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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 14 2012 10:33 GMT
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Q: What is this thread?

A: General purpose, SC2 discussion thread.

Q: What should I be posting about?
A: Basically, anything you want to talk about but aren't sure if it warrants a topic of its own. Heard a rumour you want to share? A new video? A question you are sure is super common but can't find the answer to via searching? A brilliant new idea that you want to vet, to make sure it's really as brilliant as you think it is?

This is the place.


Note:
Posting standards will not be as high as if you were to make a new thread, but pointless spam will still not be tolerated. I have seen threads like these work out alright on other sites (for other games) so I figured, why not give it a shot? It's possible there's not really enough content for something like this to exist at this point in time, but no harm then, it will just die on its own.

Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
July 14 2012 10:54 GMT
#2
I think its interesting to see tvz evolve with the latest GSTL matches (talking specifically about Alive's games).

Even tho I feel the latest zerg buffs unbalanced the matchup, it is nice to see some pros making the best of it.


The KR scene in general seems lively, with KESPA joining the sc2 scene, many teams getting new sponsors, and ST getting whole new teams. I seemed to have missed the "crossover" games that people keep talking about, anyone got a link?
Toastie.NL
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands232 Posts
July 14 2012 11:06 GMT
#3
Something just jumped my mind,

Ghost Snipe was nerfed way to hard because it countered both T3 options Zerg has.

High Templar Feedback/Storm counters both T3 options as well as T1 options from Terran.

How would TvP lategame look with Feedback not working vs Massive?
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-Kira
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
352 Posts
July 14 2012 11:13 GMT
#4
On July 14 2012 20:06 Toastie.NL wrote:
Something just jumped my mind,

Ghost Snipe was nerfed way to hard because it countered both T3 options Zerg has.

High Templar Feedback/Storm counters both T3 options as well as T1 options from Terran.

How would TvP lategame look with Feedback not working vs Massive?


Nothing would change. Protoss isn't supposed to feedback anything after 15 min mark in the game when the ghosts are out.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 13:36:51
July 14 2012 11:15 GMT
#5
Rereading last months Dustin Browder interview makes me wonder if LotV is going to resemble Starcraft at all.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Garby
Profile Joined August 2011
United States16 Posts
July 14 2012 11:17 GMT
#6
On July 14 2012 20:06 Toastie.NL wrote:
Something just jumped my mind,

Ghost Snipe was nerfed way to hard because it countered both T3 options Zerg has.

High Templar Feedback/Storm counters both T3 options as well as T1 options from Terran.

How would TvP lategame look with Feedback not working vs Massive?

I don't know that Feedback would change much versus Battlecruisers, given that I rarely see anyone make them - and when I do, they're usually pretty crap anyway. Sometimes they can accomplish things in TvT but even then the last time I saw anyone make them it was in a GOMTV game and they got jacked by mass vikings.

Thors, on the other hand, might be a lot more useful if they couldn't get instagibbed by Feedback, but you're still dealing with the whole, "Mech isn't great vs P" problem where you have to split upgrades. So... I guess the answer is that I don't see this nerf doing much.


I have a question myself. I keep hearing about the KESPA players doing SC2 games, but when I see their games half the time they're in super poor quality YouTube videos, such as this one (Jaedong holding a 10 pool from Soulkey -
which actually hurt my eyes to try and watch. Is there a subscription like GSL that I can get to find good quality Kespa vids - or for that matter, is there even a Kespa equivalent to Gomtv's website? A large part of the value I get from my GSL subs is the fact that it's very very easy to pull up vods in order on their site, in [decent, not great] video quality.
Toastie.NL
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands232 Posts
July 14 2012 11:20 GMT
#7
Feedback not instagibbing Thors could create a dynamic of Thor meatshields (take no splash, Immortals suck vs barracks units lategame, etcetc) in which MMMGhostThor would be the lategame mix this the MMM dps'ing behind massive Thor HP.

500HP thors could do this, 300HP Thors, not so much... And dont forget you cna get up to +3 vehicle Plating this way!
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Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
July 14 2012 12:14 GMT
#8
Anyone know who is the current EU rank1 gm?
His account does look like its smurf and he has insane improvement rate troughout seasons. He never plays custom games only ladder. Its so strange account :X. Any ideas?

http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1613286/lIllIllIllII
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany628 Posts
July 15 2012 01:17 GMT
#9
no feedback on thors would be pretty cool.

here is what i think:

lategame terran with MMMVG+tanks does not equal the other races maxed T3 armies but we still get forced into playing it. mostly because mech is not viable during the early game, due to its imense gas cost, thus forcing bio play which doesn´t transition smoothly into mech play since you need separate upgrades and production facilities.

-to efficiently play mech on 2 bases you need atleast 3 factories with 3 addons and an armory.
that is 500 gas just for infrastructure and you havent even gotten any units out at this point.

-you dont have an appropriate mineral dump. hellions are nice to have but they dont win battles.
getting marines to support your mech play does only work for the very early stages of the game when marines can be effective without any upgrades. after that, they become a liability because upgrading them does cut into our gas.

if there is a patch coming, I would like to see it, either slightly reducing the gas cost and build time of factories, or greatly reducing the gas cost of armories.

ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
July 15 2012 01:20 GMT
#10
On July 14 2012 20:06 Toastie.NL wrote:
Something just jumped my mind,

Ghost Snipe was nerfed way to hard because it countered both T3 options Zerg has.

High Templar Feedback/Storm counters both T3 options as well as T1 options from Terran.

How would TvP lategame look with Feedback not working vs Massive?

Because EMP negates feedback.

Zerg did not have something to negate Snipe.
Swedish GM Protoss http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2336142/1/MilkEA/
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 13:36:15
July 15 2012 12:57 GMT
#11
Is anyone else not able to log in or find match right now?

I got out of a ladder game and then I got that swirling thing in the middle of the screen, and it wouldnt go away.
So I logged out and now I cant get past the screen where it says enter.

Hope I`m not the only one or you guys know how to fix it.

Edit***
So apparently its only on my main account. Does this mean I am banned or something? I cant think of a reason I should be banned.
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
July 15 2012 14:01 GMT
#12
I can't get online either gogators
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
megid
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 14:38:05
July 15 2012 14:37 GMT
#13
On July 14 2012 20:06 Toastie.NL wrote:
I have a question myself. I keep hearing about the KESPA players doing SC2 games, but when I see their games half the time they're in super poor quality YouTube videos.....


I have this doubt too. I don't know if Kespa really cares about us, but i would like to see one quality english casting of their sc2 tournaments. Any1 knows something about it?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 15 2012 14:56 GMT
#14
On July 15 2012 23:37 megid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 20:06 Toastie.NL wrote:
I have a question myself. I keep hearing about the KESPA players doing SC2 games, but when I see their games half the time they're in super poor quality YouTube videos.....


I have this doubt too. I don't know if Kespa really cares about us, but i would like to see one quality english casting of their sc2 tournaments. Any1 knows something about it?


I think the only tournament with KeSPA players so far was the 8-man MLG KeSPA Invitational back at MLG Anaheim. Besides that, they've so far only played Proleague, and will play the upcoming (not sure if there'll be a stream) OSL Qualifiers.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 15:01:36
July 15 2012 14:57 GMT
#15
On July 15 2012 21:57 gogatorsfoster wrote:
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Is anyone else not able to log in or find match right now?

I got out of a ladder game and then I got that swirling thing in the middle of the screen, and it wouldnt go away.
So I logged out and now I cant get past the screen where it says enter.

Hope I`m not the only one or you guys know how to fix it.

Edit***
So apparently its only on my main account. Does this mean I am banned or something? I cant think of a reason I should be banned.

Have you tried logging into battle.net (the actual site)? It should tell you there if your account is banned.

This seems relevant for you vvv
On July 15 2012 23:24 Scorevath wrote:
I think Blizz is having issues right now. A lot of people are complaining about this or a similar issue where your SC2 account seemingly doesn't exist. Right now when I log in it shows a blank portrait and won't let me get past the log in. I also can't view my account on b.net. It just errors.

I called Tech Support and they said they hadn't hear about it but based on how the forums were blowing up they expected a fix soon.

우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
July 15 2012 15:06 GMT
#16
On July 15 2012 23:57 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 21:57 gogatorsfoster wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Is anyone else not able to log in or find match right now?

I got out of a ladder game and then I got that swirling thing in the middle of the screen, and it wouldnt go away.
So I logged out and now I cant get past the screen where it says enter.

Hope I`m not the only one or you guys know how to fix it.

Edit***
So apparently its only on my main account. Does this mean I am banned or something? I cant think of a reason I should be banned.

Have you tried logging into battle.net (the actual site)? It should tell you there if your account is banned.

This seems relevant for you vvv
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 23:24 Scorevath wrote:
I think Blizz is having issues right now. A lot of people are complaining about this or a similar issue where your SC2 account seemingly doesn't exist. Right now when I log in it shows a blank portrait and won't let me get past the log in. I also can't view my account on b.net. It just errors.

I called Tech Support and they said they hadn't hear about it but based on how the forums were blowing up they expected a fix soon.



Thanks for the info. No I`m not banned I`m in the same boat as everyone else is apparently.
M7Jagger
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden237 Posts
July 15 2012 23:56 GMT
#17
How come there are no black progamers?
Brace your're selves. Grammar, nazis are Coming
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 00:04:32
July 16 2012 00:04 GMT
#18
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?


Dunno for black ones, but I've seen mixed race ones. I think MaximusBlack is kinda a recent example. Well, I don't know how he exactly thinks of his ethnicity, but his skin is much darker than mine, so I just assumed that.
xPabt
Profile Joined February 2012
226 Posts
July 16 2012 01:58 GMT
#19
Are the brackets for MLG Arena going to be released before the event or are they not set yet?
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 02:04:05
July 16 2012 02:03 GMT
#20
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?


There are plenty, but not in the RTS community. Most of them seem to be in the fighting game community.
ghindo
Profile Joined March 2012
United States58 Posts
July 16 2012 04:58 GMT
#21
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?

