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Sundance Apology Regarding WCS Qualifiers - Page 10

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EZSkull
Profile Joined March 2011
United States230 Posts
April 23 2013 00:22 GMT
#181
Well they admitted this tournament was a complete clusterF**k and YET, somehow, this tournament is going be used for the Challenger series... GG... No RE
“I can discredit the K-1 with two syllables. Bob Sapp.” - Sonnen(R)
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
April 23 2013 00:23 GMT
#182
An apology that didn't really address any of the actual issues. Guess they're not going to fix any of the mistakes, just kind of half-assedly acknowledge them.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 23 2013 00:25 GMT
#183
Sundance gets it.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
April 23 2013 00:26 GMT
#184
On April 23 2013 09:00 Hrrrrm wrote:
Don't worry guys the shit storm is still coming. You got screwed in the Premier Qualifier and think you have another chance this season?

Think again.

Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 02:01 MLG Deimos wrote:

There will be a 2nd invite only qualifier next weekend to decide the 16 players entering the challenger league.

9th-40th from the Qualifying Tournament 1, will get an invite the 2nd qualifier.


Should be 4 separate qualifiers where the Top 4 make it in from each. No invites, completely open. Stop with the invite garbage please.


So chinese/Sea players that couldnt get in because of the 512 limit cant join the challenger qualifier?

Not to mention players like Catz who loses to a hacker, and now cant try to qualify for challenger?, Or playersthat lost to hyun or comm, other dq'd players.

This seems so very stupid.
Apack
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada159 Posts
April 23 2013 00:28 GMT
#185
Wow, a paragraph of text. I guess that will solve everything...
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#186
On April 23 2013 09:19 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 09:13 StarStruck wrote:
On April 23 2013 09:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On April 23 2013 09:04 StarStruck wrote:
On April 23 2013 09:02 Assirra wrote:
On April 23 2013 08:20 critique wrote:
Credit where its due; recognizing and admitting the problems is exactly the right thing to do. Thanks Sundance.

You get credit when you do something, not when you say something.


Yup.

On April 23 2013 09:02 Grobyc wrote:
Well written apology, but still doesn't change anything for the number of people that were screwed over. Not that there's particularly anything I ask of them to rectify it, but this doesn't "let them off the hook" for the stuff that happened.

It can only improve from here right... ?


Given their track record I think we'll keep finding ourselves in the woods. Try to keep it in the fairway please. No one likes the rough!


Their track record from Dallas 11' to now is actually pretty damn good. Going by that, if your still in the woods it is because your a stubborn tree rooted in your soil of rage.


I could list a lot more than that and if you call that rage. Gee, you've seen nothing yet.


Go for it.


Remember the time they changed their pricing model and how they announced it to their subscribers?
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
April 23 2013 00:31 GMT
#187
Yeah, nah. Not supporting MLG anymore
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
April 23 2013 00:34 GMT
#188
Terrible apology. MLG is garbage and its a damn shame NASL didn't get the contract.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 23 2013 00:35 GMT
#189
I'm personally getting tired of, to quote Bill Maher "[...]a bad product well apologized for is superior in this country to a good product."
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
April 23 2013 00:36 GMT
#190
On April 23 2013 09:26 SMD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 09:00 Hrrrrm wrote:
Don't worry guys the shit storm is still coming. You got screwed in the Premier Qualifier and think you have another chance this season?

Think again.

On April 20 2013 02:01 MLG Deimos wrote:

There will be a 2nd invite only qualifier next weekend to decide the 16 players entering the challenger league.

9th-40th from the Qualifying Tournament 1, will get an invite the 2nd qualifier.


Should be 4 separate qualifiers where the Top 4 make it in from each. No invites, completely open. Stop with the invite garbage please.


So chinese/Sea players that couldnt get in because of the 512 limit cant join the challenger qualifier?

Not to mention players like Catz who loses to a hacker, and now cant try to qualify for challenger?, Or playersthat lost to hyun or comm, other dq'd players.

This seems so very stupid.


yep...pretty awful.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
April 23 2013 00:36 GMT
#191
I appreciate the apologies Sundance, but please make sure the tournament runs smoothly from now on.

The community needs to look forward now. They can't possibly do this again unless they have a time machine.
anova
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5 Posts
April 23 2013 00:38 GMT
#192
The whole disgusting act towards Chinese players/Comm DQ is still not addressed. Until then I will tell all my friends to boycott MLG.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 23 2013 00:41 GMT
#193
rofl more or less 100% what was expected. straight generic apology.
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DurandaL917
Profile Joined December 2010
United States92 Posts
April 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#194
MLG has a pretty solid record of making mistakes and then fixing them. Best example was them going out and buying a satellite truck after that failed MLG (Dallas?). I'll agree it's a tiresome pattern but the product has continued to improve ...
we make post and then we defense it
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
April 23 2013 00:48 GMT
#195
I hope the guy from China that got DQ'd feels better about all of this now -.-
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
lyu30
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia3 Posts
April 23 2013 00:52 GMT
#196
Dont apologize all the time. Fix the issues!!!
Nowhere but there
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
April 23 2013 00:56 GMT
#197
MLG fucked up badly in a way that hugely affected player's careers and in China's case, an entire scene. Yet it's not even mentioned in their generic apology. Blizzard chose such a shitty partner just for the brand recognition and it just did immediate and irreparable damage to the scene. It was obvious this would happen which is the most upsetting thing about it. Blizzard have good intentions but they are really obviously too incompetent to be running the scene. We were better off without them.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 23 2013 01:02 GMT
#198
Kudos for actually making a statement, i suppose. But you aren't even acknowledging or addressing the issues that the community is most upset about.. Not only that but you title it "How we will improve" but give no examples of what you are doing to improve! So, to me, you still don't have a clue what went wrong or how to improve it. Disappointing to say the least.
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
April 23 2013 01:02 GMT
#199
Blizzard needs to help the China's case right now or all hope is lost.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 23 2013 01:04 GMT
#200
I feel bad for MLG they made some pretty big mistakes but why is blizzard not saying/doing anything to help especially when they just hired all of IPL who have a lot of esports experience.

Hopefully something can be done to some of the players who missed out, mainly the Chinese guys with some code A seeds or something,
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