ..." You really need to clean the sand out of your ovaries. Or just fucking relax :D Why do you always tell us to "just relax"? If you get screwed you dont just relax. Its not about using our pitchforks and burn sundance on a pile of wood. For me the problem is that MLG apparently doesnt give a damn. They are like "whatever, let them try to qualifier for challanger league " - which they technicly could have just registered for. They didnt get anything. And how about you use your head, maybe for the first time in one of your posts. You seem not to care about the players who got screwed, maybe you dont like them or you just want to see code s lvl koreans, but for me its just a pity how the entire process eih them was handled by MLG.. Edit: i dont want them to restart the entire qualifier, that would be the worst thing they could ever do
It's not that i don't care, it's just what are they supposed to do about it now? Why stress and make a big fuss out of something that's out of your control? Like i said before it is a shitty buzz, but the fact is it's done and over with and like everything else in life you take what you can from the mistakes you make, learn from them, and improve off of that. It's not like they did this shit just to piss people off, kind of counter-productive to being a business right? Altho placement into the challenger series quals isn't going to replace playing in the premier quals looking at it now what else are they supposed to do? At least they realized and admitted to making the mistakes and are trying to fix it the best they can. Reality of it is we just don't know what they can do to fix it, it's easy to say have a mini tourney with the people that should have made it and have add a couple extra people to the premier bracket or what not. But i'm sure whatever they do needs to go through Blizzard first and whatever else from there.
I'm not even an MLG fanboy but it's getting to the point where every week people are bitching about something, and it's really getting old. And I've seen the whole e-sport thing grow and what we have now for content, tournaments, and money is light years ahead of what it was 5..... 10 ... 15 years ago, but there's zero respect or appreciation for that or the people putting their lives and families aside to run these events that we all love yet at the first sign of trouble get shit on by everyone and their dog.
I'm telling people to relax because what's being a bitch about it now really going to fix? It's not like they need more people telling them they fucked up because they already know that. Altho not ideal they're making the best out what they have, yeah players might have to work a little harder to get to premier through the challenger league or what not but at least they still have an opportunity to compete, make some money and a name for themselves.
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On April 25 2013 07:02 semmeL wrote:
It's not equal to the dmg done by how bad the PremierLeague Qualifier was run.
But they can't do much about it now without damaging all parties involved in the first Qualifier that got to play.
They could make Apocalypse play for his spot instead of giving him a walk-over Comm.
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On April 25 2013 08:14 ProBot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 07:10 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 07:02 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 06:52 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:50 ProBot wrote:On April 25 2013 06:49 BlackCompany wrote:On April 25 2013 06:42 ProBot wrote:Wow MLG already fixing their mistakes .... NO WAY, wow i didn't see that coming at all .... oh ... wait. Relax. Yeah because being invited to a lower level qualifier is totally the same as playing in the final rounds of the premier qualifier. Wasnt 1 chinese player 1 game away from qualifying for premier legue? I guess having to play he entire challanger qualifier is really the same! They should have seeses them into challanger, thats what i think. It's better than nothing is it not? Better than nothing != a good way to fix the problem. THey could have sended them 10$. Would it fix the problem? No. Is it better than nothing? Well yeah. Zomg they only get to qualify for challenger series and not premier they got so screwed blah blah blah. Dude use your head. Whats done is done and they're doing the best they can to fix shit so there's way and hell this shit is going to happen for the next season. What are they supposed to do re-start the quals? Yeah that makes a ton of sense. "hey dudes well u did great in your qualifiers but the community is really crusty and mad that we made a mistake so your going to have to replay your matches. Sorry bros ..." You really need to clean the sand out of your ovaries. Or just fucking relax :D Why do you always tell us to "just relax"? If you get screwed you dont just relax. Its not about using our pitchforks and burn sundance on a pile of wood. For me the problem is that MLG apparently doesnt give a damn. They are like "whatever, let them try to qualifier for challanger league " - which they technicly could have just registered for. They didnt get anything. And how about you use your head, maybe for the first time in one of your posts. You seem not to care about the players who got screwed, maybe you dont like them or you just want to see code s lvl koreans, but for me its just a pity how the entire process eih them was handled by MLG.. Edit: i dont want them to restart the entire qualifier, that would be the worst thing they could ever do It's not that i don't care, it's just what are they supposed to do about it now? Why stress and make a big fuss out of something that's out of your control? Like i said before it is a shitty buzz, but the fact is it's done and over with and like everything else in life you take what you can from the mistakes you make, learn from them, and improve off of that. It's not like they did this shit just to piss people off, kind of counter-productive to being a business right? Altho placement into the challenger series quals isn't going to replace playing in the premier quals looking at it now what else are they supposed to do? At least they realized and admitted to making the mistakes and are trying to fix it the best they can. Reality of it is we just don't know what they can do to fix it, it's easy to say have a mini tourney with the people that should have made it and have add a couple extra people to the premier bracket or what not. But i'm sure whatever they do needs to go through Blizzard first and whatever else from there. I'm not even an MLG fanboy but it's getting to the point where every week people are bitching about something, and it's really getting old. And I've seen the whole e-sport thing grow and what we have now for content, tournaments, and money is light years ahead of what it was 5..... 10 ... 15 years ago, but there's zero respect or appreciation for that or the people putting their lives and families aside to run these events that we all love yet at the first sign of trouble get shit on by everyone and their dog. I'm telling people to relax because what's being a bitch about it now really going to fix? It's not like they need more people telling them they fucked up because they already know that. Altho not ideal they're making the best out what they have, yeah players might have to work a little harder to get to premier through the challenger league or what not but at least they still have an opportunity to compete, make some money and a name for themselves.
Well if you tell it this way, i kinda agree with you. Didnt really see what your real intenions were with all this short statements 
You are right, fixing the problem has got out of hand. There is not much you can do, but i would have liked a real appologie or as i said before, that some of the ppl who got really screwed get a bonus in the qualifiers. I mean, they are inviting them into an open bracket.. they could have played it anyway?
I dont think that people have no respect for blizzard,MLG,ESL or whatever organization. But if you deliver a broken product, you get critizized. Thats part of the business and helps them making their product better. Well some cirtics went over the top + in a RTS game like Starcraft there will always be people who hate on the developers because they loose 3 games in a row.
To summarize, good points by you, i dont really like the "fucking relax" but if you explain it to me like you did in your post, i may have understood it more harsh than you mean it. English is not my native language as you can see from my posts^^
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