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Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format

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StarcraftHistorian
Profile Joined November 2022
United States188 Posts
July 13 2026 15:25 GMT
#1
Hello all!

At HSC 29 in Krefeld I had the chance to sit down with Reynor for our second interview, more than two years after the first. As always I had a lovely time chatting with Riccardo and think you will al enjoy watching!



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bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary414 Posts
July 13 2026 18:41 GMT
#2
Thanks!
Nice work.
Reynor is such a treasure, glad to have him in SC2.
StarcraftHistorian
Profile Joined November 2022
United States188 Posts
July 13 2026 20:09 GMT
#3
On July 14 2026 03:41 bela.mervado wrote:
Thanks!
Nice work.
Reynor is such a treasure, glad to have him in SC2.


Truly one of my favorite voices in the game today. Also pretty good at the game xd
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33675 Posts
July 14 2026 21:23 GMT
#4
lol, does Reynor still get any REAL hate for his GSL performances? I feel like after region lock was removed and constant overrating of foreigners by the casual community went away (largely in thanks to players like Reynor actually performing at a championship level), it settled the biggest grievances held by 'Korean-elitists.' If anything, I think he gets a lot of respect for being the foreigner who constantly challenges himself in GSL.

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StarcraftHistorian
Profile Joined November 2022
United States188 Posts
July 14 2026 22:02 GMT
#5
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On July 15 2026 06:23 Waxangel wrote:
lol, does Reynor still get any REAL hate for his GSL performances? I feel like after region lock was removed and constant overrating of foreigners by the casual community went away (largely in thanks to players like Reynor actually performing at a championship level), it settled the biggest grievances held by 'Korean-elitists.' If anything, I think he gets a lot of respect for being the foreigner who constantly challenges himself in GSL.


Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33675 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-14 22:26:26
July 14 2026 22:25 GMT
#6
On July 15 2026 07:02 StarcraftHistorian wrote:
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On July 15 2026 06:23 Waxangel wrote:
lol, does Reynor still get any REAL hate for his GSL performances? I feel like after region lock was removed and constant overrating of foreigners by the casual community went away (largely in thanks to players like Reynor actually performing at a championship level), it settled the biggest grievances held by 'Korean-elitists.' If anything, I think he gets a lot of respect for being the foreigner who constantly challenges himself in GSL.




Yeah, cause the plainest of plain banter constitutes hate, especially from the notable xenophobe and hateful progamer Solar
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
StarcraftHistorian
Profile Joined November 2022
United States188 Posts
July 14 2026 23:12 GMT
#7
On July 15 2026 07:25 Waxangel wrote:
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On July 15 2026 07:02 StarcraftHistorian wrote:
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On July 15 2026 06:23 Waxangel wrote:
lol, does Reynor still get any REAL hate for his GSL performances? I feel like after region lock was removed and constant overrating of foreigners by the casual community went away (largely in thanks to players like Reynor actually performing at a championship level), it settled the biggest grievances held by 'Korean-elitists.' If anything, I think he gets a lot of respect for being the foreigner who constantly challenges himself in GSL.




Yeah, cause the plainest of plain banter constitutes hate, especially from the notable xenophobe and hateful progamer Solar


Bro, I don’t think this could have more obviously been a meme post on my part
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33675 Posts
July 14 2026 23:44 GMT
#8
On July 15 2026 08:12 StarcraftHistorian wrote:
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On July 15 2026 07:25 Waxangel wrote:
On July 15 2026 07:02 StarcraftHistorian wrote:
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On July 15 2026 06:23 Waxangel wrote:
lol, does Reynor still get any REAL hate for his GSL performances? I feel like after region lock was removed and constant overrating of foreigners by the casual community went away (largely in thanks to players like Reynor actually performing at a championship level), it settled the biggest grievances held by 'Korean-elitists.' If anything, I think he gets a lot of respect for being the foreigner who constantly challenges himself in GSL.