I've always been curious about the demographics of different gaming communities. The fighting game community always seems a lot more diverse than the RTS community, but I'm not sure why. Accessibility? Culture? Does BM language drive people away? I wish I could see a study on this.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 16 2012 06:52 GMT
#22
Lol, fighting game community is pretty hardcore when it comes to bm I think, compared to the RTS community
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
tsango
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia214 Posts
July 16 2012 08:11 GMT
#23
On July 16 2012 13:58 ghindo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?

I've always been curious about the demographics of different gaming communities. The fighting game community always seems a lot more diverse than the RTS community, but I'm not sure why. Accessibility? Culture? Does BM language drive people away? I wish I could see a study on this.



Without any hard evidence to support it, I've always felt as though console FPS's had the worst BM mainly because of the demographic they attract. I have certainly seen some pretty serious DOTA BM's/Rages though
If you dont like something, then that should be reason enough to try and change it
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
July 16 2012 09:19 GMT
#24
So, with both NASL, Dreamhack and Homestory won by foreigners, do you think that we're seeing a more level playing field between the foreign scene and the Korean one?
Coffeeling
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland250 Posts
July 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#25
On July 16 2012 13:58 ghindo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?

I've always been curious about the demographics of different gaming communities. The fighting game community always seems a lot more diverse than the RTS community, but I'm not sure why. Accessibility? Culture? Does BM language drive people away? I wish I could see a study on this.


A long piece, but should shed some light on potential reasons as to why:
http://shoryuken.com/2011/12/12/guest-editorial-momentum-matters-a-historical-perspective-on-the-fgc-and-esports-communities-2/
Squee
Repent702
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1 Post
July 16 2012 12:01 GMT
#26
I would like to know if spam queuing the harvesters to return cargo will increase their efficiency by 7% ish as before? I tried this and watched it closely in an AI match to check if it hasn't been changed in anyway and am not seeing much of a difference. I watch the pro replays and notice the 100+ APM with a lot of harvester interaction so I am wondering... Thank you in advance for any responses! -Repent from Vegas
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
July 16 2012 12:27 GMT
#27
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?


Aphromoo is a professional LoL player who is also in the top 0.01% of League ladder, and the fighting game community also has a lot of famous black professionals. As far as SC2 Devo is the only famous black SC2 player I know of, but he's not a pro.
M7Jagger
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden237 Posts
July 16 2012 13:03 GMT
#28
Why is it so that Terran has to stutter step while protoss only has to a-move with their units?

User was temp banned for this post.
Brace your're selves. Grammar, nazis are Coming
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:15:34
July 16 2012 14:10 GMT
#29
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I had a good night of sleep.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
July 16 2012 14:27 GMT
#30
Something like this has been purposed in the past but not discussed enough I think.

Basically I'd like fungal to be changed so that it requires more micro from the zerg and his enemy.
Here's a video of a fungal being a missile + Show Spoiler +
( not my video)
Note that in the video, where the fungal is targetted the missile will explode, in essence it can actually pass marines. I would change this missile to hit on impact. This would first, make zerg aim the fungals and second his enemy would have to dodge. The speed of the missile could be changed, I think it's quite alright in the video shown.

Imagine MKP invididually sending his marines to block the fungals from hitting all of his marines, while moving the bulk of the army away from the infestors..would be glorious. Evenly for the zerg as he would have to predict where the enemy is moving and try to hit in such a way that most of the units are hit by fungal.

I don't see many flaws in this change, you can argue that it's a nerf, which it is but it can be neglected by player's skill.
It would add an interesting dynamic of aiming/dodging, rearranging armies to block fungals etc.

The only negative I can think of it is that is too similiar to EMP, and this is quite big I think because we want races to be different.

So my next purposal would be to maybe make Fungal like a delayed aoe-spell. Like green moss would sprout from the ground and then after X seconds( 0,5 perhaps?), the FG goes into effect. This could be interesting as well, zerg would force the enemy into moving, the fungals wouldn't neccessarily even have to hit as forcing the enemy into unfavorable positions could be better for flanks.

Also I'd like to make EMP a bit slower so as to add more in-battle micro/reaction based moves.

I don't really think FG or EMP or anything else is imba, but I think they should require more skill to use and give the enemy to react(which has been mentioned a million times i know).

Any thoughts? Would Blizzard add something like this? Why wouldn't they? Is it changing the gameplay too much? Is it too "arcade-ish" and not enough RTS-ish?

Any comments would be welcome.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
SpurvL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden345 Posts
July 16 2012 15:45 GMT
#31
On July 16 2012 21:27 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?


Aphromoo is a professional LoL player who is also in the top 0.01% of League ladder, and the fighting game community also has a lot of famous black professionals. As far as SC2 Devo is the only famous black SC2 player I know of, but he's not a pro.


(Z)DeVo is black?
Naniwa, ThorZaiN, SaSe, DeMusliM, White-RA... Where are my Zerg heroes?.. Stephano <3
Rudermensch
Profile Joined April 2011
United States50 Posts
July 16 2012 20:29 GMT
#32
Hey there, I lurk a lot and was looking for a thread on HotS to comment on some ideas but couldn't find one. I hope this is the right place.

I had an idea regarding the proposed Ultralisk changes in the multiplayer. Now, of course we haven't as a community had a chance to play the game yet, but as I understand things the burrow-charge ability is being considered as a means of allowing Ultralisks to close in on kiting units (esp: Terran). As an added effect, it disrupts positioning and randomly moves the units it erupts under within a certain radius of the eruption point. The last part of the ability I think is potentially problematic, but I'm going to ignore it as no one has really had a chance to play it yet.

If the problem is that the Ultralisk has issues with pathing and being able to close on units wouldn't a simpler solution be to alter the pathing of the Ultralisk in a manner similar to the way the Colossus is able to move over units? If the Ultralisk were able to walk over/through units such as Zerglings/Banelings and possibly Roaches and Hydras it would allow the unit not to get stuck on smaller units, fit better with it being as massive as it is supposed to be, and it would still be able to hit given it has a range of 1 so that it can attack over other melee units. It wouldn't entirely solve the issue of kiting but it would help the Ultralisk gain positioning on armies if the Zerglings/Banelings were able to swarm over their feet and not block the Ultralisk or vice-versa.

I'd like to get some thoughts on this, especially if it's been proposed before, or to have it moved to its own topic if it warrants.
It's like looking into the eye of a duck and sucking all the fluid from its beak.
StarcraftGuy4U
Profile Joined May 2010
United States74 Posts
July 16 2012 21:54 GMT
#33
Give ultralisks a charge move like zealots (with an upgrade) that paths through units. Ultralisks would be really OP if they could walk over everything. Right now really the only bad thing about them is that they can't chase at all and their pathing is horrible. When they actually connect it's devastating. Leenock VS. MKP in the IGN team league I think? He was wiping out swathes of marines!
ghindo
Profile Joined March 2012
United States58 Posts
July 16 2012 22:21 GMT
#34
On July 16 2012 19:49 Coffee Zombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 13:58 ghindo wrote:
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?

I've always been curious about the demographics of different gaming communities. The fighting game community always seems a lot more diverse than the RTS community, but I'm not sure why. Accessibility? Culture? Does BM language drive people away? I wish I could see a study on this.


A long piece, but should shed some light on potential reasons as to why:
http://shoryuken.com/2011/12/12/guest-editorial-momentum-matters-a-historical-perspective-on-the-fgc-and-esports-communities-2/
Interesting read! Thanks for posting
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
July 17 2012 00:57 GMT
#35
This is a question that has probably been asked a hundred times before, but I've searched on the forum, Liquipedia and Battle.net without finding an answer, and I hope you can be patient with another noob. I'm in Silver league and my division name is Colossus Beta. I've heard that divisions of a league are "harder" and "easier", with more skilled players in some. According to Liquipedia, divisions are ranked with numbers, but mine has a name. Liquipedia also shows tiers in Diamond league with different letters, but I can't find anything like that. I'm just curious, is there a way to find out whether or not I'm in a higher or lower silver division? Does it actually mean something?

And I'm really happy that I just hit silver. It probably doesn't seem like much for you experienced players but I finally feel like I have some sort of progress
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 12:00:44
July 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#36
Someone should make a hardcover, really nicely-bound, publishing of all of Liquipedia II

I was just thinking that would be really sick, and perhaps a new edition annually or diannually is that a word
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Deadp00l
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1 Post
July 17 2012 17:15 GMT
#37
On July 17 2012 21:00 Vei wrote:
Someone should make a hardcover, really nicely-bound, publishing of all of Liquipedia II

I was just thinking that would be really sick, and perhaps a new edition annually or diannually is that a word


Diannually isn't a word, I think you mean biannually. It really depends on whether you mean twice a year (biannually, semiannually) or once every two years (biennial).
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
July 17 2012 21:26 GMT
#38
On July 18 2012 02:15 Deadp00l wrote:
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On July 17 2012 21:00 Vei wrote:
Someone should make a hardcover, really nicely-bound, publishing of all of Liquipedia II

I was just thinking that would be really sick, and perhaps a new edition annually or diannually is that a word


Diannually isn't a word, I think you mean biannually. It really depends on whether you mean twice a year (biannually, semiannually) or once every two years (biennial).

yeah biennial is what i was looking for :B
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
July 18 2012 05:44 GMT
#39
do you guys remember the sc2 custom map that is called world of starcraft , and was forced to be renamed? Is that UMS published yet and what is it called
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
slimcognito2012
Profile Joined May 2011
United States29 Posts
July 18 2012 20:56 GMT
#40
On July 17 2012 00:45 SpurvL wrote:
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On July 16 2012 21:27 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?


Aphromoo is a professional LoL player who is also in the top 0.01% of League ladder, and the fighting game community also has a lot of famous black professionals. As far as SC2 Devo is the only famous black SC2 player I know of, but he's not a pro.


(Z)DeVo is black?

I think he means Debo, Destiny's friend
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
July 18 2012 21:08 GMT
#41
On July 16 2012 22:03 M7Jagger wrote:
Why is it so that Terran has to stutter step while protoss only has to a-move with their units?

User was temp banned for this post.

Because while terrans seek to avoid confrontation with protoss melee units they have to move backwards, the only way to still do dmg while doing this is when you stutterstep, or simply move backwards inbetween volleys. Protoss however is seeking the head on battle, because their melee unit, the zealot, is very powerfull if it can reach its target.

