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On July 14 2025 19:47 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2025 19:18 mtcn77 wrote:On July 14 2025 18:51 Magic Powers wrote:On July 14 2025 17:40 mtcn77 wrote:On July 14 2025 09:12 WombaT wrote:On July 14 2025 08:38 mtcn77 wrote:On July 14 2025 08:29 tankgirl wrote:On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite.  i am actually so angry right now :< i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected. Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet. sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most. Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any. I don’t think anyone is questioning Flash having injury issues. I’ve got some pains myself, my right elbow has been fucked for as long as I can remember, and my wrists ain’t great. Can’t play guitar or bass like I used to volume wise, even if I’m as ergonomic and judicious as I can be. And yeah there’s an intensity element too, but if I was regularly streaming myself for hours playing instruments and idk bailing on playing concerts, it’s not entirely an issue of physical condition. Flash could easily play ASL, and do well. But he wants to feel as close to 100% before he does that. Nothing wrong with that at all! But this pearl clutching is ridiculous, he’s able to pump out tons of games, maybe not at his peak level but he’s playing tons of StarCraft. Remind me something, do we have any pros that have successfully lived through a brief pause? Flash has had surgery, probably all his proprioception is shot. Performance takes more than what is on screen, these people rewire their brain during sleep having dreams of success. If you have pain, your body stops training. Most what people know about sports is wrong, more energy is spent during the rest period. Let's not compare players based on performance - a lot more effort takes place during their rest cycle. These people likely perform best since they are healthy. Flash has been a celebrity since when he was 13. There is a wide gap in oxygen uptake when you are young and healthy and old and frail and no, that is not the young takes more oxygen, it is the other way around. Healthy heart muscle uses less oxygen. Flash has since taken on a lot more biological age since he left whether the dismissal crowd admits to it, or not. Flash was absent for two years. Not ten or twenty years. Two years. He aged no more than 6-7%. He's in his early 30s. That's often considered the prime of people's life, especially in sports. And during that his wrists were able to rest. The age argument makes no sense. "Makes no sense" as in you don't know what you are talking about. Name one pro who has returned after a big break. I'm talking about the fundamentals of good performance, and scarcity thereof, you are talking whether time even makes a difference. In this conjecture even JD and Bisu can return to former glory. Why not July, too? Your wrists are not regenerable tissue, you are not a lizard. The collagen that repairs is different from the original. Well Flash already did come from a loong break and became the best again. I don't think it's about regenerating tissue, but getting rid of the pain which is a different thing.
Yeah, as if the body doesn't pump you full of opioids on a daily basis just to perform the routine. What difference does an injury make. Good point. Let's chop off his hand and replace it with luke skywalker upgrades already.
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On July 14 2025 07:56 mtcn77 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2025 19:29 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:On July 11 2025 05:57 mtcn77 wrote:On July 11 2025 01:03 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:On July 10 2025 22:10 Ideas wrote:
It seems like some players have had far more wrist injuries than others. Does pretty much every pro deal with wrist problems at some point? For example Light has been playing for just as long as flash/JD and I've never read about him having wrist problems. the physical set up of mouse, keyboard, chair to desk height, and stretching the wrist flexor muscles all affect the chances of devloping wrist issues. proper set-up and injury prevention routines can completely prevent wrist issues. So no, not all pros have wrist issues. There are multiple issues. Carpal tunnel is triggered by those you describe above. Ulnar tunnel, from what I read, is very strictly related to vibration. I think Flash was was wearing an elbow brace. I'm very late to the debate, if anybody would verify if it was indeed the elbow he got surgery from: #1. its not a pathology that develops because of vibration. It develops under the same conditions as carpal tunnel syndrome. consistent and repetitive pressure on the nerve causing compression. this can be caused by multiple things, such as resting the hand exactly on the ulnar tunnel, a cyst or tumor growing exactly there, tightness in the muscles/soft tissue caused by overuse of the muscles in small tiny movements, ones made when holding a mouse for example, or having enlarges blood vessels which compresses the ulnar tunnel. Another less common cause is a genetic growth deviation that makes the tunnel more narrow than it should have been, which increases the risk of ulnar tunnel pathology by a lot. I for example have mid carpal instability syndrome, where some ligaments in my wirst are, since birth, deformed or lax and are unable to keep my mid carpal bones rigidly in place, resulting in them being able to slightlt move around my in my wrist. this puts me at an increased probability of developing carpal or ulnar tunnel pathologies. To prevent this I take very good care of my wrists. See, that is the difference between us, too. I thought I knew that much, still I read a review and found out it is due to vibration. PS: you are being like Flash, wrong and repetitive. Try your luck at explaining it, I know enough not to dissert any opinion of my own. It's an entirely different specialty. PS2: your reply has this vague "AI slop" vibe, I cannot put my finger on. PS3: oh, you made a self reference at the end. I hope your switches don't vibrate a lot. Loud switches might have a propensity to more wrist vibration, although you may sandbox with your health for all I care.