Yeah, cause the plainest of plain banter constitutes hate, especially from the notable xenophobe and hateful progamer Solar


Bro, I don’t think this could have more obviously been a meme post on my part



Hey, you're the guy who asked the question seriously in the interview
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
StarcraftHistorian
Profile Joined November 2022
United States188 Posts
July 15 2026 00:29 GMT
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StarcraftHistorian
Profile Joined November 2022
United States188 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-15 00:29:48
July 15 2026 00:29 GMT
#10
Few min of searching, from my phone, at a Nepalese restaurant
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13012 Posts
July 15 2026 06:10 GMT
#11
The memes with the shiba are funny though? I mean GSL is difficult, Even for more proven KR players than Reynor, so nothing surprising about his exit
Heck Even Clem iirc didn’t make it in the weak GSL era
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rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
343 Posts
July 15 2026 13:46 GMT
#12
One thing that would be legitimately interesting is to examine statistically whether there is a material difference in upset odds in prep tournaments versus weekenders. Anecdotally it feels for sure there is, but it would be interesting to see it quantified.
StarcraftHistorian
Profile Joined November 2022
United States188 Posts
July 15 2026 14:22 GMT
#13
On July 15 2026 22:46 rwala wrote:
One thing that would be legitimately interesting is to examine statistically whether there is a material difference in upset odds in prep tournaments versus weekenders. Anecdotally it feels for sure there is, but it would be interesting to see it quantified.

Def would be super interesting to see!
veniss
Profile Joined August 2018
81 Posts
July 16 2026 23:19 GMT
#14
Respect to Reynor for going to Korea to play in Code S. Foreigners in Code S is the best.
PremoBeats
Profile Joined March 2024
579 Posts
July 17 2026 10:59 GMT
#15
On July 15 2026 22:46 rwala wrote:
One thing that would be legitimately interesting is to examine statistically whether there is a material difference in upset odds in prep tournaments versus weekenders. Anecdotally it feels for sure there is, but it would be interesting to see it quantified.


That's actually an interesting question. I could dig into my data. My current suspicion is that format (Bo1 vs. Bo9), patch quality, patch maturity, balance, and mirror matchups explain more of the variation in upset rates than the prep/weekender distinction, but it'd be interesting to test.

I also think you'd have to split the analysis into different eras. The competitive landscape has changed quite a bit over the years - tournament structures, patch cadence, player pool depth, and even the prevalence of prep events have all evolved. Pooling everything together could easily mask or inflate any prep/weekender effect.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1950 Posts
July 17 2026 11:01 GMT
#16
On July 15 2026 23:22 StarcraftHistorian wrote:
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On July 15 2026 22:46 rwala wrote:
One thing that would be legitimately interesting is to examine statistically whether there is a material difference in upset odds in prep tournaments versus weekenders. Anecdotally it feels for sure there is, but it would be interesting to see it quantified.

Def would be super interesting to see!


My hunch is that preparation formats have less upsets because they usually have bo5 and bo7 earlier in the event, which would decrease variance.
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PremoBeats
Profile Joined March 2024
579 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-17 11:05:19
July 17 2026 11:04 GMT
#17
Good point... perhaps I could control for that. Compare Bo5 / Bo7 of weekenders and preps.
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
343 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-23 13:24:03
July 23 2026 13:23 GMT
#18
On July 17 2026 20:01 Mizenhauer wrote:
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On July 15 2026 23:22 StarcraftHistorian wrote:
On July 15 2026 22:46 rwala wrote:
One thing that would be legitimately interesting is to examine statistically whether there is a material difference in upset odds in prep tournaments versus weekenders. Anecdotally it feels for sure there is, but it would be interesting to see it quantified.

Def would be super interesting to see!


My hunch is that preparation formats have less upsets because they usually have bo5 and bo7 earlier in the event, which would decrease variance.