In later battles however you will often see the terran prefering to spreading rather than stutterstepping. This is to negate aoe dmg and maximize dps as terran ranged units benefit alot from a good concave.
"NO" -Has
shizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia127 Posts
July 19 2012 11:40 GMT
#42
On July 16 2012 17:11 tsango wrote:
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On July 16 2012 13:58 ghindo wrote:
On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?

I've always been curious about the demographics of different gaming communities. The fighting game community always seems a lot more diverse than the RTS community, but I'm not sure why. Accessibility? Culture? Does BM language drive people away? I wish I could see a study on this.



Without any hard evidence to support it, I've always felt as though console FPS's had the worst BM mainly because of the demographic they attract. I have certainly seen some pretty serious DOTA BM's/Rages though


While i've never gotten into online console fps, that seems pretty believable when you take into account your point heh.
From my own personal experience, i'd have to say the MOBA community can definitely be harsh at times. No tolerance for beginners which stems from the fact it is designed to be a heavily team based game I guess.

I don't play a heap of ladder, but when I do, I generally find most people to be mannered or simply lack any bm (SEA). Also a few days ago, I had a guy compliment me when I won a game fairly convincingly on the NA server, maybe I just attract friendly people..
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
July 20 2012 06:36 GMT
#43
So does anyone know why DRG just completely fell apart in the semi-finals last night? They were some of the saddest games I've seen in a while :\

My best theory I can think of is that Genius's absence is making him weaker against Protoss and may also contribute to a lack of friendly but competitive motivation...
"En taro adun, Executor."
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
July 20 2012 15:27 GMT
#44
Hi guys

I have been following SC2 for a while now, but still do not understand how GSL works...and yes, I have read many times the TL wiki and still don't get it.

Ok, basically my knowledge of GSL is this.

-Its the biggest/most prestigious tournamentin SC2. Biggest prize pool also.
-the Seasons...I dont understand this, I checked TL wiki and it says from january to june 2012 alone, there are 3 seasons... how long is each season? And how long is the break between each season?
-I thought MKP was in Code A? So, I checked the wiki and it says he is still in code S? WOw confusing ><

- How does one get promoted/demoted to code S/A respectively?
- I am just confused with how GSL works.......I see the past winners of GSL like Nestea, MVP, DRG, etc. When is this? If there are 3 seasons in january to june alone, so the winner of each season can be declared "the winner of GSL"?

Thank you so much. I hope to understand soon.
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 15:45:00
July 20 2012 15:41 GMT
#45
On July 21 2012 00:27 dynwar7 wrote:
Hi guys

I have been following SC2 for a while now, but still do not understand how GSL works...and yes, I have read many times the TL wiki and still don't get it.

Ok, basically my knowledge of GSL is this.

-Its the biggest/most prestigious tournamentin SC2. Biggest prize pool also.
-the Seasons...I dont understand this, I checked TL wiki and it says from january to june 2012 alone, there are 3 seasons... how long is each season? And how long is the break between each season?
-I thought MKP was in Code A? So, I checked the wiki and it says he is still in code S? WOw confusing ><

- How does one get promoted/demoted to code S/A respectively?
- I am just confused with how GSL works.......I see the past winners of GSL like Nestea, MVP, DRG, etc. When is this? If there are 3 seasons in january to june alone, so the winner of each season can be declared "the winner of GSL"?

Thank you so much. I hope to understand soon.


1. The seasons run about 2 months long. The break between seasons is only usually a week long or so.

2. A player is considered Code A or S depending on where they end the season. Since Marineking began the season in Code S, he isn't considered to be in Code A unless he ends the season in Code A, by failing in the up and down matches.

3. Think of Code A and Code S in the GSL as one big tournament as opposed to two separate ones. They are very similar to winner's and loser's brackets in foreign tournaments, the difference is that someone who begins a season in Code A can never win the Code S championship that same season, the highest reward that a Code A player can earn is being promoted to Code S. You can be promoted in two ways.

The first way is that you win all of your matches in Code A and advance past the round of 24. The 12 winners from the round of 24 in Code A automatically advance to Code S.

The second way to get promoted to Code S is by placing first or second in the up and down match groups. To qualify for the up and down matches you need to simply make it past the first round of Code A. Your position in the tournament prior to making it to the up and down matches determines your seeding for grouping purposes.

As far as demotions go, the only people guaranteed a spot in Code S in consecutive seasons are those who make it to the round of 8. Everyone else that is eliminated from the Code S tournament falls to varying levels of the Code A tournament depending on where in the tournament they were eliminated.

It is possible to fall from Code S to Code B if someone loses in the first round of both tournaments back to back.

It is a pretty confusing format at first but you get used to it. This flow chart helps a lot to understand it.

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4. We are currently in Season 3 of GSL 2012. GSL ran all through 2011 and late 2010 also. The seasons were shorter back then as the tournament followed a different format from the one currently in use. Despite the format changes, the rule still follows that once you are a champion of GSL you are always a champion of GSL. the format changes don't diminish your accomplishment.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
July 20 2012 16:51 GMT
#46
Thank you very much for detailed answers.

So, when fruitdealer, nestea, MC (?), MVP, DRG, all won their GSL titles, what does it mean? IS it just simply them winning a season, does not matter which one? Each season is just as prestigious as the other seasons right? There is no one big season where the winner can be declared GSL champion? Basically to be called GSL champion you just need to win Code S in any season, right? if that is the case, there can be many many GSL winners in 1 year?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 17:08:49
July 20 2012 17:02 GMT
#47
On July 21 2012 01:51 dynwar7 wrote:
Thank you very much for detailed answers.

So, when fruitdealer, nestea, MC (?), MVP, DRG, all won their GSL titles, what does it mean? IS it just simply them winning a season, does not matter which one? Each season is just as prestigious as the other seasons right? There is no one big season where the winner can be declared GSL champion? Basically to be called GSL champion you just need to win Code S in any season, right? if that is the case, there can be many many GSL winners in 1 year?


Correct.

The community doesn't usually attach more prestige to different seasons, although most of us consider recent championships more relevant than older ones when comparing the skill level of current players.

But like I said before, once a Code S champion, always a Code S champion. There are multiple GSL winners in 1 year the same with every major tournament event.

It helps just for conversation purposes to know which GSL season a player won their title, but it isn't really all that important. The achievement is such a huge accomplishment that the title of champ or former champ follows the players wherever they go.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 01:16:46
July 21 2012 01:16 GMT
#48
Hello gentlemen and women,

I am wondering where I can find large quantities of replays featuring protoss players. These need to be masters or above from this patch. As a recent unemployed college graduate it is definitely time to start playing starcraft II again, and I want to get a feel of what is going on in this game without playing a shitload of games first. If anyone wants to send me a pack that is cool too

Thanks for the help!
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
July 21 2012 02:26 GMT
#49
On July 21 2012 02:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 01:51 dynwar7 wrote:
Thank you very much for detailed answers.

So, when fruitdealer, nestea, MC (?), MVP, DRG, all won their GSL titles, what does it mean? IS it just simply them winning a season, does not matter which one? Each season is just as prestigious as the other seasons right? There is no one big season where the winner can be declared GSL champion? Basically to be called GSL champion you just need to win Code S in any season, right? if that is the case, there can be many many GSL winners in 1 year?


Correct.

The community doesn't usually attach more prestige to different seasons, although most of us consider recent championships more relevant than older ones when comparing the skill level of current players.

But like I said before, once a Code S champion, always a Code S champion. There are multiple GSL winners in 1 year the same with every major tournament event.

It helps just for conversation purposes to know which GSL season a player won their title, but it isn't really all that important. The achievement is such a huge accomplishment that the title of champ or former champ follows the players wherever they go.



ahhh...haha thank you vindicare. All this time I thought that GSL was like football world cup.....held once in 1 year (i know football is 4, but i mean i thought it was held once in a while, not every season).

Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
fak3side
Profile Joined July 2012
Chile4 Posts
July 21 2012 09:37 GMT
#50
i use to watch sc2 matches as my personal hobbie since last year. a week ago, i was thinking in the extractor trick when i realize that is possible to being oversupply, that in fact was a tech i have never seen in my sc2 watching experience but two day later i saw ret using it and this was my face ._________________.
learn to macro!!
Ajaco92
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Norway152 Posts
July 21 2012 14:25 GMT
#51
Hi. Does anyone know where to start looking if I want a replay pack from a pro protoss? Replays from the last month would be preferable.

I'm planning on doing some research, but I havn't really ever downloaded replays before, so I wouldn't know where to start looking. Any advise? And if a protoss pro recently released a replay pack, I would be immensely grateful to take a look at them.

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction
What doesnt kill you make your race OP.
Maldzar
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada33 Posts
July 21 2012 22:08 GMT
#52
Hi. Does anyone know where to start looking if I want a replay pack from a pro protoss? Replays from the last month would be preferable.

I'm planning on doing some research, but I havn't really ever downloaded replays before, so I wouldn't know where to start looking. Any advise? And if a protoss pro recently released a replay pack, I would be immensely grateful to take a look at them.

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction


Start with www.teamliquidpro.net . Under the tap "replay", they release pro replay packs on a fairly schedule basis. Here's a HerO replay pack : http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2012/06/13/razer-replaypack-of-the-week-37-hero

I'm sure you can find older replays if you look hard enough.
EH?
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 22:16:53
July 21 2012 22:09 GMT
#53
(Sorry, wrong thread.)
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
July 22 2012 17:15 GMT
#54
just because the question about accounts per league appeared in this threat http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354908
i made a simple chart

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"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
dLSilvertone
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1 Post
July 23 2012 02:51 GMT
#55


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spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
July 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#56
On July 16 2012 23:27 Andr3 wrote:
Something like this has been purposed in the past but not discussed enough I think.

Basically I'd like fungal to be changed so that it requires more micro from the zerg and his enemy.
Here's a video of a fungal being a missile + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PjfJQ04H9I
( not my video)
Note that in the video, where the fungal is targetted the missile will explode, in essence it can actually pass marines. I would change this missile to hit on impact. This would first, make zerg aim the fungals and second his enemy would have to dodge. The speed of the missile could be changed, I think it's quite alright in the video shown.

