On July 08 2025 00:13 tankgirl wrote: this is the most cringe thread ive ever read
what the fuck is wrong with people
get well soon, flash.
seems to be a weird trait in humans where we both adore successful people and despise them and project all our venom and disappointment and inadequacy in our own life on them when they stumble in order to feel better about ourselves. A lot of pathetic and spiteful people coming out of the woodwork in this thread.
If you follow his activities you'd know something doesn't add up. Honestly injuries are just an excuse for most of them to not compete. Last, Larva, Effort, Rain all used the same excuse.
Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
What TMNT said. Plus this is not a bad thing. Competition got strong during Flash's absence, so the quality of games is peak without him, too. That's great. We now get a fun ASL more often.
On July 06 2025 07:06 machinus wrote: Flash has nothing to prove to anyone. It is weird that people are questioning his motives.
Flash doesn't play BW tournaments lightly. He's not a SC genius, he is a hard worker. Casually playing 268 games when he feels like he can with low stakes means absolutely nothing. That is just amusement for him. But entering a tournament is a completely different mental activity. Every game matters. It's not about "reputation" and it is silly to bring that up for this gamer. It is about winning. Flash does not want to commit to a tournament if he can't put in his normal amount of grinding, practice, and work.
I think Flash would be very happy if his wrists healed, he could play, and he lost to Soulkey while giving one more real fight.
Flash is still incredibly competitive in every non-casual game. You can see that quite clearly by the way he reacts to losing. He often and loudly expresses his immense frustration - which is a common behavior for the literal goat in any game or sport. No, Flash doesn't just play for fun now. He puts in a great amount of effort.
The real reason why he can't compete at the top level is that everybody else has improved so much. The competition has gotten much tougher and Flash realizes that he can't surpass them anymore. He's now "just one of the others". Still easily top five, if not top three, but certainly not the top dog anymore.
yeah I'm sure the half dozen of wrist surgeries has nothing to do with anything. Wtf??
He had those surgeries - including the associated pain - during his peak for many years.
Chronic injuries dont get worse! Also I am a five year old.
On July 06 2025 07:06 machinus wrote: Flash has nothing to prove to anyone. It is weird that people are questioning his motives.
Flash doesn't play BW tournaments lightly. He's not a SC genius, he is a hard worker. Casually playing 268 games when he feels like he can with low stakes means absolutely nothing. That is just amusement for him. But entering a tournament is a completely different mental activity. Every game matters. It's not about "reputation" and it is silly to bring that up for this gamer. It is about winning. Flash does not want to commit to a tournament if he can't put in his normal amount of grinding, practice, and work.
I think Flash would be very happy if his wrists healed, he could play, and he lost to Soulkey while giving one more real fight.
Flash is still incredibly competitive in every non-casual game. You can see that quite clearly by the way he reacts to losing. He often and loudly expresses his immense frustration - which is a common behavior for the literal goat in any game or sport. No, Flash doesn't just play for fun now. He puts in a great amount of effort.
The real reason why he can't compete at the top level is that everybody else has improved so much. The competition has gotten much tougher and Flash realizes that he can't surpass them anymore. He's now "just one of the others". Still easily top five, if not top three, but certainly not the top dog anymore.
yeah I'm sure the half dozen of wrist surgeries has nothing to do with anything. Wtf??
He had those surgeries - including the associated pain - during his peak for many years.
Chronic injuries dont get worse! Also I am a five year old.
If them getting worse is why he considered dropping out of ASL, then playing a lot of games with high APM was a bad move on his part. There's no reason to baby Flash like that. He knows what he's doing, he's a well adjusted adult.
In the first video you posted he said he will play when his wrist feel good. So the new video means he will play this ASL or ?
If he is not then nothing has changed really. He had surgery recently afterall so i wonder in 5-8 months the improvements and feelings with his hand how good will get. Or bad ? Who knows.
Personally i feel like skiping this ASL will give him enough time to slowly build his form in proleagues and sponsored games and maybe that will give him the confidence to play the next one without the need of extra hard preparing.
On July 10 2025 22:10 Ideas wrote: It seems like some players have had far more wrist injuries than others. Does pretty much every pro deal with wrist problems at some point? For example Light has been playing for just as long as flash/JD and I've never read about him having wrist problems.
the physical set up of mouse, keyboard, chair to desk height, and stretching the wrist flexor muscles all affect the chances of devloping wrist issues. proper set-up and injury prevention routines can completely prevent wrist issues. So no, not all pros have wrist issues.