I bachelored physical rehabilitation. its kind of my field of expertise. I get what you mean by vibration but its an incorrect word to describe it.
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On July 14 2025 19:18 mtcn77 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2025 18:51 Magic Powers wrote:On July 14 2025 17:40 mtcn77 wrote:On July 14 2025 09:12 WombaT wrote:On July 14 2025 08:38 mtcn77 wrote:On July 14 2025 08:29 tankgirl wrote:On July 13 2025 21:25 TMNT wrote:Flash served his military service - which in fact was only civil service - since mid 2021, and finished in early 2023, but only returned to BW in early 2025. He could have had his "surgery(ies?)" at any time during that 4 years. But nope, injuries didn't prevent him from playing before military, from grinding the ladder on multiple occasions, or from playing just as many recorded online games as Soulkey. Only when it comes to ASL then he can't play because of injuries.
Frankly what Flash is saying is essentially just the same thing with what I'm saying, just worded in a positive way: he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he can't be at his 100% ~ he doesn't want to compete in ASL because he doesn't like not being the clear favorite. i am actually so angry right now :< i had a surgery 5 years ago and still have pain and there is not a day where i am not affected. Im outta here. So long, TL. It was fun. But this is the end. This is the end of the internet. sir, i hope you give birth to a hedgehog from whatever orifice you value most. Don't worry about him. I have muscle damage due to too much eccentric muscle exercise, but these know it alls would make you question yourself. Don't look for recognition in the uninitiated crowd. You won't find any. I don’t think anyone is questioning Flash having injury issues. I’ve got some pains myself, my right elbow has been fucked for as long as I can remember, and my wrists ain’t great. Can’t play guitar or bass like I used to volume wise, even if I’m as ergonomic and judicious as I can be. And yeah there’s an intensity element too, but if I was regularly streaming myself for hours playing instruments and idk bailing on playing concerts, it’s not entirely an issue of physical condition. Flash could easily play ASL, and do well. But he wants to feel as close to 100% before he does that. Nothing wrong with that at all! But this pearl clutching is ridiculous, he’s able to pump out tons of games, maybe not at his peak level but he’s playing tons of StarCraft. Remind me something, do we have any pros that have successfully lived through a brief pause? Flash has had surgery, probably all his proprioception is shot. Performance takes more than what is on screen, these people rewire their brain during sleep having dreams of success. If you have pain, your body stops training. Most what people know about sports is wrong, more energy is spent during the rest period. Let's not compare players based on performance - a lot more effort takes place during their rest cycle. These people likely perform best since they are healthy. Flash has been a celebrity since when he was 13. There is a wide gap in oxygen uptake when you are young and healthy and old and frail and no, that is not the young takes more oxygen, it is the other way around. Healthy heart muscle uses less oxygen. Flash has since taken on a lot more biological age since he left whether the dismissal crowd admits to it, or not. Flash was absent for two years. Not ten or twenty years. Two years. He aged no more than 6-7%. He's in his early 30s. That's often considered the prime of people's life, especially in sports. And during that his wrists were able to rest. The age argument makes no sense. "Makes no sense" as in you don't know what you are talking about. Name one pro who has returned after a big break. I'm talking about the fundamentals of good performance, and scarcity thereof, you are talking whether time even makes a difference. In this conjecture even JD and Bisu can return to former glory. Why not July, too? Your wrists are not regenerable tissue, you are not a lizard. The collagen that repairs is different from the original.
Just one? Bisu. He got his old winrate back a few months after his return. I followed the winrates of all the players back then. Took him about four months iirc.
I have complete sympathy for Flash. If he says he has enough of the pain, it's been years, he wants to chill more, I'll say yeah that's reasonable. Good, even. 100% support from me.