Imagine MKP invididually sending his marines to block the fungals from hitting all of his marines, while moving the bulk of the army away from the infestors..would be glorious. Evenly for the zerg as he would have to predict where the enemy is moving and try to hit in such a way that most of the units are hit by fungal.

I don't see many flaws in this change, you can argue that it's a nerf, which it is but it can be neglected by player's skill.
It would add an interesting dynamic of aiming/dodging, rearranging armies to block fungals etc.

The only negative I can think of it is that is too similiar to EMP, and this is quite big I think because we want races to be different.

So my next purposal would be to maybe make Fungal like a delayed aoe-spell. Like green moss would sprout from the ground and then after X seconds( 0,5 perhaps?), the FG goes into effect. This could be interesting as well, zerg would force the enemy into moving, the fungals wouldn't neccessarily even have to hit as forcing the enemy into unfavorable positions could be better for flanks.

Also I'd like to make EMP a bit slower so as to add more in-battle micro/reaction based moves.

I don't really think FG or EMP or anything else is imba, but I think they should require more skill to use and give the enemy to react(which has been mentioned a million times i know).

Any thoughts? Would Blizzard add something like this? Why wouldn't they? Is it changing the gameplay too much? Is it too "arcade-ish" and not enough RTS-ish?

Any comments would be welcome.


I don't know why people aren't talking about this, but I think its pretty awesome. Makes broodlord infestor less strong in ZvT and ZvP lategame, but the dynamic of being able to negate that through skill is pretty awesome. I do play terran though.. ^^ Any Z have any comment on this?
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
July 23 2012 12:22 GMT
#57
Sorry but still dont understand why USA players get 16 seeds, but countries like Ukraine and Sweden have 2 and 3 respectively, If we want the best players shouldnt we give chance for THE best players. I mean Kas is not in WCS, but some guy Tubbythefat is. Where is the logic?
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
July 23 2012 16:28 GMT
#58
Does anyone know if their's Grandmaster for 2v2 on Korea server?? Seems like it but not anywhere else :O
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3185730/llllllllllll
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
mysteriousbox
Profile Joined July 2012
1 Post
July 24 2012 02:21 GMT
#59
Anyone want to take bets on how long until there's a big shake up in the EG team? Nothing against anyone on the team but their results have been nothing short of awful for the last couple of months. Add that Huk and Idra have clearly regressed and there's no one else ready to step up (demuslim hasn't really panned out as hyped)... I'm giving it another 2 months before there's a big shake up and iNcontrol is shown the door as captain/coach.

Any takers?
ghindo
Profile Joined March 2012
United States58 Posts
July 24 2012 04:30 GMT
#60
On July 24 2012 11:21 mysteriousbox wrote:
Anyone want to take bets on how long until there's a big shake up in the EG team? Nothing against anyone on the team but their results have been nothing short of awful for the last couple of months. Add that Huk and Idra have clearly regressed and there's no one else ready to step up (demuslim hasn't really panned out as hyped)... I'm giving it another 2 months before there's a big shake up and iNcontrol is shown the door as captain/coach.

Any takers?
I really doubt it. What Incontrol might lack as a player he more than compensates as a caster/personality. It'll be a long time before Incontrol is cut from EG. Plus, EG's results haven't been phenomenal, but they've still been quite good. Not to mention players are supposed to have dips in performance -- nobody can play great forever (Flash excluded).
omen.dead
Profile Joined July 2012
Poland1 Post
July 24 2012 10:39 GMT
#61
Please can somone help me? i need to know where could i get the replay of this game
and if i download the replay file where do i put it in sc2 folder so i can watch it?
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
July 24 2012 10:40 GMT
#62
On July 24 2012 01:28 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Does anyone know if their's Grandmaster for 2v2 on Korea server?? Seems like it but not anywhere else :O
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3185730/llllllllllll

Looks like a bug... Notice how he has the exact same amount of points/wins/losses on both 1v1 and 2v2.

I would like a GM for 2v2 though. I could actually get in ^_^


On another note: My liquibet seems bugged. Sometimes it votes for the player in the next match. For instance, today I wanted to vote for Curious against Creator, but ended up voting for MMA O.o Has anyone else experienced this?

Picture in spoiler.
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What a player
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 24 2012 16:28 GMT
#63
Post that in Website Feedback MentalGNT. Please.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 22:46:38
July 24 2012 22:40 GMT
#64
How come there is no countdown to the TSL on liquipedia like other tournaments have paid to have there. Can liquid not afford to advertise on it's own site? Discuss amongst yourselves..

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I'm trolling with the speculation, but seriously I think it would look pretty up there..I see no reason for TSL not to be up there :-/






On July 24 2012 19:39 omen.dead wrote:
Please can somone help me? i need to know where could i get the replay of this game [removed] and if i download the replay file where do i put it in sc2 folder so i can watch it?


Day 9 puts that on his site for new dailies. day9.tv
Looks like he didnt do it for all his old ones (i don't blame him, most of those replays are probably long gone)
Basically you should watch more recent dailies, the metagame was a lot different for daily 399. It's already daily 483 tonight i think.. anyway

Once you download a replay, if you haven't changed your default folder for replays. put it into documents/starcraft 2/accounts/######/1-S2-######/Replays

Good luck.
P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
July 24 2012 23:28 GMT
#65
i was just wondering:

does the G in GSL stand for "Global" or "GOM"?
JonathanMerklin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States72 Posts
July 25 2012 00:34 GMT
#66
On July 25 2012 08:28 courtpanda wrote:
i was just wondering:

does the G in GSL stand for "Global" or "GOM"?


I would assume global; GOMTV is just the sponsor. I'm basing this off of mostly Liquipedia's page for GSL.

Also, I'd like to ask a pretty simple question, if anyone knows: has ActionJesuz officially retired from Starcraft? Even if he 6/7-pooled every game at DH Winter 2010, he still had to fight through a 64-man BYOC qualifier to get to group stages, so I assume he was at least decent at the game; yet he appears in neither of the brackets for the WCS Denmark Qualifiers.

This leads me to believe he either (a) did not want to try for WCS or (b) had quit.

Thanks in advance!
"The object of the game is to win. If they can't counter that, they're the ones with the problem, not you." - Nemephosis
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
July 25 2012 00:40 GMT
#67
On July 25 2012 09:34 JonathanMerklin wrote:
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On July 25 2012 08:28 courtpanda wrote:
i was just wondering:

does the G in GSL stand for "Global" or "GOM"?


I would assume global; GOMTV is just the sponsor. I'm basing this off of mostly Liquipedia's page for GSL.

Also, I'd like to ask a pretty simple question, if anyone knows: has ActionJesuz officially retired from Starcraft? Even if he 6/7-pooled every game at DH Winter 2010, he still had to fight through a 64-man BYOC qualifier to get to group stages, so I assume he was at least decent at the game; yet he appears in neither of the brackets for the WCS Denmark Qualifiers.

This leads me to believe he either (a) did not want to try for WCS or (b) had quit.

Thanks in advance!


he either quit or plays at an extremely low level now. last time I saw him play was like 8 months ago
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
July 25 2012 15:04 GMT
#68
I have one question which doesent suit any thread. How much leagues are lwft in bw to be olayed? I meant to ask when we can expect bw pros to train sc2 fulltime?
ghindo
Profile Joined March 2012
United States58 Posts
July 25 2012 15:12 GMT
#69
On July 26 2012 00:04 Nawe wrote:
I have one question which doesent suit any thread. How much leagues are lwft in bw to be olayed? I meant to ask when we can expect bw pros to train sc2 fulltime?
I think October is when everybody switches to SC2 fulltime IIRC.
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
July 25 2012 16:28 GMT
#70
Thx!
LHG
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1 Post
July 26 2012 02:38 GMT
#71
Can someone take a look at my reddit link about professional SC2?http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/x3obu/iama_request_pro_starcraft_team_recruiter/
ZERG RUSH KEKEKEKE ^^
LDub
Profile Joined March 2011
25 Posts
July 26 2012 03:12 GMT
#72
On July 16 2012 11:03 MCXD wrote:
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On July 16 2012 08:56 M7Jagger wrote:
How come there are no black progamers?


There are plenty, but not in the RTS community. Most of them seem to be in the fighting game community.



...imagine that
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
July 27 2012 07:18 GMT
#73
I might finally start playing SC2. I played a few games with a diamond(?) league friend, almost won 2 or 3 of them.

So I kinda know how to use Terran. I heard T is considered imba now. Should i just learn+mass game on just one build? Or is this practice method less effective than it was in BW?
CrazyShot
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1 Post
July 27 2012 10:52 GMT
#74
Hey guys, I'm not really sure where to put this, so I guess I'll put it here. Sorry if it's wrong.

The GSL sponsor, Monsieur J, is a skin and hair company. I want to buy their soft wax hair product to support the company that supports StarCraft, but the entire website is in Korean and I don't really know how to go about navigating the site, or if they will even ship to me in California.

If anyone could help, that would be awesome!
Here is the link: http://monsieurj.com/flash/popup.html

I can get all the way to the order form page, I think, but am at a complete loss from there.
Do what you love, love what you do.
emrextreme
Profile Joined July 2012
14 Posts
July 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#75
Hey, it's my first post and i'm really excited after playing the starter edition. I want to buy it immediately. But i wonder if i should wait for the expansion pack (heart of swarm) for a price drop. Will there be a significant price drop? I'll be really glad if anyone answer. Thanks in advance.
clever_us
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States329 Posts
July 28 2012 00:20 GMT
#76
On July 28 2012 08:12 emrextreme wrote:
Hey, it's my first post and i'm really excited after playing the starter edition. I want to buy it immediately. But i wonder if i should wait for the expansion pack (heart of swarm) for a price drop. Will there be a significant price drop? I'll be really glad if anyone answer. Thanks in advance.


The way I see it, if you pay around 40 dollars for SC2 now and (hypothetically) 30 dollars for HOTS when it comes out, that's only 10 dollars more than the bundle will likely cost. Even if it's 20 dollars more... twenty extra dollars for a couple extra months of sc2 is definitely worth it imo. Also will increase your odds of getting in on the HOTS beta.