There are multiple issues. Carpal tunnel is triggered by those you describe above. Ulnar tunnel, from what I read, is very strictly related to vibration. I think Flash was was wearing an elbow brace. I'm very late to the debate, if anybody would verify if it was indeed the elbow he got surgery from: #1.
its not a pathology that develops because of vibration. It develops under the same conditions as carpal tunnel syndrome. consistent and repetitive pressure on the nerve causing compression. this can be caused by multiple things, such as resting the hand exactly on the ulnar tunnel, a cyst or tumor growing exactly there, tightness in the muscles/soft tissue caused by overuse of the muscles in small tiny movements, ones made when holding a mouse for example, or having enlarges blood vessels which compresses the ulnar tunnel. Another less common cause is a genetic growth deviation that makes the tunnel more narrow than it should have been, which increases the risk of ulnar tunnel pathology by a lot. I for example have mid carpal instability syndrome, where some ligaments in my wirst are, since birth, deformed or lax and are unable to keep my mid carpal bones rigidly in place, resulting in them being able to slightlt move around my in my wrist. this puts me at an increased probability of developing carpal or ulnar tunnel pathologies. To prevent this I take very good care of my wrists.
See, that is the difference between us, too. I thought I knew that much, still I read a review and found out it is due to vibration. PS: you are being like Flash, wrong and repetitive. Try your luck at explaining it, I know enough not to dissert any opinion of my own. It's an entirely different specialty. PS2: your reply has this vague "AI slop" vibe, I cannot put my finger on. PS3: oh, you made a self reference at the end. I hope your switches don't vibrate a lot. Loud switches might have a propensity to more wrist vibration, although you may sandbox with your health for all I care.
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any.
On July 06 2025 07:06 machinus wrote: Flash has nothing to prove to anyone. It is weird that people are questioning his motives.
Flash doesn't play BW tournaments lightly. He's not a SC genius, he is a hard worker. Casually playing 268 games when he feels like he can with low stakes means absolutely nothing. That is just amusement for him. But entering a tournament is a completely different mental activity. Every game matters. It's not about "reputation" and it is silly to bring that up for this gamer. It is about winning. Flash does not want to commit to a tournament if he can't put in his normal amount of grinding, practice, and work.
I think Flash would be very happy if his wrists healed, he could play, and he lost to Soulkey while giving one more real fight.
Flash is still incredibly competitive in every non-casual game. You can see that quite clearly by the way he reacts to losing. He often and loudly expresses his immense frustration - which is a common behavior for the literal goat in any game or sport. No, Flash doesn't just play for fun now. He puts in a great amount of effort.
The real reason why he can't compete at the top level is that everybody else has improved so much. The competition has gotten much tougher and Flash realizes that he can't surpass them anymore. He's now "just one of the others". Still easily top five, if not top three, but certainly not the top dog anymore.
yeah I'm sure the half dozen of wrist surgeries has nothing to do with anything. Wtf??
He had those surgeries - including the associated pain - during his peak for many years.
Chronic injuries dont get worse! Also I am a five year old.
If them getting worse is why he considered dropping out of ASL, then playing a lot of games with high APM was a bad move on his part. There's no reason to baby Flash like that. He knows what he's doing, he's a well adjusted adult.
How is anyone babying flash by pointing out that, if he feels physically like maybe he shouldnt participate in a tournament, that it isnt the same thing as him cowardly dodging because hes no longer the best/is seeking to maintain his reputation? And how even could I baby someone who I will never interact with?
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any.
Its crazy the level of crass immaturity, self absorption and straight up absurdity in this thread given the average age on this site has to be over thirty.
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any.
I don’t think anyone is questioning Flash having injury issues.
I’ve got some pains myself, my right elbow has been fucked for as long as I can remember, and my wrists ain’t great. Can’t play guitar or bass like I used to volume wise, even if I’m as ergonomic and judicious as I can be.
And yeah there’s an intensity element too, but if I was regularly streaming myself for hours playing instruments and idk bailing on playing concerts, it’s not entirely an issue of physical condition.
Flash could easily play ASL, and do well. But he wants to feel as close to 100% before he does that. Nothing wrong with that at all!
But this pearl clutching is ridiculous, he’s able to pump out tons of games, maybe not at his peak level but he’s playing tons of StarCraft.
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
No one is doubting his injury (but honestly, if anyone does, it wouldn't be that much of a shock, since Flash isn't known for his honesty after recent events).
