I was always curious how he holds up vs current Soulkey who looks unbeatable. I guess he still plays broodwar but cant practice extensively to the point of getting to competitive form I assume

He might really just be a streamer from now on

jinjin5000

United States1432 Posts

July 02 2025 04:42 GMT

On July 02 2025 13:39 goody153 wrote:
I was always curious how he holds up vs current Soulkey who looks unbeatable. I guess he still plays broodwar but cant practice extensively to the point of getting to competitive form I assume

He might really just be a streamer from now on

you can look up here
https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=search_list

Highgamer

1412 Posts

July 02 2025 05:14 GMT

Bad for the competition (or good if you want to read it like that), regrettable for us, but good for him and the right thing to do. Wouldn't want to live the rest of his life with completely defect hands.

Everyone knows he'd still beat anyone and win ASL if his body let him.

CicadaSC

United States1765 Posts

July 02 2025 05:15 GMT

TL'DW = so he "retired." because of his wrists but guarantees he will be back at least once in the future to give it his all. so it's basically more of a break than a retirement for anyone curious.

Bonyth

Poland569 Posts

July 02 2025 05:59 GMT

First entering tournament with random, then dodges an ASL, then retiring until 'he feels better'. Sure, this has absolutely nothing to do with PR and potential ego loss.

prosatan

Romania8266 Posts

July 02 2025 06:25 GMT

Too bad

Thanks for translation jinjin !!

PS: he is observing Effort vs TY

iFU.pauline

France1608 Posts

July 02 2025 06:36 GMT

#10

I can totally understand someone who has been dominant as Flash not bothering with tournaments if he feels that he can't be competitive as he used to be because of an injury. It would be interesting to have a Flash vs SK even though I believe Flash would come up on top. Not saying it would be easy far from it, but from what I have seen so far, Flash seems to always be one step ahead. As for Soma, bro is so scared he doesn't even open hatch 12 anymore lol, I don't even think he could kill Light.

Biff The Understudy

France7901 Posts

July 02 2025 08:06 GMT

#11

That’s so sad. I was really, really looking forward seeing him play. Don’t quite know who to root for now.

CicadaSC

United States1765 Posts

July 02 2025 08:48 GMT

#12

Why is everyone still saying so sad? He said he will come back if his wrist heals. And even if it doesn't, he still guarantees us 1 more showing in ASL at least where he tries his hardest. Save the retirement posts for when he actually retires.

goody153

44176 Posts

July 02 2025 09:26 GMT

#13

On July 02 2025 13:42 jinjin5000 wrote:

Show nested quote +

you can look up here
https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=search_list

Thanks man. I assume this is their like ladder stat or proleague stuff or something not ASL

TMNT

2809 Posts

July 02 2025 09:26 GMT

#14

Yes I'm with Bonyth on this one. While it's a valid reason to not compete anymore, to me it feels like it's a convenient excuse for him to keep his image. He doesn't want to enter the tournament not being the clear favourite he was before. He hasn't had a positive record against Snow, Best, Mini and especially Light since coming back. That leaves him in the spot of "just one of the top Terrans" - not the undisputed goat player. Rather keep the image of "he can win when he wants" than being just one of the contenders.

It's a bit like Rain with his laid back preparation in ASL to keep the image of "the most talented Protoss, if he puts in the effort and stops playing League he'd win another ASL and become a Protoss bonjwa"

spets1

93 Posts

July 02 2025 09:35 GMT

#15

Noooooooo, wire up some robotic wrists or something

Fml

M3t4PhYzX

Poland4201 Posts

July 02 2025 10:14 GMT

#16

Bummer.

KameZerg

Sweden1767 Posts

July 02 2025 10:18 GMT

#17

It does strike me as weird that he says he doesn't want to compete because of his wrist pain and that he says it while playing BW, which would be the cause for his pain?

TMNT

2809 Posts

July 02 2025 10:43 GMT

#18

Yeah he played 20 games vs Soma over the two days after Soma's return. He's been playing the amount of games any ASL player would play normally.

Plus he was playing regularly before his military service, ASL and online. Then he was absent for 4 years. If anything his wirst should get better, not worse. And if it does get worse, why is he still playing online, chinese ultimate battle, proleagues etc.

Peeano

Netherlands5091 Posts

July 02 2025 11:30 GMT

#19

On July 02 2025 18:26 TMNT wrote:
Yes I'm with Bonyth on this one. While it's a valid reason to not compete anymore, to me it feels like it's a convenient excuse for him to keep his image. He doesn't want to enter the tournament not being the clear favourite he was before. He hasn't had a positive record against Snow, Best, Mini and especially Light since coming back. That leaves him in the spot of "just one of the top Terrans" - not the undisputed goat player. Rather keep the image of "he can win when he wants" than being just one of the contenders.

It's a bit like Rain with his laid back preparation in ASL to keep the image of "the most talented Protoss, if he puts in the effort and stops playing League he'd win another ASL and become a Protoss bonjwa"

That Rain analogy is unreasonably stretching it lol. It would look great on Flash if he can blantantly admit he doesn't like his current odds to seal the deal, instead of playing just the injury card. But he doesn't have to create a memory like Nada in MSL 2009 if he doesn't want to, especially if it would mean destroying his wrist even further...

...Ironically Flash is clicking and drag boxing like crazy whilst just watching a game while citing his excuse to retire from ASL, so what it's worth I'd love to see Flash destroy his wrist even further to get a few Silver medals and thennnnn another gold.

zelevin

United States274 Posts

July 02 2025 12:31 GMT

#20

Wow everyone loves making these character judgments. Flash can take a day off from streaming if he needs to without stress. He can't take a day off practicing for ASL without stressing out about it.
Another case of people saying, "nah I know what flash is really thinking!" Because they watched a few games and a translated video lol just take the guy at his word. What he says makes sense.