And, knowing blizzard, it could definitely be a while before HOTS even comes out
glhf <3
emrextreme
Profile Joined July 2012
14 Posts
July 28 2012 01:29 GMT
#77
On July 28 2012 09:20 clever_us wrote:
The way I see it, if you pay around 40 dollars for SC2 now and (hypothetically) 30 dollars for HOTS when it comes out, that's only 10 dollars more than the bundle will likely cost. Even if it's 20 dollars more... twenty extra dollars for a couple extra months of sc2 is definitely worth it imo. Also will increase your odds of getting in on the HOTS beta.And, knowing blizzard, it could definitely be a while before HOTS even comes out


Thank you. Guess i'm gonna buy the game.
NVRLand
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden203 Posts
July 28 2012 21:26 GMT
#78
What is Jinro up to atm? I know that he streams a lot but has he quit playing seriously? Disappointed to not see him in the Nordic Nationals :/
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
July 28 2012 21:40 GMT
#79
On July 29 2012 06:26 NVRLand wrote:
What is Jinro up to atm? I know that he streams a lot but has he quit playing seriously? Disappointed to not see him in the Nordic Nationals :/

Isn't jinny still in korea so how could he be in the nordic wcs?
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
Duval
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Belgium144 Posts
July 28 2012 22:29 GMT
#80
On July 29 2012 06:40 Bippzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 06:26 NVRLand wrote:
What is Jinro up to atm? I know that he streams a lot but has he quit playing seriously? Disappointed to not see him in the Nordic Nationals :/

Isn't jinny still in korea so how could he be in the nordic wcs?


Naniwa is also still in Korea and he is participating the WCS for Sweden.
It doesn't matter where you live afaik, just your nationality.
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
July 29 2012 11:17 GMT
#81
How many times do I have to beg for a Choi, Ha-Na fan club
BaDMannerS
Profile Joined July 2012
Bulgaria57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 14:02:05
July 29 2012 13:59 GMT
#82
I am not sure, if here is the right place, but I'd like to share a funny graphics bug :D
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Coll, reversed starport :D
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 29 2012 16:05 GMT
#83
Heh nice. I've seen that happen to rax but never a starport. Looks like the whole lot of them are bugged.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
NVRLand
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden203 Posts
July 29 2012 20:23 GMT
#84
On July 29 2012 06:40 Bippzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 06:26 NVRLand wrote:
What is Jinro up to atm? I know that he streams a lot but has he quit playing seriously? Disappointed to not see him in the Nordic Nationals :/

Isn't jinny still in korea so how could he be in the nordic wcs?


Both Naniwa and Sase were in Korea but went to Sweden for the Nordic Nationals so I can't see why it would be a problem. Even if he had chosen to skip Nordic Nationals, what has he done as a player in 2012? Has he played any major tournaments?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 30 2012 01:52 GMT
#85
I was at MLG Columbus, IPL in Vegas and in Anaheim - just did not do well in any of them (did.... "OK" at IPL I guess). Not worth going to WCS if you aren't likely to win.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
meepkeN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States52 Posts
July 30 2012 02:00 GMT
#86
Cool similarity between Terraria and SC2

If you played Terraria and gotten to hardmode, and go the the corruption, you'll find monsters called "Corruptors". The way they attack is really similar to our zerg corruptors. I wouldn't say the two look alike but see for yourself:

http://wiki.terrariaonline.com/Corruptor
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 30 2012 03:14 GMT
#87
How about cause we want to watch you play Jinro? Reason enough?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
July 30 2012 07:32 GMT
#88
On July 30 2012 10:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I was at MLG Columbus, IPL in Vegas and in Anaheim - just did not do well in any of them (did.... "OK" at IPL I guess). Not worth going to WCS if you aren't likely to win.


Correct me if I'm wrong though but aren't you the only foreigner to ever make it to Ro4? (I'm sure you did, didn't you?)
rrwrwx
Profile Joined March 2011
United States247 Posts
July 30 2012 17:47 GMT
#89
On July 30 2012 10:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I was at MLG Columbus, IPL in Vegas and in Anaheim - just did not do well in any of them (did.... "OK" at IPL I guess). Not worth going to WCS if you aren't likely to win.

I think you're much better than you give yourself credit for, truly.
kolofome
Profile Joined December 2010
United States96 Posts
July 30 2012 19:45 GMT
#90
http://www.rakaka.se/?newsID=19492

not sure if this is legit but the basis of the article says that naniwa left quantic, someone who can speak/read swedish could make more sense of this
battlefield 3 is pretty damn fun
Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
July 31 2012 11:51 GMT
#91
I haven't kept up with it but the paid name change was never implemented right? You can change your name once for free but not at all afterwards correct?
straight poppin
ghindo
Profile Joined March 2012
United States58 Posts
July 31 2012 17:39 GMT
#92
On July 31 2012 20:51 Penecks wrote:
I haven't kept up with it but the paid name change was never implemented right? You can change your name once for free but not at all afterwards correct?
Blizzard still hasn't implemented paid name changes, but I think that the official word is that it's coming Soon™. IIRC there have been two free name changes, but I don't think that they stacked. Meaning, if you've never used a free name change, you only have one. If you used the first free name change, you get another.
Cepteel
Profile Joined June 2011
47 Posts
July 31 2012 19:01 GMT
#93
Is there any estimate on when Heart of the Swarm is due? Why would they tease us with being able to play at MLG and see all the new units (prior to probably some being nerfed or eliminated, etc) and stuff and not announce the beta soon after? I haven't seen any public news on like IGN or something like that about it, but I wondered if anyone else maybe had an idea of when the beta might happen?
Entertainment. Education. Starcraft. Twitch.tv/cepteel
MaSatu
Profile Joined July 2012
1 Post
July 31 2012 23:57 GMT
#94
What if siege tanks could attack while moving?
It's just an idea I came up with some time. It makes sense from a realism perspective and I think it might make mech more viable in TvP because tanks would be able to kite immortals and back away from chargelots. It would also make being caught unsieged less of a big deal because you could retreat while attacking at the same time. I'm not sure how this might affect balance but I'm curious on any opinions.
aMacxo
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada5 Posts
August 01 2012 02:32 GMT
#95
My 1v1 rank is actually silver but it is saying platinum on my profile summary?? When I search for a 1v1 match I do play against silver opponents. Just wondering if this may be a bug or if its some new way of placement? Also note that this is my first season playing sc2.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
August 01 2012 12:25 GMT
#96
Any updates on how the recent patch has completely revolutionised the game and how it has affected progamers?
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
August 01 2012 12:58 GMT
#97
What the hell do people do in TvZ nowadays? Is being aggressive before you have a third really all-in vs queenspam hiverush builds? Have there been some recent development in Korea that has made the matchup better, or are Terrans winning games because of horrible decisions by the Zerg?

Why do I keep seeing replays of zergs delaying their third in favor of faster speed / evos? If 6 minute thirds with queenspam are perfectly safe, why bother doing anything other than that or roachbane?
"There should be no tying a sharp, hard object to your cock like it has a mechanical arm and hitting it with the object or using your cockring to crack the egg. No cyborg penises allowed. 100% flesh only." - semioldguy
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
August 02 2012 03:59 GMT
#98
The fuck is wrong with my SC2 now. It sticks at 0% trying to patch the damn game. And yes I ran it as an admin.

Please don't tell me I'm going to have to resort to blizzard's one and only solution- re-installing.
XK ßubonic
Simmxns
Profile Joined July 2012
United States7 Posts
August 02 2012 16:59 GMT
#99
Am I the only person not having problems with my SC2? Played probably 20 2v2's yesterday, and besides the occasional frame lag (during major battles) I haven't really noticed a problem.
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robert1994
Profile Joined August 2012
Romania1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 13:54:07
August 02 2012 20:08 GMT
#100
if somebody has a sc2 account and he does not use it anymore or he does not need it send the email and the password at the ishouldnotbedoingthis@gmarshalcensorship.net (i need an europa account).
thx for helping.

User was warned for this post
nothing
BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 23:04:28
August 02 2012 22:44 GMT
#101
Why didnt Jinro play the wcs sweden tournament? What are you up to now Jinro, havent seen you for a while?
Edit: sorry didnt read the page before
Greed is good
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
August 02 2012 22:57 GMT
#102
I do not like this.
XK ßubonic
SimoNostalgia
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States226 Posts
August 03 2012 00:47 GMT
#103
I need to find a simple opening build that will deny ling harass at the beginning of my ZvZ

If I don't see a hatch at the natural right away by the time my overlord is at his base should I making lings instead of drones?
Above the lakes, above the vales, The mountains and the woods, the clouds, the seas, Beyond the sun, beyond the ether, Beyond the confines of the starry spheres, My soul, you move with ease
jinx1281255
Profile Joined August 2011
United States45 Posts
August 03 2012 01:12 GMT
#104
@SimoNostalgia

Unfortunately, there isn't really a cookie-cutter opening to do that specifically, but there is an all-in by ROOTDestiny that is pretty good at denying initial damage...but it's an all-in, so haha not the best macro opener. I'd say the best opener (assuming economy is still important) would be a 15 hatch defensive bane opening. It requires good micro but it puts you far ahead if he does pressure you early.

Make sure you are using all your overlords to make a line across the map to scout quickly and have an overlord that can scout his natural timing. This should give you a pretty good headstart to knowing what he's up to. If you want more specifics, check out Apollo's Zerg tutorial on youtube.com where he goes into more detail about various builds.

Jinx
SimoNostalgia
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States226 Posts
August 03 2012 05:41 GMT
#105
Thanks Jinx (rhymed)

I will take you up on this and check out Apollo
Above the lakes, above the vales, The mountains and the woods, the clouds, the seas, Beyond the sun, beyond the ether, Beyond the confines of the starry spheres, My soul, you move with ease
xHadoken
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States171 Posts
August 03 2012 14:47 GMT
#106
On July 16 2012 18:19 Heartland wrote:
So, with both NASL, Dreamhack and Homestory won by foreigners, do you think that we're seeing a more level playing field between the foreign scene and the Korean one?