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On July 14 2025 16:51 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2025 09:06 Ze'ev wrote:On July 14 2025 05:15 Magic Powers wrote:On July 14 2025 04:17 Ze'ev wrote:On July 13 2025 16:48 Magic Powers wrote:On July 13 2025 07:06 Ze'ev wrote:On July 06 2025 17:37 Magic Powers wrote:On July 06 2025 07:06 machinus wrote:
Flash has nothing to prove to anyone. It is weird that people are questioning his motives.
Flash doesn't play BW tournaments lightly. He's not a SC genius, he is a hard worker. Casually playing 268 games when he feels like he can with low stakes means absolutely nothing. That is just amusement for him. But entering a tournament is a completely different mental activity. Every game matters. It's not about "reputation" and it is silly to bring that up for this gamer. It is about winning. Flash does not want to commit to a tournament if he can't put in his normal amount of grinding, practice, and work.
I think Flash would be very happy if his wrists healed, he could play, and he lost to Soulkey while giving one more real fight. Flash is still incredibly competitive in every non-casual game. You can see that quite clearly by the way he reacts to losing. He often and loudly expresses his immense frustration - which is a common behavior for the literal goat in any game or sport. No, Flash doesn't just play for fun now. He puts in a great amount of effort. The real reason why he can't compete at the top level is that everybody else has improved so much. The competition has gotten much tougher and Flash realizes that he can't surpass them anymore. He's now "just one of the others". Still easily top five, if not top three, but certainly not the top dog anymore. yeah I'm sure the half dozen of wrist surgeries has nothing to do with anything. Wtf?? He had those surgeries - including the associated pain - during his peak for many years. Chronic injuries dont get worse! Also I am a five year old. If them getting worse is why he considered dropping out of ASL, then playing a lot of games with high APM was a bad move on his part. There's no reason to baby Flash like that. He knows what he's doing, he's a well adjusted adult. How is anyone babying flash by pointing out that, if he feels physically like maybe he shouldnt participate in a tournament, that it isnt the same thing as him cowardly dodging because hes no longer the best/is seeking to maintain his reputation? And how even could I baby someone who I will never interact with? If he shouldn't participate in a tournament, then why should he play hundreds of games with high APM ahead of said tournament? His excuse doesn't make sense. Either he wants to play a tournament or he doesn't. But if he doesn't, then he shouldn't instead want to play hundreds of other games at a similar level. The only logical conclusion is that Flash's difficulty in returning to the top spot has nothing to do with his injuries. He can't win 70-75% of games anymore (as he used to) not because his injuries are holding him back, it's because other players have gotten so much better. Logically Flash would no longer be able to outperform them. This is not a dig at Flash, and I still respect his abilities as a player. But I also respect the competition. I've seen what they can do over the years, and their level of skill is mind-blowing. Soma (now instead SoulKey), Snow and Light represent peak modern Starcraft. They put in the hours, they show the results, and they can now even compete with peak Flash. That is incredible. Instead of putting Flash down, instead of criticizing his abilities as a player, I choose to uplift other players. And that's something that more people should do in general. More people should acknowledge how good other players have gotten - and Flash himself should also acknowledge that (he probably has, I would assume). We have effectively half a dozen different players competing at the highest level right now - at a level similar to Flash's all-time peak.
"If he shouldn't participate in a tournament, then why should he play hundreds of games with high APM ahead of said tournament?" I doubt he should, but people are irrational and he can make his own choices.
"His excuse doesn't make sense. Either he wants to play a tournament or he doesn't. But if he doesn't, then he shouldn't instead want to play hundreds of other games at a similar level." playing a ladder match is not the same thing as preparing for a tournament. He probably shouldnt be playing broodwar at all, certainly not a tons of matches -- him being inconsistent and making short sighted decisions is not proof that an injury which has required a dozen surgeries across years isnt causing him pain, undermining his ability to perform, and justified his rationale in taking a step back from competitive play. Is this seriously the first time in your life you've come across human inconsistency? Is this seriously the first time in your life you've come across debilitating injuries that get worse over time? Or people who have injuries that dont properly follow the advice of their doctor?
"The only logical conclusion is that Flash's difficulty in returning to the top spot has nothing to do with his injuries. He can't win 70-75% of games anymore (as he used to) not because his injuries are holding him back, it's because other players have gotten so much better. Logically Flash would no longer be able to outperform them.