The issue is that the degree of his injury should consistently allow or prevent him to play. We don't see that.
- Did his injury prevent him from playing ASL pre-military? No. So why after 2 years of rest it prevented him?
- Has he been playing online just as much as many ASL participants, including Soulkey? Yes. So why are the other guys can still flex their wrists for ASL but not Flash?
The fact that the impact of the injury is only selective to ASL suggests that it is performance related, not just a can/can't issue.
On July 06 2025 07:06 machinus wrote: Flash has nothing to prove to anyone. It is weird that people are questioning his motives.
Flash doesn't play BW tournaments lightly. He's not a SC genius, he is a hard worker. Casually playing 268 games when he feels like he can with low stakes means absolutely nothing. That is just amusement for him. But entering a tournament is a completely different mental activity. Every game matters. It's not about "reputation" and it is silly to bring that up for this gamer. It is about winning. Flash does not want to commit to a tournament if he can't put in his normal amount of grinding, practice, and work.
I think Flash would be very happy if his wrists healed, he could play, and he lost to Soulkey while giving one more real fight.
Flash is still incredibly competitive in every non-casual game. You can see that quite clearly by the way he reacts to losing. He often and loudly expresses his immense frustration - which is a common behavior for the literal goat in any game or sport. No, Flash doesn't just play for fun now. He puts in a great amount of effort.
The real reason why he can't compete at the top level is that everybody else has improved so much. The competition has gotten much tougher and Flash realizes that he can't surpass them anymore. He's now "just one of the others". Still easily top five, if not top three, but certainly not the top dog anymore.
yeah I'm sure the half dozen of wrist surgeries has nothing to do with anything. Wtf??
He had those surgeries - including the associated pain - during his peak for many years.
Chronic injuries dont get worse! Also I am a five year old.
If them getting worse is why he considered dropping out of ASL, then playing a lot of games with high APM was a bad move on his part. There's no reason to baby Flash like that. He knows what he's doing, he's a well adjusted adult.
How is anyone babying flash by pointing out that, if he feels physically like maybe he shouldnt participate in a tournament, that it isnt the same thing as him cowardly dodging because hes no longer the best/is seeking to maintain his reputation? And how even could I baby someone who I will never interact with?
If he shouldn't participate in a tournament, then why should he play hundreds of games with high APM ahead of said tournament? His excuse doesn't make sense. Either he wants to play a tournament or he doesn't. But if he doesn't, then he shouldn't instead want to play hundreds of other games at a similar level.
The only logical conclusion is that Flash's difficulty in returning to the top spot has nothing to do with his injuries. He can't win 70-75% of games anymore (as he used to) not because his injuries are holding him back, it's because other players have gotten so much better. Logically Flash would no longer be able to outperform them.
This is not a dig at Flash, and I still respect his abilities as a player. But I also respect the competition. I've seen what they can do over the years, and their level of skill is mind-blowing. Soma (now instead SoulKey), Snow and Light represent peak modern Starcraft. They put in the hours, they show the results, and they can now even compete with peak Flash. That is incredible.
Instead of putting Flash down, instead of criticizing his abilities as a player, I choose to uplift other players. And that's something that more people should do in general. More people should acknowledge how good other players have gotten - and Flash himself should also acknowledge that (he probably has, I would assume). We have effectively half a dozen different players competing at the highest level right now - at a level similar to Flash's all-time peak.
It is fruitless trying to have a technical discussion with edgelords. They will come up with fringe examples to prove a generalisation without the technical knowledge or the intuition to make the decision just to prove themselves in your eyes. Flash falling back in his play, not playing SK, playing superceded strategies like goliath rushes - since how long has he played that in his prime? - has no bearing in this discussion, just as they don't see there were times when Jaedong put forth fantastic queen games. To them, Flash and Jaedong just play straightforward to victory and if they don't it is because they hold back. Notice how they base their judgement with overemphasis on victory, they don't even notice the fine print in the detail. You cannot have a discussion with a person who overgeneralises, he'll generalise over your point.
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any.
I don’t think anyone is questioning Flash having injury issues.
I’ve got some pains myself, my right elbow has been fucked for as long as I can remember, and my wrists ain’t great. Can’t play guitar or bass like I used to volume wise, even if I’m as ergonomic and judicious as I can be.
And yeah there’s an intensity element too, but if I was regularly streaming myself for hours playing instruments and idk bailing on playing concerts, it’s not entirely an issue of physical condition.