I think that foreigners might actually be catching up to Koreans now. But thats only because they put in the time to
Defeating a sandwich only makes it tastier
H0verMyr
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland19 Posts
August 04 2012 11:03 GMT
#107
Hi guys.. I got a question about upcoming tournament ESL Cologne 2012. Do the stream from this event will be available in TeamLiquid or I have to search the web to get the stream?
trueblue_swe
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden25 Posts
August 04 2012 18:50 GMT
#108
Hi! Anyone know how to revert to the old warp in cool down animation? I think the new "clock" style is very annoying! Thanx for help!
Bankutsu
Profile Joined August 2012
1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 01:18:59
August 05 2012 01:17 GMT
#109
Sup dudes! ---> Liquid Crank time <--

Was just checking out (former Slayers) Crank Stream and this guy is pretty good and happens to look for a foreign team,
Been a fan of Crank for a while now so I'm thinking Liquid_Crank! Seems like a nice addition to the Team and this guy is only getting better. Team liquid usually seems to have a good eye for up and coming talent and personally I think this might be one of those up and comers. So I was wondering or u guys agreed and if so let the peeps and Team Liquid know and lets see what they think !



PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
August 05 2012 01:25 GMT
#110
Liquid`Crank sounds like an addition that might get some raised eyebrows from sponsors =P

"There should be no tying a sharp, hard object to your cock like it has a mechanical arm and hitting it with the object or using your cockring to crack the egg. No cyborg penises allowed. 100% flesh only." - semioldguy
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
August 05 2012 18:41 GMT
#111
Does anyone know where I can safely sell my sc2 account?
hush81
Profile Joined August 2012
1 Post
August 05 2012 19:06 GMT
#112
hello TL forum, this is my very first post, so please forgive me if I posted on the wrong thread or something, but if that's the case I'd appreciate some help and guidance rather than insults.

The main reason for opening an account on this forum is because I am looking for a partner who would like to invest in e-sports, for example, I would like to collectively make a tournament where we the organizers chip in for a prize pool, I could put $150 the first time, and if I get one or two more guys to do the same, I think we could have a decent prize pool of approx $500. It does not mean this is the only thing we can do, if you have any specific good ideas on something else that could be done Starcraft-related, I could invest even more. Please let me know. Thanks.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
August 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#113
Does anybody know if artist still plays competitively?
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
August 08 2012 08:04 GMT
#114
Where are the TSL ro32 day3/4 interviews? I looked but couldnt' find them ><
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
August 08 2012 21:26 GMT
#115
It's a good day for streamers today. Haven't seen this many on for quite a long time.
Learn to count with CatsPajamas!
GoingGoingGone
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Slovakia529 Posts
August 09 2012 06:55 GMT
#116
I don't really know where to put it, so I put it here.
I switched back to Protoss (Gold league) about a week ago and right now, I won against a top 16 diamond player in a PvP while having a hidden pylon in my base. It just feels so damn good.

Anyway, does anyone know when the Up&Downs for the next GSL will be announced/played? Will it be right after the Korean WCS?
Busy night, but there's always room for another... unless the servers are down.
Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
August 09 2012 07:41 GMT
#117
Does anybody know if there is an effective practice for those with high WPM (100+) to increase their effectiveness?

I've tried doing some search, but all I can find is start tutorials and typing tests.
Axeltl
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland48 Posts
August 10 2012 06:48 GMT
#118
On July 15 2012 10:17 alpenrahm wrote:
no feedback on thors would be pretty cool.

here is what i think:

lategame terran with MMMVG+tanks does not equal the other races maxed T3 armies but we still get forced into playing it. mostly because mech is not viable during the early game, due to its imense gas cost, thus forcing bio play which doesn´t transition smoothly into mech play since you need separate upgrades and production facilities.

-to efficiently play mech on 2 bases you need atleast 3 factories with 3 addons and an armory.
that is 500 gas just for infrastructure and you havent even gotten any units out at this point.

-you dont have an appropriate mineral dump. hellions are nice to have but they dont win battles.
getting marines to support your mech play does only work for the very early stages of the game when marines can be effective without any upgrades. after that, they become a liability because upgrading them does cut into our gas.

if there is a patch coming, I would like to see it, either slightly reducing the gas cost and build time of factories, or greatly reducing the gas cost of armories.



Lategame MMMVG does equal other races maxed T3. You're just wrong. maxe protoss army vs maxed terran army with ghosts to EMP. If you want to talk about Splash dmg, ghost EMP is far better than hightemplar storm. Hightemplar storm does 80 dmg at a maximum. Ghost EMP dmg 100 sheild instanly and is an AoE spell.

As for mech not being viable on 2 base.. well its a 3base strategy so whats you point. They way you play mech is that you go for hellion harrassment while you take a quick third base and then vamp up the prodction.
The day you can debate balance, is the day when you dont make any mistakes.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
August 10 2012 15:24 GMT
#119
Trying to find some ling/festor guides for ZvP/T, but I can't find much. Belial wrote a guide on ZvP, but I'm looking for more of a "by-supply/clock" type build order I can practice. Anyone got some place to start?
hubrid
Profile Joined August 2012
United States6 Posts
August 10 2012 18:43 GMT
#120
On August 11 2012 00:24 Jojo131 wrote:
Trying to find some ling/festor guides for ZvP/T, but I can't find much. Belial wrote a guide on ZvP, but I'm looking for more of a "by-supply/clock" type build order I can practice. Anyone got some place to start?

Terran player here hoping you don't find any... my poor poor bio ball. 0_o
Nothing's impossible, even the word itself says "I'm possible".
Creegz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada354 Posts
August 11 2012 05:41 GMT
#121
Will anyone keep up with creating these threads when Jinro is done? Or will the community just start making them?
Who is this guy? ^
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 13 2012 11:13 GMT
#122
Just got into masters playing only random. :D
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
August 13 2012 11:49 GMT
#123
On August 11 2012 14:41 Creegz wrote:
Will anyone keep up with creating these threads when Jinro is done? Or will the community just start making them?

This post might answer your question:
On August 07 2012 17:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 17:38 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
WAit wait! WIll you still stick around the forums?!


Yeah, a little.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
August 13 2012 18:06 GMT
#124
On August 13 2012 20:13 GolemMadness wrote:
Just got into masters playing only random. :D

dude thats pretty sick o.0
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
August 13 2012 18:13 GMT
#125
On August 13 2012 20:13 GolemMadness wrote:
Just got into masters playing only random. :D


All Hail, King of the Cheesers
+ Show Spoiler +
Just Kiding, Congrats!
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 13 2012 22:06 GMT
#126
No cheese! Tried it a few times TVZ since I hate playing terran in TVZ, but it never once worked.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 14 2012 00:34 GMT
#127
Hey quick question. How come the WCS qualifier results aren't in TLPD? Is it just that no-one has put them in, there's a reason we aren't putting them in or am I just missing them?
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Dslym
Profile Joined August 2011
United States7 Posts
August 14 2012 03:05 GMT
#128
Hey guys just a heads up if anyone is in the new haven ct area we are trying to get people in for a barcraft in east haven ct. Amazing korean restaraunt with extremly friendly employees. im trying to get it going in the next few weeks please respond if intrested thanks....
Its not a game. Its a way of life!
adacan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 03:36:27
August 14 2012 03:35 GMT
#129
wrong thread
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 14 2012 04:06 GMT
#130
Oh and another question: Was just watching the TvP HotS battle report. Is there a way to turn off fog of war in spectator mode? They were walking me through the map and all I could think was "Can't see much of what you're talking about"
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Atlasy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hungary229 Posts
August 14 2012 18:35 GMT
#131
Hey!

In 2011 or earlier someone posted an excel file on TL where you could count your ladder statistics, win loss ratio, win loss against races, etcetc

I've switched to W3 and I'm playing on Garena, but there is no ladder system and I'm curious so I'd like to know the statistics.

I've found 2 threads but they weren't the ones that I was searching for: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240848 This doesn't have any download link

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=153088 this has outdated link, and the files have been removed since then

I hope you can help me!

Thanks in advance!
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
August 14 2012 22:35 GMT
#132
is there current data from blizzard available how many points are needed for a GM promotion next season?
Dancken
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3 Posts
August 15 2012 02:02 GMT
#133
I sense a disturbance in the force. It just struck me that there might there be a HoTS Beta starting very soon. Like this week. What do you guys think?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 15 2012 12:54 GMT
#134
On August 15 2012 11:02 Dancken wrote:
I sense a disturbance in the force. It just struck me that there might there be a HoTS Beta starting very soon. Like this week. What do you guys think?


Been waiting for Beta information since post MLG when it was slated to come out "soon" after.

Anyway, if there's no Beta soon they're going to scrap a christmas release, if that was their intention, and be looking something more along the lines of early year 2013 imo. Any later than that and they're just holding onto a finished game. That doesn't make you money.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Dancken
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3 Posts
August 15 2012 18:19 GMT
#135
Rofl, new information arrived :D.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/6983561/Heart_of_the_Swarm_Beta_Coming_Soon-8_15_2012
snvsk
Profile Joined August 2012
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 22:47:13
August 15 2012 22:46 GMT
#136
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=406358909411750

[image loading]

i just started playing recently (currently silver leage v__v), but one of the huge factors that got me from just spectating to actually playing was watching Destiny's ridiculous videos on youtube.

Husky played the largest influence on getting me interested, but i think individual players and their respective streams/commentaries are really what gets people engaged in actually playing the game.

i love seeing the players' personalities and how their personality affects their play style.
"It's weird, some games I can actually kill marines. I don't know if it's a glitch or what."
Blog123
Profile Joined August 2012
Romania1 Post
August 16 2012 19:09 GMT
#137
Hello. I will present my blog.
Is a blog with cracks and cheats for all gamers!
I will post soon some keygen and software licenses. !
I hope to be helpful. Cheers
Visit: http://cheats-and-cracks.blogspot.com/
Nimic
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
August 17 2012 20:17 GMT
#138
In Italy almost every account was locked and you need to change the password in order to play again. Is it just italy or is it an Europan problem?
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
CrAyZeD
Profile Joined January 2012
United States36 Posts
August 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#139
I saw someone referring to an interview with Lotv could someone provide a link
Nice To Meet You!<3
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
August 18 2012 12:08 GMT
#140
On August 16 2012 07:46 snvsk wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=406358909411750

[image loading]

i just started playing recently (currently silver leage v__v), but one of the huge factors that got me from just spectating to actually playing was watching Destiny's ridiculous videos on youtube.