This is not a dig at Flash, and I still respect his abilities as a player. But I also respect the competition. I've seen what they can do over the years, and their level of skill is mind-blowing. Soma (now instead SoulKey), Snow and Light represent peak modern Starcraft. They put in the hours, they show the results, and they can now even compete with peak Flash. That is incredible.
Instead of putting Flash down, instead of criticizing his abilities as a player, I choose to uplift other players. And that's something that more people should do in general. More people should acknowledge how good other players have gotten - and Flash himself should also acknowledge that (he probably has, I would assume). We have effectively half a dozen different players competing at the highest level right now - at a level similar to Flash's all-time peak" this is in no way the rational conclusion or one that doesnt insult Flash. I'm not insulting him im just calling him a prideful liar whos relying on an excuse, all those surgeries are irrelevant! Hes seriously injured for years but still plays the game? aha, therefore it must not impact him!!! Are you still in highschool? honest question.
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hopefully he flipflops again so I can make this thread title even longer 
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Faster than Action's retirement
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On July 14 2025 19:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Also idk where this energy is coming from that guys are saying FlaSh is playing a lot. you can basically go to his afreeca page and see that he is one of the less active players atm. Or you guys have some secret data from ladder that i dont know about ? Cuz what literally happened when FlaSh was grinding ladder was a surgery lol. https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/byflash/vods
Did every single word in my previous posts just go over your head?
Since Flash officially came back (October 2024), he has 478 games recorded on eloboard.
In the same time frame, Light has 415, Soulkey 374. Maybe they should give up ASL too.
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On July 15 2025 06:22 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2025 19:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Also idk where this energy is coming from that guys are saying FlaSh is playing a lot. you can basically go to his afreeca page and see that he is one of the less active players atm. Or you guys have some secret data from ladder that i dont know about ? Cuz what literally happened when FlaSh was grinding ladder was a surgery lol. https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/byflash/vods Did every single word in my previous posts just go over your head? Since Flash officially came back (October 2024), he has 478 games recorded on eloboard. In the same time frame, Light has 415, Soulkey 374. Maybe they should give up ASL too.
Mind to post the stats post Surgery ?
Also Soulkey stats are not surprising at all. Usually he spend weeks playing league and random content after bad streaks in proleague.I legit have seen him playing league just a week before his semifinal match lol. He is for sure not the type of guy that need a big amount of games to be in shape.
is actually so interesting how tilted can SK get online compared to offline lol. I legit have seen him losing a bo3 at the start of the stream and just call it ggs and switch to League. 
Btw man u taking so Personal FlaSh no playing this ASL holyshit LOL.
BRo is at home. I WANNA SEE FLASH LOSING AHHHHHH . WHY HE IS NOT PLAYING AHHHHH. YOUR WRIST IS FINE U PLAYING 500 GAMES MF.
Yo chill man xD. if FlaSh keep playing proleagues he will get shit on by Mini Snow Best and company. At the end of the day progamers value proleague the most these days. Thats where most of their income come from. And girl universities.
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On July 15 2025 06:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2025 06:22 TMNT wrote:On July 14 2025 19:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Also idk where this energy is coming from that guys are saying FlaSh is playing a lot. you can basically go to his afreeca page and see that he is one of the less active players atm. Or you guys have some secret data from ladder that i dont know about ? Cuz what literally happened when FlaSh was grinding ladder was a surgery lol. https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/byflash/vods Did every single word in my previous posts just go over your head? Since Flash officially came back (October 2024), he has 478 games recorded on eloboard. In the same time frame, Light has 415, Soulkey 374. Maybe they should give up ASL too. Mind to post the stats post Surgery ? Also Soulkey stats are not surprising at all. Usually he spend weeks playing league and random content after bad streaks in proleague.I legit have seen him playing league just a week before his semifinal match lol. He is for sure not the type of guy that need a big amount of games to be in shape. is actually so interesting how tilted can SK get online compared to offline lol. I legit have seen him losing a bo3 at the start of the stream and just call it ggs and switch to League. Btw man u taking so Personal FlaSh no playing this ASL holyshit LOL. BRo is at home. I WANNA SEE FLASH LOSING AHHHHHH . WHY HE IS NOT PLAYING AHHHHH. YOUR WRIST IS FINE U PLAYING 500 GAMES MF. Yo chill man xD. if FlaSh keep playing proleagues he will get shit on by Mini Snow Best and company. At the end of the day progamers value proleague the most these days. Thats where most of their income come from. And girl universities.