Flash could easily play ASL, and do well. But he wants to feel as close to 100% before he does that. Nothing wrong with that at all!
But this pearl clutching is ridiculous, he’s able to pump out tons of games, maybe not at his peak level but he’s playing tons of StarCraft.
Remind me something, do we have any pros that have successfully lived through a brief pause? Flash has had surgery, probably all his proprioception is shot. Performance takes more than what is on screen, these people rewire their brain during sleep having dreams of success. If you have pain, your body stops training. Most what people know about sports is wrong, more energy is spent during the rest period. Let's not compare players based on performance - a lot more effort takes place during their rest cycle. These people likely perform best since they are healthy. Flash has been a celebrity since when he was 13. There is a wide gap in oxygen uptake when you are young and healthy and old and frail and no, that is not the young takes more oxygen, it is the other way around. Healthy heart muscle uses less oxygen. Flash has since taken on a lot more biological age since he left whether the dismissal crowd admits to it, or not.
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any.
I don’t think anyone is questioning Flash having injury issues.
I’ve got some pains myself, my right elbow has been fucked for as long as I can remember, and my wrists ain’t great. Can’t play guitar or bass like I used to volume wise, even if I’m as ergonomic and judicious as I can be.
And yeah there’s an intensity element too, but if I was regularly streaming myself for hours playing instruments and idk bailing on playing concerts, it’s not entirely an issue of physical condition.
Flash could easily play ASL, and do well. But he wants to feel as close to 100% before he does that. Nothing wrong with that at all!
But this pearl clutching is ridiculous, he’s able to pump out tons of games, maybe not at his peak level but he’s playing tons of StarCraft.
Remind me something, do we have any pros that have successfully lived through a brief pause? Flash has had surgery, probably all his proprioception is shot. Performance takes more than what is on screen, these people rewire their brain during sleep having dreams of success. If you have pain, your body stops training. Most what people know about sports is wrong, more energy is spent during the rest period. Let's not compare players based on performance - a lot more effort takes place during their rest cycle. These people likely perform best since they are healthy. Flash has been a celebrity since when he was 13. There is a wide gap in oxygen uptake when you are young and healthy and old and frail and no, that is not the young takes more oxygen, it is the other way around. Healthy heart muscle uses less oxygen. Flash has since taken on a lot more biological age since he left whether the dismissal crowd admits to it, or not.
Flash was absent for two years. Not ten or twenty years. Two years. He aged no more than 6-7%. He's in his early 30s. That's often considered the prime of people's life, especially in sports. And during that his wrists were able to rest. The age argument makes no sense.
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any.
I don’t think anyone is questioning Flash having injury issues.
I’ve got some pains myself, my right elbow has been fucked for as long as I can remember, and my wrists ain’t great. Can’t play guitar or bass like I used to volume wise, even if I’m as ergonomic and judicious as I can be.
And yeah there’s an intensity element too, but if I was regularly streaming myself for hours playing instruments and idk bailing on playing concerts, it’s not entirely an issue of physical condition.
Flash could easily play ASL, and do well. But he wants to feel as close to 100% before he does that. Nothing wrong with that at all!
But this pearl clutching is ridiculous, he’s able to pump out tons of games, maybe not at his peak level but he’s playing tons of StarCraft.
Remind me something, do we have any pros that have successfully lived through a brief pause? Flash has had surgery, probably all his proprioception is shot. Performance takes more than what is on screen, these people rewire their brain during sleep having dreams of success. If you have pain, your body stops training. Most what people know about sports is wrong, more energy is spent during the rest period. Let's not compare players based on performance - a lot more effort takes place during their rest cycle. These people likely perform best since they are healthy. Flash has been a celebrity since when he was 13. There is a wide gap in oxygen uptake when you are young and healthy and old and frail and no, that is not the young takes more oxygen, it is the other way around. Healthy heart muscle uses less oxygen. Flash has since taken on a lot more biological age since he left whether the dismissal crowd admits to it, or not.
Flash was absent for two years. Not ten or twenty years. Two years. He aged no more than 6-7%. He's in his early 30s. That's often considered the prime of people's life, especially in sports. And during that his wrists were able to rest. The age argument makes no sense.
Shit. i wonder why he had two surgeries in this period of time. Or he is making that up too to cover that is unable to recover his skill ?
I get that since FlaSh incident with the crypto scam he is not more the golden child in Korea. Also for the people saying that FlaSh is not playing cuz he is not the favorite that is simple no true when there is a precedent of him playing this tourneys not being the best. And there is also being the precedent of him deciding to quit also being the best.