Husky played the largest influence on getting me interested, but i think individual players and their respective streams/commentaries are really what gets people engaged in actually playing the game.

i love seeing the players' personalities and how their personality affects their play style.
That picture is awesome!
''you got to yolo things up to win''
Asmodeusx
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
286 Posts
August 19 2012 05:16 GMT
#141
So i just realized that Morrow is playing TvZ and ZvT, can anyone link some recent replays of Morrow's TvZ? I wonder what does he think is the correct way to play that matchup from Terran perspective.
Hermetis Vögelein ist mein Nahm verlahs meine Flügel und werde zahm.
nCnNaIMad
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1 Post
August 19 2012 14:20 GMT
#142
It isn't wheher or not you go out with a bang. It's how long you glow when you do
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
August 20 2012 04:18 GMT
#143
On August 18 2012 21:08 TsGBruzze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 07:46 snvsk wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=406358909411750

[image loading]

i just started playing recently (currently silver leage v__v), but one of the huge factors that got me from just spectating to actually playing was watching Destiny's ridiculous videos on youtube.

Husky played the largest influence on getting me interested, but i think individual players and their respective streams/commentaries are really what gets people engaged in actually playing the game.

i love seeing the players' personalities and how their personality affects their play style.
That picture is awesome!


original video, even better now with sound

I was drawn first by the beta battle report, never was a fan of rts except mugging around in red alert 2. That was the first time I watch a match commentated and was really impressed by the excitement that it brought to me.

after the game is released, I found HD and husky, liked them both quite a lot but you know, you can get bored of them.

Day9 daily taught me a tonnes of stuff, I began to ladder more and eventually started to watch random featured player's stream.

Then I found Destiny. He obviously is not the best player in the world but his games are really fun to watch, he just produce some really close epic long games, unlike the other progamers who usually just win/lose with a timing push, add in fancy micro etcetc.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
August 21 2012 10:03 GMT
#144
If i would like to have 2 accounts in HOTS (currently i have 1). I will have to buy 2 HOTS copies and 1 extra WOL copy?
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 18:19:22
August 21 2012 18:18 GMT
#145
[image loading]
Anyone know how can I make my creep look the same way as Zenio's ?
Occupation: Legend
oracleisbroken
Profile Joined August 2012
1 Post
August 21 2012 18:29 GMT
#146
guys,i just figure out a way to fix the oracle in hots
oracle now requires a building to build
its caled oracle tribunol
200mins/150gas
60s build time
400shield/400hp
new oracle data
100mins/250gas
75s build time
40shield/80hp
same speed
attack speed:2.5,dmg:5
ability
tal'darin crystal
75en
create a tal'darin crystal at the target location, block all the mins in the range so that workers cannot harvest them, 500hp,same range as the entomb, the cast range is same as raven's auto-turret.
pre-ordain
same
optic flare
need to be researched at oracle tribunol
110s, 200mins/200gas
cost 100en/125en
blind all the units in a 4x4 area, reduce their sight to one.
the energy upgrate moves to oracle tribunol too.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
August 22 2012 08:00 GMT
#147
On August 22 2012 03:29 oracleisbroken wrote:
guys,i just figure out a way to fix the oracle in hots
oracle now requires a building to build
its caled oracle tribunol
200mins/150gas
60s build time
400shield/400hp
new oracle data
100mins/250gas
75s build time
40shield/80hp
same speed
attack speed:2.5,dmg:5
ability
tal'darin crystal
75en
create a tal'darin crystal at the target location, block all the mins in the range so that workers cannot harvest them, 500hp,same range as the entomb, the cast range is same as raven's auto-turret.
pre-ordain
same
optic flare
need to be researched at oracle tribunol
110s, 200mins/200gas
cost 100en/125en
blind all the units in a 4x4 area, reduce their sight to one.
the energy upgrate moves to oracle tribunol too.

Couldn't agree more.
hi. big fan.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
August 22 2012 10:42 GMT
#148
why cant thors just step on zerglings, thors need a upgrade on the factory that lets them lift there feet up.
Sc2 always got your back
Rebmesed
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway2 Posts
August 22 2012 11:30 GMT
#149
Hey. guys. Im wondering about Korean Starcraft 2 version... anyone got ideas on how to get.. or is it just to install in korean?
Gotta be around here somewhere!
Caesar
Profile Joined March 2012
United States15 Posts
August 22 2012 14:20 GMT
#150
There are guides on how to get one all over the place. You need to buy a Taiwanese copy(they're on the same server) because for a Korean one you need a Korean social security number. If you just google "how to get a Korean Starcraft 2 account" the TL thread on it should be one of the first things on the list.

But I have a question regarding a KR account, too. How can I determine if I'll have latency issues or not? Can anyone tell me if the Midwest (Minnesota to be exact) has bad latency or not?
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
August 22 2012 19:28 GMT
#151
Was Kas happy because he won vs the top Korans at IEM, or did he win because he was happy?
Farmer Poopy
Profile Joined October 2011
258 Posts
August 22 2012 19:41 GMT
#152
On August 13 2012 20:13 GolemMadness wrote:
Just got into masters playing only random. :D


Congrats man! as a fellow random player who has been trying to break into masters for maybe over a year now I know how happy you must feel. I kind of feel my timing window is gone as when I get to put the games in and focus I can stay in top 8 diamond and occasionally hit masters players (and actually play really nice macro games with them if I get a MU I'm good at). But since school is going to be starting soon my play time will be reduced drastically
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
August 22 2012 19:42 GMT
#153
http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/92163-top-10-plays-from-the-mlg-summer-sc2-arena
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 23 2012 03:41 GMT
#154
On August 22 2012 20:30 Rebmesed wrote:
Hey. guys. Im wondering about Korean Starcraft 2 version... anyone got ideas on how to get.. or is it just to install in korean?

Search for threads on purchasing a Taiwan account. Then you can play on KR.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 06:18:01
August 23 2012 06:17 GMT
#155
Can anyone please help me find that English subtitled korean cast of a GSL game on Daybreak? It was a PvZ. It was posted here somewhere, but I can't find it ;;

Even Mr Chae posted in the thread and said it was cool. He even put it on his twitter to share with others.

Thanks in advance!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 06:39:46
August 23 2012 06:37 GMT
#156
On August 23 2012 15:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Can anyone please help me find that English subtitled korean cast of a GSL game on Daybreak? It was a PvZ. It was posted here somewhere, but I can't find it ;;

Even Mr Chae posted in the thread and said it was cool. He even put it on his twitter to share with others.

Thanks in advance!




The quality (even with it set to 480p) is horrible, but it works.

subtitles don't show up till after the in-game player announcements
"There should be no tying a sharp, hard object to your cock like it has a mechanical arm and hitting it with the object or using your cockring to crack the egg. No cyborg penises allowed. 100% flesh only." - semioldguy
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10333 Posts
August 23 2012 07:11 GMT
#157
On August 23 2012 15:37 Ooshmagoosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 15:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Can anyone please help me find that English subtitled korean cast of a GSL game on Daybreak? It was a PvZ. It was posted here somewhere, but I can't find it ;;

Even Mr Chae posted in the thread and said it was cool. He even put it on his twitter to share with others.

Thanks in advance!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trq0TRr9kcU

The quality (even with it set to 480p) is horrible, but it works.

subtitles don't show up till after the in-game player announcements


Wow awesome, thanks a ton mangz! :D
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Tone_
Profile Joined May 2009
United Kingdom554 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 10:11:11
August 23 2012 10:04 GMT
#158
Anybody know of any good info / videos regarding warp prism micro? I feel like a heavy handed fool whenever I try and pick up and drop my immortals quickly from a warp prism. I know it's in SC master too, and I haven't completed that level. I think it's the final one. Thanks.
Hasta La Victoria Siempre | 톤
drewdrifter2
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom8 Posts
August 23 2012 15:47 GMT
#159
can any one make a sc2 over lay for me
?
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
August 23 2012 15:53 GMT
#160
Hello, can anyone recommend a good replay/vod for a basic solid zvt opening (any map) ?
Thanks in advance
shadow111
Profile Joined August 2011
29 Posts
August 23 2012 17:29 GMT
#161
Hi guys!

I'm wondering whose stream is the most followed. Does anyone have a list or something...?
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
August 23 2012 19:11 GMT
#162
On August 24 2012 02:29 shadow111 wrote:
Hi guys!

I'm wondering whose stream is the most followed. Does anyone have a list or something...?


There is a list but I dont know where to get it. The one with the most viewers is Stephano.
INTENZ-_-
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden137 Posts
August 23 2012 20:26 GMT
#163
Yep, Stephano usually attracts loads of viewers; IdrA does as well on occasion.
uzushould
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria122 Posts
August 23 2012 23:59 GMT
#164
does anyone know why all the koreans drink so strange out of their water/juicebottels...while i don t want to be rude i have to admit that they look like fucking retards when they drink.....whats up with that strange behavior? (sry but retarded is the word that describes it best, im not trying to be offensive)

First i thought it is maybe because they disgust each other, but then i noticed they also do it when they have a bottle on their own, or a new bottle..i have seen this from a lot of koreans, basicly i have never seen one of them simple drink out of a bottle like normal.
reqc1992
Profile Joined August 2011
19 Posts
August 24 2012 11:50 GMT
#165
[image loading]

Hi TL !
I was laddering this morning , everything's going well won 2 games in a row , and when i was searching for my third game , this message appear.Does anyone know what is wrong , is that me ? is it the server ?.
Opportunities come once in a life time
CrAyZeD
Profile Joined January 2012
United States36 Posts
August 24 2012 13:46 GMT
#166
I won a ladder game and then my whole game got corrupted after the guy said he hacked me. Does anyone know of any exploits in the game that would allow someone to do this or is this just a coincidence like i think it is? Pm me if you have any clue as to what is going on
Nice To Meet You!<3
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 24 2012 13:50 GMT
#167
On August 24 2012 20:50 reqc1992 wrote:
[image loading]

Hi TL !
I was laddering this morning , everything's going well won 2 games in a row , and when i was searching for my third game , this message appear.Does anyone know what is wrong , is that me ? is it the server ?.