Stop with the ad hominems.
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On July 15 2025 06:44 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2025 06:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On July 15 2025 06:22 TMNT wrote:On July 14 2025 19:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Also idk where this energy is coming from that guys are saying FlaSh is playing a lot. you can basically go to his afreeca page and see that he is one of the less active players atm. Or you guys have some secret data from ladder that i dont know about ? Cuz what literally happened when FlaSh was grinding ladder was a surgery lol. https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/byflash/vods Did every single word in my previous posts just go over your head? Since Flash officially came back (October 2024), he has 478 games recorded on eloboard. In the same time frame, Light has 415, Soulkey 374. Maybe they should give up ASL too. Mind to post the stats post Surgery ? Also Soulkey stats are not surprising at all. Usually he spend weeks playing league and random content after bad streaks in proleague.I legit have seen him playing league just a week before his semifinal match lol. He is for sure not the type of guy that need a big amount of games to be in shape. is actually so interesting how tilted can SK get online compared to offline lol. I legit have seen him losing a bo3 at the start of the stream and just call it ggs and switch to League. Btw man u taking so Personal FlaSh no playing this ASL holyshit LOL. BRo is at home. I WANNA SEE FLASH LOSING AHHHHHH . WHY HE IS NOT PLAYING AHHHHH. YOUR WRIST IS FINE U PLAYING 500 GAMES MF. Yo chill man xD. if FlaSh keep playing proleagues he will get shit on by Mini Snow Best and company. At the end of the day progamers value proleague the most these days. Thats where most of their income come from. And girl universities. Stop with the ad hominems. How can he stop something he never did?
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On July 15 2025 06:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Mind to post the stats post Surgery ?
Do you know when exactly did he have his surgery though?
If we do guesswork, then looking at his playing activity, he had a major break from May 07 to June 21 this year. So, by filtering the period from June 21 to now, Flash has 55 games recorded on eloboard.
In the same period, the other players have this number of games: Snow 62, Light 52, Soulkey 43. In other words, post-surgery Flash (if we assume he had surgery during that May-June period) has as many online games as the current leaders of the 3 races.
Also Flash had been playing nonstop without any major break from October 2024 to May 2025, so what "surgery" prevented him from playing in ASL19?
Let me frame it in another way: if the argument for Flash not playing in ASL is "His injury/surgery does not let him", then why the same injury/surgery still allows him to have as much, if not more, online activities as Light and Soulkey, not to mention him spam clicking like a mad man while just observing games?
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That last bit will surely trigger Eon 
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On July 15 2025 18:32 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2025 06:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Mind to post the stats post Surgery ?
Do you know when exactly did he have his surgery though? If we do guesswork, then looking at his playing activity, he had a major break from May 07 to June 21 this year. So, by filtering the period from June 21 to now, Flash has 55 games recorded on eloboard. In the same period, the other players have this number of games: Snow 62, Light 52, Soulkey 43. In other words, post-surgery Flash (if we assume he had surgery during that May-June period) has as many online games as the current leaders of the 3 races. Also Flash had been playing nonstop without any major break from October 2024 to May 2025, so what "surgery" prevented him from playing in ASL19? Let me frame it in another way: if the argument for Flash not playing in ASL is "His injury/surgery does not let him", then why the same injury/surgery still allows him to have as much, if not more, online activities as Light and Soulkey, not to mention him spam clicking like a mad man while just observing games?
Apparently FlaSh surgery happened on may 21
https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/byflash/post/160766467?page=2
So you are saying FlaSh has played 55 games i imagine official games on proleague ? Or does that count sponsored games etc ? For someone that is behind in skill compared to others seems low no ? Im pretty sure Soma in the short period of time he is back already reached that number. Anyway my point was that if he is unable to practise daily cuz his hand is hurting atm i totally see why he is skiping this ASL. And like usual this conversation already goes in circles .Your first post and tbf others too was that FlaSh is scared to play ASL cuz he will lose to Snow/Mini/ etc. I dont agree that the greatest Starcraft player in History. Someone that has shit on those players countless times is afraid to play them LOL.From past interviews etc FlaSh always been the kind of guy that wanted to play the best players. If this guy is having 2 hand surgeries in less than 2 years. I will rather believe him that he has a real issue.