Interesting. I was thinking the opposite, but then again I was also assuming we control for sets/match. My assumption is that prep tourneys have quite a bit more upset potential. When you have days or even weeks to prepare for a specific opponent, it’s easier to develop strategies and builds that can overcome the skill gap. By contrast, when you’re grinding out 15-20 games in 48 hours against an unpredictable slate of opponents, you have to rely much more on skill and mechanics. I’m blanking on whether Lambo ever went to Korea to participate in GSL, but I always thought he would do well in that kind of format since he’s such an incredible strategist.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-24 12:24:32
July 24 2026 11:26 GMT
#19
On July 23 2026 22:23 rwala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2026 20:01 Mizenhauer wrote:
On July 15 2026 23:22 StarcraftHistorian wrote:
On July 15 2026 22:46 rwala wrote:
One thing that would be legitimately interesting is to examine statistically whether there is a material difference in upset odds in prep tournaments versus weekenders. Anecdotally it feels for sure there is, but it would be interesting to see it quantified.

Def would be super interesting to see!


My hunch is that preparation formats have less upsets because they usually have bo5 and bo7 earlier in the event, which would decrease variance.


Interesting. I was thinking the opposite, but then again I was also assuming we control for sets/match. My assumption is that prep tourneys have quite a bit more upset potential. When you have days or even weeks to prepare for a specific opponent, it’s easier to develop strategies and builds that can overcome the skill gap. By contrast, when you’re grinding out 15-20 games in 48 hours against an unpredictable slate of opponents, you have to rely much more on skill and mechanics. I’m blanking on whether Lambo ever went to Korea to participate in GSL, but I always thought he would do well in that kind of format since he’s such an incredible strategist.


It goes both ways. The inferior player has more time to prepare unexpected builds, but the better player has more time to study their opponent's tendencies.
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rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
343 Posts
July 24 2026 12:47 GMT
#20
On July 24 2026 20:26 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2026 22:23 rwala wrote:
On July 17 2026 20:01 Mizenhauer wrote:
On July 15 2026 23:22 StarcraftHistorian wrote:
On July 15 2026 22:46 rwala wrote:
One thing that would be legitimately interesting is to examine statistically whether there is a material difference in upset odds in prep tournaments versus weekenders. Anecdotally it feels for sure there is, but it would be interesting to see it quantified.

Def would be super interesting to see!


My hunch is that preparation formats have less upsets because they usually have bo5 and bo7 earlier in the event, which would decrease variance.


Interesting. I was thinking the opposite, but then again I was also assuming we control for sets/match. My assumption is that prep tourneys have quite a bit more upset potential. When you have days or even weeks to prepare for a specific opponent, it’s easier to develop strategies and builds that can overcome the skill gap. By contrast, when you’re grinding out 15-20 games in 48 hours against an unpredictable slate of opponents, you have to rely much more on skill and mechanics. I’m blanking on whether Lambo ever went to Korea to participate in GSL, but I always thought he would do well in that kind of format since he’s such an incredible strategist.


It goes both ways. The inferior player has more time to prepare unexpected builds, but the better player has more time to study their opponent's tendencies.


That’s a good point. I actually was thinking a similar thought in listening to Clem’s interview. He talked about how he was spending a lot of time with Future and learned all about these very specific reaper builds that Future specializes in. It made me realize that outside of the super top tier, your opponent is likely to have a much narrower set of playstyles so it can be easier to study/prepare/counter. I can’t remember if it was Reynor or who but someone was saying that the hardest thing about playing Maru wasn’t his speed or skill but that he basically plays every playstyle of Terran and he’s quite unpredictable in how he mixes them in. Like sometimes he’ll play a match and do a smattering of mech, bio, 2 base all-in, camp, proxy, etc and sometimes he’ll just camp every game and sometimes he’ll pick some seemingly random build he thinks is good against an opponent and spam it. I feel like he learned this from Rogue a long time ago. I remember a long time ago he played a series against Stats and just spammed some weird (and not very good) battle mech build and almost won just because no one plays this way so it wasn’t on Stats’ bingo card and it’s hard to adapt in realtime.
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