I got that message also :O! hope to find some help with this if not i'm turning my way to the support or the battle.net forums.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
INTENZ-_-
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden137 Posts
August 25 2012 18:12 GMT
#168
Anyone know if the ladder lock is in place?
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
August 26 2012 04:19 GMT
#169
On August 26 2012 03:12 Tellus wrote:
Anyone know if the ladder lock is in place?

I believe it's not considering there's no mention of it on battle.net, and no threads about it on TL.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
August 26 2012 21:27 GMT
#170
So, I just had an idea about the warhound that I wanted to share for the heck of it. I've seen several complaints, most of which I agree with, that the warhound is a boring unit that makes the siege tank a bit redundant and serves a very similar role to a marauder in that it just walks around and shoots stuff. I've also seen it argued very effectively that the warhound doesn't really bring out the best that mech has to offer (Falling's thread "In Defense of Mech" is largely about this).

So today while I was watching MLG I thought, what if they changed the warhound's heywire missile to a spell that costs energy, not sure how much, and that doesn't trigger automatically. What would happen? Could that make a difference? Players might have to save up for bursts of heywire missiles.

And then I figured, well but that still doesn't really make the warhound a good companion for the siege tank, because you could still just get a ton of warhounds and blast the protoss with heywire missiles. But then, high templar could feedback the warhounds. And maybe if they got rid of the warhound's standard attack and made it just a spellcaster, or just kept the standard attack something like the viking or goliath ground attack, that would be good. Siege tanks could clean up a smaller softened Protoss army, or act as a deterrent to that smaller softened Protoss army even if they don't actually do much shooting. The warhounds would then act as the "cannon fodder" that Falling talks about in his post.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
Subs
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 20:46:25
August 27 2012 20:45 GMT
#171
Alright, when the new season actually starts?
Its like we got almost 3 month season now.
In game it says, that season ends 1.09, but today is already 28(27) of august and there's literally no info on battle.net and no season lock.
And do metropolis come back in new season? miss it
or maybe some new maps like atlantis? hope it will be there)
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 27 2012 22:50 GMT
#172
So no one knows why the battle.net is bugging like a lot right now? or why some of us gets the "ERROR" message.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10068 Posts
August 28 2012 00:50 GMT
#173
i tried to play 2 games in TW/KR (ladder) and after the load screen i got disc. i didnt lose/win any points but its really wierd... hmmm it looks that bnet have problems
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
-dcHeartless-
Profile Joined July 2011
United States12 Posts
August 28 2012 11:52 GMT
#174
On July 17 2012 05:29 Rudermensch wrote:
Hey there, I lurk a lot and was looking for a thread on HotS to comment on some ideas but couldn't find one. I hope this is the right place.

I had an idea regarding the proposed Ultralisk changes in the multiplayer. Now, of course we haven't as a community had a chance to play the game yet, but as I understand things the burrow-charge ability is being considered as a means of allowing Ultralisks to close in on kiting units (esp: Terran). As an added effect, it disrupts positioning and randomly moves the units it erupts under within a certain radius of the eruption point. The last part of the ability I think is potentially problematic, but I'm going to ignore it as no one has really had a chance to play it yet.

If the problem is that the Ultralisk has issues with pathing and being able to close on units wouldn't a simpler solution be to alter the pathing of the Ultralisk in a manner similar to the way the Colossus is able to move over units? If the Ultralisk were able to walk over/through units such as Zerglings/Banelings and possibly Roaches and Hydras it would allow the unit not to get stuck on smaller units, fit better with it being as massive as it is supposed to be, and it would still be able to hit given it has a range of 1 so that it can attack over other melee units. It wouldn't entirely solve the issue of kiting but it would help the Ultralisk gain positioning on armies if the Zerglings/Banelings were able to swarm over their feet and not block the Ultralisk or vice-versa.

I'd like to get some thoughts on this, especially if it's been proposed before, or to have it moved to its own topic if it warrants.

I like this idea. I mean in honesty I liked the burrow thing but I have only had the chance to play around with it once and that was when I got to play the beta at Anaheim, but I like the idea of being able to move over units if you will. I might even make for more epic moments of ultra flanking and what not.
Rise or Die Trying
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
August 28 2012 17:45 GMT
#175
What happened to the practice partner thread?
StraTkSloth
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States181 Posts
August 29 2012 12:32 GMT
#176
On July 14 2012 20:06 Toastie.NL wrote:
Something just jumped my mind,

Ghost Snipe was nerfed way to hard because it countered both T3 options Zerg has.

High Templar Feedback/Storm counters both T3 options as well as T1 options from Terran.

How would TvP lategame look with Feedback not working vs Massive?


The chance that feedback would be removed from High Templar is very low. If they did that, they would have to give High Templar storm by default, and IMO, that is more better in all matchups late game, especially with a colossus. Protoss splash damage is just too good right now.
Vega Squadron Player || StarCraft II entusiast
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 29 2012 16:53 GMT
#177
I want to share my sadness. I can't really play SC2 anymore. For some reason, I have started to get lower and lower FPS. When I bought SC2 a few months ago it ran fine on the same computer, right now, on the lowest settings and lowest resolution, I consistently get 1 FPS in the late game. If I aim a fungal, the army isn't there anymore when it hits. If I select my hatches, it sometimes takes a full second before I can select larvae. All I can do in late game is a-move and pray. I don't like cheesing or rushing, I want to learn the game and become good, but I can't. I keep laddering because sometimes it's tolerable, but then the lag hits and I lose. There must be some hardware fault since I've tried everything in the book, cleaning up the startup, closing all other programs while playing, defragmenting, virus scanning, even reinstalling the game. The battle.net support has answered with a few more tips but nothing has helped. I'm waiting for more replies from them but I think that my graphics card is simply broken. And I can't afford a new computer or a new graphics card.

I'm not asking for help here, I am in contact with the support. Just want to rant and be sad because I can't play my favourite game
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
August 29 2012 18:01 GMT
#178
On August 29 2012 21:32 ThatSweatyNerd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 20:06 Toastie.NL wrote:
Something just jumped my mind,

Ghost Snipe was nerfed way to hard because it countered both T3 options Zerg has.

High Templar Feedback/Storm counters both T3 options as well as T1 options from Terran.

How would TvP lategame look with Feedback not working vs Massive?


The chance that feedback would be removed from High Templar is very low. If they did that, they would have to give High Templar storm by default, and IMO, that is more better in all matchups late game, especially with a colossus. Protoss splash damage is just too good right now.


It would be kinda funny if for no apparent reason ultralisks were given energy to cast their charge in hots, subsequently nerfing them out of existence in ZvP.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
August 30 2012 11:01 GMT
#179
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19399375

I never thought gaming could be affected by politics. :D
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 30 2012 16:33 GMT
#180
On August 30 2012 20:01 darkness wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19399375

I never thought gaming could be affected by politics. :D

There was also that whole SOPA and its sister bill a few months later. Threatened basically every game's ability to be streamed.
rGgiraffe
Profile Joined September 2011
France6 Posts
August 31 2012 00:04 GMT
#181
Hey im Ggiraffe and im looking for people to play some ladder, to have like an ladder enviorement via skype we are 2 right now master league. anyone interested pm me or talk to me on sc2
rGgiraffe.898
HobbsSC
Profile Joined June 2012
2 Posts
August 31 2012 11:57 GMT
#182
Hi Guys, High silver/gold toss looking for some tips on my macro/micro. If you have some spare time please come check out my stream:
http://www.twitch.tv/jyn_sc2

Thankyou
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
August 31 2012 12:47 GMT
#183
I think It would be super cool if you could do a season 4 code s power rank as its so stacked
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 31 2012 18:23 GMT
#184
Cool, Maddelisk has joined Quantic

Source: http://quanticgaming.com/articles/News/StarCraft-2/278/Quantic-Welcomes-MaddeLisk

Great for Madde, for Quantic, for Sweden and potentially for Flo if she decides to move over there I really think Madde has the potential to improve and compete at a high level.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Kassokilleri2ff
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
67 Posts
August 31 2012 21:09 GMT
#185
I read somewhere at some time that the kespa players were forced to use a certain set of hotkeys and keyboard layouts. Does anybody know what they were?
sjurjh
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway11 Posts
September 01 2012 00:44 GMT
#186
I have been thinking about how to best practice the most basic of mechanics. In this post I would like to hear opinions and ideas about how to fastest learn to use hotkeys and to use them fast (I am thinking about touch) and how to enhance mouse pointer speed and precision.

This is very basic for all RTS, many jobs and life in general (last two with touch). So there are many reasons to practice this and I would believe that this is something even high masters would benefit from. Though there are probably better ways for them to improve.

This is what i do now. If I have a some spare time I do some of these exercises which lasts about 5 minutes:
http://aim400kg.ru/en/ - Mouse fast movement and and click (read about this in another guide)
http://www.notdoppler.com/pointer.php - Mouse precision movement
http://www.freetypinggame.net/ - Touch

I also have my keyboard preferences set to grid and I have reassigned all hotkeys to be as close to asdf as possible. Even in bronze league i newer used my mouse when i could use a hotkey. Now I will put some paper in front of the hotkeys to learn not to look at them at all.

If you know of better ways to faster practice these most basic of mechanics or if you know of some better (or more fun) games/touch typing exercises please tell me. It would also be nice with a discussion about this..

-Sjur
Fiki92
Profile Joined September 2012
Serbia1 Post
September 01 2012 17:43 GMT
#187


Hi guys can someone who knows alot about sc2 help me,here is my story.
I just bought a copy of sc2 and its awesome,but i have a huge thing that is bugging me.
Some time ago i damaged my computer screen(dont ask me how)so i cant see the top right corner very well,which means i cant see the resource bar.
Is there something i can download that can relocate the resource bar when i play.Please guys i need this to play this game seriously.THX

I tried to make a new post but it says i need to wait 3 days.
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