And no Peano no one is fcking destroying his hand by doing what you are saying. Is really crazy that you think that lol.
If atleast you came with a shit like FlaSh dpi is really low and his mouse is maybe not a good fit for his hand cuz the fingers are putting to much pressure on it i would have respected that more. If flash is doing that shit while obsing that simple means those movements are not giving him pain.
Or a better take. Why this guy instead of forcing himself to play starcraft doesnt take 2-3 months to recovery and heal that shit.
This is a post from FlaSh few weeks after his surgery.
https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/byflash/post/162648997?page=2
Basically saying he already started to play but his hand hurt a lot..
Im not a doctor and idk what surgery he got or what the doctor recommended to him honestly. But him playing again and having pain is not a good look.
All good tho. This MF dodging ASL cuz he is scared. Word.
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he doesnt want to play, respect his decision, why u question the best motherfuckin decision making progamer in history?
mofuckers that dont even play the game, trying to explain how it is possible to play while suffering pain... shits hilarious
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YEAH FUCKING GIMME A BEAT AND I SPIT BARS LIKE THAT YALL, NOT EVEN TRYING...
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So you are saying FlaSh has played 55 games i imagine official games on proleague ? Or does that count sponsored games etc ?
They are all online games of any kind, not just proleague.
Also you kinda have to respond to my points, i.e. making counter-arguments, instead of rambling about irrelevant details. No one is denying his injury. The questions are:
- Flash had been playing nonstop without any major break from October 2024 to May 2025, so what "surgery" prevented him from playing in ASL19?
- If the argument for Flash not playing in ASL is "His injury/surgery does not let him", then why the same injury/surgery still allows him to have as much, if not more, online activities as Light and Soulkey?
Note that my point comes from a logical point of view: if you can play online just as much as the ASL champion and semi-finalist do in a long period of time, then there is no physical barriers that can prevent you from playing in ASL.
It doesn't come from a fanboy point of view: my goat is the best, he can do no wrong, we should trust everything he says no matter how the evidences kinda contradict it. Also this line of thinking was proven to be false so many times (for example during the coin scandal).
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if he had no injury/surgery he would have played 1000 games instead of 55 within the same period of time! Heresy, comparing Flash to the likes of Light and Soulkey.
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From 21 may to 15 july dont gonna lie to you those numbers seem so low. I swear to god i do 55 in 3 days (when i was active) LOL. Everyone took holydays on june or wut ?
I dont know the reason for FlaSh not playing the last ASL. Did he post anything ? Could be that the surgery he had before didnt do anything and he decided to take this new surgery ?
No gonna lie 55 games in 1 month is the range of games im expecting from someone like Rain. That numbers of games sound reasonable for Rain playing in ASL and doing well. But someone like Effort/Last/Rush/Light/Hero is pretty low.
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On July 15 2025 18:32 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2025 06:28 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Mind to post the stats post Surgery ?
Let me frame it in another way: if the argument for Flash not playing in ASL is "His injury/surgery does not let him", then why the same injury/surgery still allows him to have as much, if not more, online activities as Light and Soulkey, not to mention him spam clicking like a mad man while just observing games?
If we choose to trust Flash's words, from what I understood, in order to perform Flash needs to grind games. Meaning that during an ASL run, it's most likely that he will play much more than what he is playing atm. And that volume of practice triggers his pain's injury. The Flash's ego debate is a bit weird because he is already demolishing all zergs pretty easy let's be honest.
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I don't think people understand the cause of injury. Yes, he can practice 500apm and not injure his wrist. The cause of injury is not gross motor control, it is fine motor control that causes him to lock his wrist in place. Also, doing it for a season, not just a game he was observing.
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On July 15 2025 21:33 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
From 21 may to 15 july dont gonna lie to you those numbers seem so low. I swear to god i do 55 in 3 days (when i was active) LOL. Everyone took holydays on june or wut ?
I dont know the reason for FlaSh not playing the last ASL. Did he post anything ? Could be that the surgery he had before didnt do anything and he decided to take this new surgery ?
No gonna lie 55 games in 1 month is the range of games im expecting from someone like Rain. That numbers of games sound reasonable for Rain playing in ASL and doing well. But someone like Effort/Last/Rush/Light/Hero is pretty low.
It's 21 June, not May. Maybe if you can read my posts properly or double check yourself on eloboard.com, we don't have to waste time correcting facts like this.
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