Also idk where this energy is coming from that guys are saying FlaSh is playing a lot. you can basically go to his afreeca page and see that he is one of the less active players atm. Or you guys have some secret data from ladder that i dont know about ? Cuz what literally happened when FlaSh was grinding ladder was a surgery lol.
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any.
I don’t think anyone is questioning Flash having injury issues.
I’ve got some pains myself, my right elbow has been fucked for as long as I can remember, and my wrists ain’t great. Can’t play guitar or bass like I used to volume wise, even if I’m as ergonomic and judicious as I can be.
And yeah there’s an intensity element too, but if I was regularly streaming myself for hours playing instruments and idk bailing on playing concerts, it’s not entirely an issue of physical condition.
Flash could easily play ASL, and do well. But he wants to feel as close to 100% before he does that. Nothing wrong with that at all!
But this pearl clutching is ridiculous, he’s able to pump out tons of games, maybe not at his peak level but he’s playing tons of StarCraft.
Remind me something, do we have any pros that have successfully lived through a brief pause? Flash has had surgery, probably all his proprioception is shot. Performance takes more than what is on screen, these people rewire their brain during sleep having dreams of success. If you have pain, your body stops training. Most what people know about sports is wrong, more energy is spent during the rest period. Let's not compare players based on performance - a lot more effort takes place during their rest cycle. These people likely perform best since they are healthy. Flash has been a celebrity since when he was 13. There is a wide gap in oxygen uptake when you are young and healthy and old and frail and no, that is not the young takes more oxygen, it is the other way around. Healthy heart muscle uses less oxygen. Flash has since taken on a lot more biological age since he left whether the dismissal crowd admits to it, or not.
Flash was absent for two years. Not ten or twenty years. Two years. He aged no more than 6-7%. He's in his early 30s. That's often considered the prime of people's life, especially in sports. And during that his wrists were able to rest. The age argument makes no sense.
"Makes no sense" as in you don't know what you are talking about. Name one pro who has returned after a big break. I'm talking about the fundamentals of good performance, and scarcity thereof, you are talking whether time even makes a difference. In this conjecture even JD and Bisu can return to former glory. Why not July, too? Your wrists are not regenerable tissue, you are not a lizard. The collagen that repairs is different from the original.
On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.
i am actually so angry right now :<
i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected.
Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet.
sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most.
Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any.
I don’t think anyone is questioning Flash having injury issues.
I’ve got some pains myself, my right elbow has been fucked for as long as I can remember, and my wrists ain’t great. Can’t play guitar or bass like I used to volume wise, even if I’m as ergonomic and judicious as I can be.
And yeah there’s an intensity element too, but if I was regularly streaming myself for hours playing instruments and idk bailing on playing concerts, it’s not entirely an issue of physical condition.
Flash could easily play ASL, and do well. But he wants to feel as close to 100% before he does that. Nothing wrong with that at all!
But this pearl clutching is ridiculous, he’s able to pump out tons of games, maybe not at his peak level but he’s playing tons of StarCraft.
Remind me something, do we have any pros that have successfully lived through a brief pause? Flash has had surgery, probably all his proprioception is shot. Performance takes more than what is on screen, these people rewire their brain during sleep having dreams of success. If you have pain, your body stops training. Most what people know about sports is wrong, more energy is spent during the rest period. Let's not compare players based on performance - a lot more effort takes place during their rest cycle. These people likely perform best since they are healthy. Flash has been a celebrity since when he was 13. There is a wide gap in oxygen uptake when you are young and healthy and old and frail and no, that is not the young takes more oxygen, it is the other way around. Healthy heart muscle uses less oxygen. Flash has since taken on a lot more biological age since he left whether the dismissal crowd admits to it, or not.
Flash was absent for two years. Not ten or twenty years. Two years. He aged no more than 6-7%. He's in his early 30s. That's often considered the prime of people's life, especially in sports. And during that his wrists were able to rest. The age argument makes no sense.
"Makes no sense" as in you don't know what you are talking about. Name one pro who has returned after a big break. I'm talking about the fundamentals of good performance, and scarcity thereof, you are talking whether time even makes a difference. In this conjecture even JD and Bisu can return to former glory. Why not July, too? Your wrists are not regenerable tissue, you are not a lizard. The collagen that repairs is different from the original.
Well Flash already did come from a loong break and became the best again.
I don't think it's about regenerating tissue, but getting rid of the pain which is a different thing.
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