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Loved that they announced that just after the match ended..
Sundance Apology Regarding WCS Qualifiers - Page 12
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
game. And according to demuslim it was broadcasted in the wrong order. Loved that they announced that just after the match ended.. | ||
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pssuperZoro
United States4 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18042 Posts
On April 23 2013 10:54 Blargh wrote: Quality > Quantity. They should have just began WCS 2013 half-way through the year. Hell, Blizzard loves that whole "When it's ready!!11" motto. Why would abandon it? While it will leave quite a bitter taste for many, I think most people will get over their (very clear) faults. They are still better than EA for actually responding and addressing (well, sort of) the problems at hand. Blizzard is GREAT at making games. Outside of that ... they are not so good. I think their main motive for jamming this together so fast.. was to make sure SC2 was on TV in Korea 5 days per week. If someone knows more about this please jump in. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On April 23 2013 10:54 Blargh wrote: Quality > Quantity. They should have just began WCS 2013 half-way through the year. Hell, Blizzard loves that whole "When it's ready!!11" motto. Why would abandon it? While it will leave quite a bitter taste for many, I think most people will get over their (very clear) faults. They are still better than EA for actually responding and addressing (well, sort of) the problems at hand. Because their new motto is, "if it's not broken, break it! That way when we fix it we'll look like geniuses!" Look at bnet, you cant even right click on someone's name anymore -.-;; and where is dat name change? People are actually BEGGING to pay blizzard money to have a name change, i mean props to blizzard when they can actually have people beg to give them money | ||
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Torrnado
United States36 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
Comm not getting in over a bronzie sucks, but how are his actions even justifiable? If I can't play, I'll pretend to be someone who can? Even if the rules were not precisely translated too him, this seems like a pretty basic "dont do it" concept. Or do people think MLG should have just let it slide and just ignore it? It would have to be obvious eventually since instead of Fruits Basket showing up to the live matches, Comm would. | ||
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Acasta
27 Posts
On April 23 2013 11:07 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: The chinese incident is that Comm took over for FruitsBasket after round one and continued to play as FruitsBasket, then got DQ'd 1 round from qualifying? Everyone is in agreement that comm should have DQ'd, but sooner right? How did they figure out it was Comm in the first place? Could they have even found out sooner? If not what should the penalty have been because having a pro take over all push your account through a major tourney is pretty messed up. It screws up the integrity of the tournament from such a late DQ due to Zero tolerance for pro mercenary type work, but shouldnt people be pissed at Comm for doing this? Comm not getting in over a bronzie sucks, but how are his actions even justifiable? If I can't play, I'll pretend to be someone who can? Even if the rules were not precisely translated too him, this seems like a pretty basic "dont do it" concept. Or do people think MLG should have just let it slide and just ignore it? It would have to be obvious eventually since instead of Fruits Basket showing up to the live matches, Comm would. No one would have been surprised.... He was open about it from the beginning that he was Comm. DQing him in the last possible round although they had a flexible rule, especially with that backstory, was just the worst possible decision. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On April 23 2013 11:16 Acasta wrote: No one would have been surprised.... He was open about it from the beginning that he was Comm. DQing him in the last possible round although they had a flexible rule, especially with that backstory, was just the worst possible decision. Fruits Basket played the first round I thought then handed it off to Comm afterwards. IF it was Comm playing the whole time, thats one thing, but 2 different people playing 1 account in a tournament is shady just in principle. | ||
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semmeL
Germany85 Posts
On April 23 2013 11:07 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: The chinese incident is that Comm took over for FruitsBasket after round one and continued to play as FruitsBasket, then got DQ'd 1 round from qualifying? Everyone is in agreement that comm should have DQ'd, but sooner right? How did they figure out it was Comm in the first place? Could they have even found out sooner? If not what should the penalty have been because having a pro take over all push your account through a major tourney is pretty messed up. It screws up the integrity of the tournament from such a late DQ due to Zero tolerance for pro mercenary type work, but shouldnt people be pissed at Comm for doing this? Comm not getting in over a bronzie sucks, but how are his actions even justifiable? If I can't play, I'll pretend to be someone who can? Even if the rules were not precisely translated too him, this seems like a pretty basic "dont do it" concept. Or do people think MLG should have just let it slide and just ignore it? It would have to be obvious eventually since instead of Fruits Basket showing up to the live matches, Comm would. No not everyone think the same like u! Comm and many others should have got a secured spot in the 512man bracket like other NA pros did. And so MLG fucked up, even after the Teammanager contacted a MLG-Admin in advance and got the response that they are OK, and ready to go! So i dont see much problem with Comm just resorting to the last chance he had cause of incompentent, lying and not fast enough responding Admins (cause it seems they are: 1.Not informed of WCS-Regions from Year 2012 and their Champions or Top finisher. 2.Were way too few Admins there to begin with to handle something at this scale 3.After finding out cant make a proper decision based on the fuckups they already did). Ur fucked in WCS if u didnt even get into challenger in Season1 for this year as an established pro, they needed the exposure/money they could have got to plan this year in advance or get sponsors etc. theres alot on the line for these people. Thats all cause their ChallengerQualifier is somewhat Invite only based on the Premier (fucked up, maybe not even legitimate qualifier anymore) Qualifier... So i think MLG did as bad as they couldve possibly done, cause they just didnt put enough manpower behind this WCS project at all. I hope they now pay for it, cause u cant tell me u didnt expect more than 512player to sign up... no excuses here! I hope the Chinese, Australia and any other screwed over Regions get some kind of "compensation" for this. | ||
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States758 Posts
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
On April 23 2013 11:20 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Fruits Basket played the first round I thought then handed it off to Comm afterwards. IF it was Comm playing the whole time, thats one thing, but 2 different people playing 1 account in a tournament is shady just in principle. Thats not how it went down, Comm played every game, just under his friends (MLG) account, he was open about it right from the start | ||
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
On April 23 2013 11:27 mordk wrote: Wait why is this becoming a Blizzard hating thread now? Blizzard trusted MLG with their project, they did it the way they though best, and they made some horrible mistakes. How is this Blizzard's fault? It's like if an employee messes up, the supervisor gets in trouble. Yes MLG ran it. Yes MLG screwed it up. But ultimately it's Blizzard's WCS. | ||
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thebigdonkey
United States354 Posts
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On April 23 2013 11:20 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Fruits Basket played the first round I thought then handed it off to Comm afterwards. IF it was Comm playing the whole time, thats one thing, but 2 different people playing 1 account in a tournament is shady just in principle. Don't misleading again please. It's comm playing from the start and he is quite frank from the start. Even the opponents and casters know it's Comm playing. So stop making excuses for MLG. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On April 23 2013 08:11 Fluffboll wrote: Are you seriously buying this? This is as standard of an apology letter as an apology letter can be. It touches on next to none of the issues people had with the event and offers nothing in the way of what they are going to do to try and fix any of this shit. If you look at Mister Sundances tweets you'll also know that this "apology" is just a PR trick with no sincerity behind it at all. Can MLG make it better in the future? sure but nothing will fix this trainwreck of an event. Exactly. This is a standard apology letter that can be used in any situation. It states nothing and it apologize for nothing. It didn't touch the surface of the actual mistakes and how they gonna fix and prevent it. It this is the attitude of MLG. I would personally guarantee that they will messed it up happened again and again. | ||
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Frankenberry
Denmark302 Posts
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robopork
United States511 Posts
They fucked up and owned it. There's really nothing more you can ask, except maybe a gesture to pro's who got edged out by people who play like me (and logistically, that's just not possible). But hey, if you've got the time and energy to hold a grudge, good for you. I sure don't. | ||
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