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Q: What is this thread?
A: General purpose, SC2 discussion thread.
Q: What should I be posting about?
A: Basically, anything you want to talk about but aren't sure if it warrants a topic of its own. Heard a rumour you want to share? A new video? A brilliant new idea that you want to vet, to make sure it's really as brilliant as you think it is?
This is the place.
Note:
Posting standards will not be as high as if you were to make a new thread, but pointless spam will still not be tolerated. I have seen threads like these work out alright on other sites (for other games) so I figured, why not give it a shot? It's possible there's not really enough content for something like this to exist at this point in time, but no harm then, it will just die on its own.
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Can we just have a nice summary of how people are feeling?
Protoss: Sweet new stuff, feels pretty cool to play. Everyone is doing it!
Terran: May need some minor tweaking but pretty balanced and playable. Not as interesting as toss still.
Zerg: Many threads complaining about staleness and uninteresting mechanics. Needs work.
How accurate does everyone feel these are?
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So, I was just on my usuals when I stumbled upon this.
edited out pic- FA
Wonder if it's real ?
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Sweden33719 Posts
No torrent stuff plz =) Even pictures.
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other thread got closed so reposting,
Didn't feel this warranted a thread but is it just me or do immortals seems to be a bit overpowered?
They do their full 50 to most ground zerg units, 20 to lings and drones. They have their hardened shields of 100, then they have 200 regular HP.
They pose a pretty huge threat against terran too, so much so that terrans have to go marines which sets them up to get owned by collosus (same tech tree) or storm.
I dunno about their damage being nerfed but their HP is just humongous. Granted they cost 250/100? but compare that to the value of 2 stalkers which cost 125/50 each. Stalkers do 8+6 to ground which isn't even half the damage that immorts do, their HP is 80/80 (which barely makes it over the 300hp that immorts have, plus the immorts reduce all high powered attacks on shields to 10.
The difference between immorts and stalkers here though is that stalkers can hit air and can upgrade blink, and immorts can't hit air and have inherent hard shields.
So I think the shield hardening should either be an upgrade, or change the reduction to 15 or something.
Immortals just fucking plow down buildings.
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On March 03 2010 13:17 FrozenArbiter wrote:
No torrent stuff plz =) Even pictures.
no problem.
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I agree: Immortals are not just "Immortals". They are more like "Immortal Mega Cannon"s.
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On March 03 2010 14:36 fOscB.Sulik.SLR wrote:
I agree: Immortals are not just "Immortals". They are more like "Immortal Mega Cannon"s.
yea...i guess high sustainability low firepower is what we want. it seems to be as strong as the ultralisk to me so maybe raise its cost by 50/50? 300/150 anyone?
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As I dont have a key I cant be sure but the game seems abit "slow" in the beginning. It just dosnt feel like you can accomplish much except scouting and alot of players endup camping while building a certain army. Maybe this is just temporary until people learn the game better. But its abit boring, atleast to watch and I can imagine it must get abit redundant as soon as you have learned the buildorder properly. Am I way off here or?
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anyone used hydralisks against a Terran CC upgraded /w fortress repaired by 32432423 scv's?
I found it extremely difficult to kill it, since the SCV's just repaired and a attack move wouldn't kill the SCV's , instead the hydra's only attacked the fortress... I ended up shift clicking all the scv's :-)
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I think SC2 will be a solid game and I'll buy every part of the trilogy and have a lot of fun with it, but playing it seriously makes me want to go back and play SC1 again. The music, sound fx, unit designs, and general atmosphere feels hollow. Playing it on my computer still doesn't get rid of how difficult it is to tell what the heck is going on with all the units clumping into giant gray balls while running into the enemy's similarly clumped gray ball. It also feels like the camera angle is just wrong somehow. I keep trying to duck my head under it, but I may be alone on that last point.
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Question: Do you believe starcraft 2 has 0 micro involved, if not what are your examples. Personally I think we havent discovered this yet. in a long game tho if im toss and im 120 supply, I dont micro at all i just a move and annihilate or get crushed.
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Idea:
for the energy upgrades, that they should not only be +25 starting energy, but also +25% energy regen
For the Hydra... +2 range upgrade (making it 7)
with a Hive level upgrade of either
Another +2 range (making it siege)
or
the ability to move while burrowed
Essentially allowing the Hydra itself to replace the Lurker
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i think viking need to be able to push units out of the way when they land. the landing takes way to long.
also
i think roaches damage needs to be changed to 8+8 light or something along those lines instead of just pure 16 damage. or less armor from 2 to 1 or something.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Yeah I wish the landing animation was more like burrow for roaches (they basically insta-burrow, at least when I used them it felt like they did), making for a lot more micro opportunities.
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I just wanna share two flaws I found. Sentrys' unit portrait still depicts the old model and selection circle (green circle under units when u select them - duh  ) disappears under certain terrain types or doodadds. The later i found on lost temple when i sent my units across that center stone platform. If someone would be so kind and try it as it might be just my ol' metal box aka computer pulling some tricks on me.
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I'm probably missing something incredibly obvious, but is there a way to negate smart casting? Say I want all my BCs to yamato a CC or whatever. How do I do that so they all go and do it at the same time?
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im really missing the vulture =(
vulture >>>>>>>>>>>>> helllion stylewise and funwise.
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I guess I am the only one, but I think overall SC2 looks like dogcrap, graphically. Protoss look ok, but nothing special, terran units are good but their buildings look like plastic toys, and zerg look worse then they do in the War3 map starcraft, am I watching a Bugs life here or playing a teen rated RTS? To be honest I woulda perfered if they just added all the units and excellent new mechanics to starcraft 1, and just drew the units with 100x the pixels to make the game up to date, (I'm honestly not sure which looks better SC1 or SC2, and SC1 is done with 256 colors... I mean cmon?)
Has blizzard just been failing at graphics forever and I haven't noticed, I mean this is what an MMO looks like: http://www.gamingcrusade.com/images/darkfall.jpg
This is world of Warcraft: http://www.stuffwelike.com/stuffwelike/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/world-of-warcraft-a.jpg
any comparison?
I am still an avid SC fan and will def play I just feel like they hyped it up so much and the graphics look so stupid...
Even a competing RTS that came out years ago: http://techtribenews.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/command-and-conquer-3.jpg
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/command-and-conquer-3-kanes-wrath-pc-screenshot-big.jpg
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